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moulding

Mandu — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:18:40 GMT

Hello,

Does anybody ahve any concrete advice about what to do with black moulding forming on the inside walls of the Ney?

Best,

m.

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Ney with a key (and ney book in English)

ZahiraDrum42 — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:22:59 GMT

I have this book by Mahmoud Effat. By the way guys..this is one of the few ney books out there in English.

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=9qi_UvxctPUC&dq=mahmoud+effat&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=L55UBdqcv8&sig=klwaPQThV8QAnGa-x203MmXripo

In it he mentions there are neys specially made with a couple extra keys on them..like a clarinet..that help you play B and E natural (on the D ney), but that they can't play the quarter tones. I've never seen a ney like this...has anyone else? Know where to find one? I'm curious. (I don't want to replace my regular neys..just want to try this one).

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Ney teachers/players in Vancouver, Canada

Thu, 22 May 2008 18:19:30 GMT

Hi all... I recently purchased a Turkish ney and am looking for some instruction here in Vancouver, Canada. Does anyone here know of someone in my area who could guide me? Thanks in advance, -J

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breath

michael — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:39:53 GMT

I would like to know if when you are playing the Ney if you keep your belly full of air an slowly releasing it,
but keeping the pressure the same. does this make since

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looking for a ney or clarinet player !

gorkem — Thu, 15 May 2008 23:33:15 GMT

We have a paid gig (Turkish Festival) for two days in Monterey, CA. We need a ney or clarinet player who knows some Turkish music.

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amateur ney making

Munlik — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:52:53 GMT

Are there any descriptions of the steps by which professional ney makers make a ney?

I found a perfect segment of donax cane in a friends yard by the beach. Nice and round section,
nodes in perfect spacing for a docca, maybe a little green. I want to get this one just right.
What I do:
I usually mark the holes end end cuts from my chart. Cut the length 5 mm longer, burn holes,
than hollow the nodes, finally pierce the top node. Than play, and trim the ends.
But what do the experts do?

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What kind of oil...?

ZahiraDrum42 — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:04:36 GMT

When you oil your neys..what kind of oil do you use?
I used to have some almond oil but now can't seem to find any. I heard olive oil was bad for some reason. I've got a bottle of roasted sesame I'm thinking of using, but I'm leery. Any suggestions?

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Ney cases

ZahiraDrum42 — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:11:49 GMT

Not sure if I asked this yet but...what is everyone using for ney cases out there? I would love to get one of the little suitcase style ones, where the neys lay flat and have little bits in there to keep them seperated. I don't know where to get one without buying neys too however.

Right now I'm using a blueprint tube thing. Its a long plastic tube with a strap from one end to the other, and I can sling it over my shoulder cross wise. It works pretty well. I poked holes in it so they can breathe a bit. Its not completely non crushable, but its pretty resistant.
The case expands to different lengths, so I taped it at the right length.

Pros: Cheap, easy to obtain, very portable and light, fairly protective, has a shoulder strap
Cons: Needs to be taped to the right length or it keeps expanding annoyingly. If the cap unscrews why you are carrying it..the case falls off and the neys fall out..this is no fun. You can't just set the neys in it keeping them easily accessible while still somewhat protected, you have to draw them out each time.

Anyone have any other home made case? I've heard of pool cue cases being used, fishing rod cases, and I was eyeing a poke chip case the other day, wondering if it was long enough.

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Fake Egyptian "Ney"

Marvin — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:30:33 GMT

This may be heresy, but I've come across a website for Eric the Flute Maker which has a transverse blown "Egyptian Flute." The instrument also apparently has 4 finger holes in front and one in back. Eric makes the point that end-blown flutes are a heck of a lot more difficult for western lips and his audio samples sound pretty good to my inexperienced ears. I would assume that a transverse flute would be more limited pitch adjustment for quarter and microtones and I'm not sure how far you can get with 5 finger holes. I'm not adverse to compromising authenticity but don't want an exotic-sounding toy either. Anybody out there have experience with these?

