hmmm....I would say since I started bottoming in the last three years, my list of "nevers" has dropped considerably. And I can't think of any that I have tried since then I haven't enjoyed, some more than others granted. None were what I expected them to be and all have helped me grow both as a bottom and a top.

I was never so naive as to say "never".

I didn't put too many limitations. Non-consent and people/things that can't consent was a big one. Remaining monogamous was a big one. Um, no poop. No changes to my appearance. Things like that.

Of the things I thought I'd *never* do and have done or considered would be playing in public and non-monogamy. I've played in public and I'd have no complaints with my spouse topping someone else. The whole DNA transfer restriction still applies. But a year ago, the thought of playing (or rather, being nekkid) in public or the idea of my husband topping someone else would have horrified me. The other limits still apply and always will.

Keeping in mind, I'm a big 'ol prude. A kinky prude... does that make me the 8th wonder of the world?

Among others, these were some of my hard limits many years ago. This, of course was before I became a blood lusting, needle jabbing, Sadist myself. When I said no sadists it was in response to an attack that I had been a victim of. How I defined sadist, at that time was someone that only played for their own pleasure regardless of whether or not I consented or enjoyed what was happening. When I thought of needles, I immediately thought of my dentist and could not for the life of me, see how that could be exciting or erotic, so that was a no. Blood stuff ..well...that was just not going to happen...(diseases and *see needles)

Since then I have changed my mind about my definition of Sadist. The person that attacked me was an asshole and an abuser and yes maybe a sadist in the strictest ickiest sense of the word. Nowadays, I enjoy being and playing with, certain types of Sadists and they, as am I, all people that only play only when consent is given and care a great deal for their partners and plays for the mutual benefit of both people.

I have come to love needles both giving and receiving and blood play. I find that piercing through someones flesh and seeing blood as both a huge turn on and lovely liquid evidence of the vulnerability of the human body before me. The biggest thing with these activities is that if done safely (or as safely as possible) and being aware of the dangers of certain types of edge play can give one the comfort to enjoy these activities. Remember, that I started alone and didn't know many folks so thinking of letting a stranger do these sort of things to me was just too risky.

As I got to know others in the community I got chances to try things with folks I had come to know and through this trust and knowledge that I could enjoy some of those things and be open to others.

I will say that nothing...not one damned thing...ever felt the way I thought it would and today I am open to almost anything, as I have tried most of them, but am still incredibly thoughtful about whom I bottom to.

thank you all - some notable quotes!!! I look forward to changing my limits every six weeks and the inevitable blood lust that comes after that...

So just to feed the flames a little bit...

What are your "I'll never do ____" that you had at the beginning that you still have today?

Being new I have a few safe to say *never* items. Necrophilia for one, scat, TV/TG, kids...

Needles (as in play piercing) and electricity used to be hard limits for me, then I ended up letting myself get talked into both (in a safe environment, with people I trust) in the same night! And I love them both now, especially needles. Caning has also been a hard limit for me for awhile, due to a bad experience the first time I tried it, but I've got a trusted, experienced friend who's offered to show me how it can be better, and I'm strongly considering it...

Oh, and there's also topping. :) I just knew I'd never, ever be interested in topping someone. Hah! I'm still mostly a bottom, but I love a chance to top every now and again.

In the realm of things I thought I'd never try, tried, and then didn't like, we've got metal-tipped floggers. It's just the wrong kind of pain for me.

I'm not likely to ever be permanently marked with someone's name, and certainly not with "property of" or for that matter have such things marked onto another. Happy to leave permanent marks and my bite mark is scalpeled into someone, but that is somehow different for me.

At the top of my head, I'd probably have to say I'm sorta curious about caning after reading a few comments about it, and perhaps I'll become my neutral list or low priority list.

First answer that came to my mind was - sure there are some limitations. I could name it but there's no reason to - everyone has different. But when I look at my past, after some grace period necessary for all beginners, I see constant series of testing and sometimes braking my limitations. If there is a relationship, trust, obedience, care, serving attatude and perhaps even love you become more open to certain things that are on the "never do" list. Still there are some things I perceive as disgusting or I would never wanted to do this but as BDSM relation evolves sub may even feel aroused by Master or Mistress order that exceeds limitations. It creates a challenge - a chance to prove devotion and total obedience over his/her own will. It is also chance to be rewarded when limit will be successfully broken.

hmm....I think that there has only been one on my list of "never"s that I have since tried. I still dont care for it.