Tickleing, tie them up and stick em in a corner,clean the kitchen floor naked on there hands and knees (oh this isnt punishment it's fun)humiliation, just get creativve.

Is the punishment needed or wanted?

Souds easy but in fact it is complex problem. Punishment can be physical or mental. If mental then we should rather speak about humiliation, degrading, ashaming and other actions that makes sub frustrated and resunts in mental discomfort. It can be much more severe punishment than pain if used by skilled Dom. Can be also dradated by use in private, in public or in front of somebody known. Physical punishment is usually pain but not only. Also forcing to do things that sub doesn't like or even hate is kind of punishment. Other forms of physical punishment is for instance bondage - taking away freedom of movements - at all or partially. Also taking away some senses for instance blindfolding. Tease and deny could be also severe punishment if it goes together with chastity device. On the other hand forced orgasm hoesn't hurt but can be punishment as well - depending if it is not to big reward at the same time ;-)
At the end of day everything can be either reward or punishment if you can only to train your sub to it. It is much easier if not totally contra to sub natural behaviours and preferrences.

There are really two approaches to "punishment" in scene, imo.

The first is really just as an excuse for play. "You're a bad girl - go to my room" sorts of silliness. That's fine, of course, but the play involves doesn't have to really involve anything in particular. (Bring out the comfy pillows!) Or, "I'm going to punish you so hard you'll beg me to let you stop coming!"

The second approach is when we're talking about actual behavior modification - a genuine attempt to change and/or mold someone else's behavior. And that's a different issue. Negative reinforcement does work, imo, but it works better in nonconsensual situations as it has a tendency to create resentment. Force can override that resentment in practice, though.

In consensual contexts, negative reinforcement can often be thought of as a sort of penance - that is, a price tag to pay for certain behaviors. If an extra cigarette one day costs you two extra blow jobs next week, then sometimes the price will be worth it. This approach might be amusing at times, but doesn't really support actual modification of behavior.

Consensual negative reinforcement is extremely tricky. Basically, there's no way to be sure that it remains negative reinforcement because even negative attention is still attention. This means that no matter what structure you set up, the negative reinforcement can become simple attention and that attention can become a reason for acting out which then encourages the acting out rather than discouraging it. Note that this is a feature which is, imo, inherent in consensual punishment scenarios.

The only "punishment" that works universally is to withdraw attention. You can level with the person, but to make it work you have to be willing to end "it" for some definition of "it". "I'm noticing that you aren't following my directions. I need you to do that and to do so willingly or..." and then either "...or we can't play this way" or "...or I'm not willing to see you" or whatever is true for you.

Sometimes time apart will help the other person sort their priorities. And sometimes it will simply presage the end of a particular play relationship. But if the play relationship you want is one which involves obedience, then losing a relationship which lacks that feature is perhaps a benefit at that point.

Sometimes disobedience is an intentional bid to wrestle for control. But imo, it's ill placed. Wrestling for control is fine, within a well defined context. But outside that context, if your partner isn't willing to cede control, to voluntarily submit, then it isn't really a d/s relationship. (It might be something else equally valid, of course, but it probably isn't a "d/s" relationship.) If your partner really wants to have that sort of wrestling match, that's fine, just set up a context for it with whatever rules you think are appropriate. And level with the person about keeping within the rules.

A variation of the kneeling for 5 minutes etc... Make him hold a spoon to the wall with his nose while kneeling. Another top was telling me that when he would punish his slave he would always do it in the exact same spot every time. Then he went on to say that after a while of this she would start crying just going to the spot. It's that whole Pavlov thing.

Hi all. I have been lurking a little while and haven't introduced myself. I am chrissy and a Daddy's little girl. Gosh I HATE when Daddy ignores me. That is truly the worst punishment. Sleeping alone or even next to him but not allowed to touch.
When punishment doesn't need to be so severe he could ask me to write a paper, clean/ do chores etc.

Try physical discomfort honey, not pain. Make him wear a girdle, humiliate him, order him to wear rubber or plastic pants under his work clothes. There are many things you can do to a man other than to whip him to bring him to compliance. Has he been peed on yet? force him to clean your house, bath, and for a reward pamper you!

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