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Do you play Ney from writtem music?

Greg — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:52 GMT

Hi All
I thought it might be interesting to see if people on this group can read music and if they play the Ney from written music.I have never learnt to read music and it is something that I am finding increasingly annoying.
I find it very frustrating that there is so much written music for the Turkish Ney out there that I can't use.

Greg

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im new here - and in the southern hemisphere

Mandu — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:12:16 GMT

Hello, I just joined and wanted to greet all here. I have played the Ney for almost a year now and even if I am very far away from feeling comfortable with how I playt I am undoubtedly mesmerised by it. i am writing from Santiago (Chile), my home city, adding up to the critical mass in the southern hemisphere. Peace to all. m.

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ney players

michael — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:37:00 GMT

anyone in the area of Georgia that plays the ney?
Athens ATLANTA.......THANKS

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Greetings to all... I am a new Tribe member

David — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:17:42 GMT

Ahlan,

My name is David, I live in Seattle, WA. I am a professional nay & mizmar player with the House of Tarab Arabic Music Ensemble.
See our website: houseoftarab.com, or myspace.com/davidfmcgrath. We have one CD out & two on the way (release date May 17th).

I just joined tribe tonight (after my bandmates and students have been telling me about it for months). I have not set up my homepage yet, but hope to soon.

Playing the nay can be a lonely existence.
Here in Seattle, there are several oud players, a couple of kanun players, a few violinists, lots and lots of drummers, but nay players are hard to come by. I know of a few Persian nay players, one Turkish Nezen, but no other Arab Nayati (unless they only play at home).
I have been playing for almost 10 years, mostly learning on my own, with occasional opportunities to study with nay teachers traveling through town, or with Scott Marcus UCSB, or Omar Faruk Tekbilek in Mendecino. My studies of maqam are with singers, or other instrumentalists.
Now that I am teaching, and making quality nays for students, I wanted to start networking and getting to know others who are in love with this instrument. I did not grow up in the Middle East so anything I can learn or share is always incredibly valuable.

Looking forward to getting to know all of you...

David

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Really cool video

ZahiraDrum42 — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:38:07 GMT

Especially the beginning..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImXKxfl5jZg

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play along

Antonio — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:34:52 GMT

I found that some of the songs in www.neyzen.com have been videotaped and uploaded on youtube.

hope this can be of help

Exercise nº 9 of www.neyzen.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se-W5kVWt5Y

Exercício nº10 de neyzen.com:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYjU3fnrUfU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHHkEXi_2m0

Segah Pesrev
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/segah/segah_p_yusuf_pasa1.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6SrBDk_vk

Beyati Pesrev
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/beyati/beyati_p_emin_dede.gif

Another neyzen:
Bayati Pesrev
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvdA9qE4L3I
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/beyati/beyati_p_seyfettin_osmanoglu1.gif

Hüzzam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsO1uFdjY1w
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/huzzam/huzzam_ss_refik_fersan.gif

Pesendide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOTCP9FU9q0
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/liste_harici/pesendide/pesendide_ss_sultan3selim.gif

Sehnaz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpKeuoNktNQ
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/sehnaz/sehnaz_p_ali_aga01.gif

Açemasiram
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhSwFiTUW9Q
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/acemasiran/acemasiran_p_dede_salih.gif

Sevk-Efza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al6Lf3MQObg
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/sefkefza/sevkefza_ss_said_dede1.gif

Ussak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwfwxaoIew8
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ussak/ussak_ss_salih_dede01.gif

Saba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sour2-An3zQ
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/saba/saba_p_buyuk_osman01.gif

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Our Recordings

Petros — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:38:04 GMT

How do you thing if we post here our Ney Recordings

I am preparing my new Record
Here Is A recording of traditional Greek Song Patrounino
I Play 12string guitar and Ney (the Melodic Line)
Haris Labrakis( The best greek Neyzen) makes a Taxim and Fasolis George Plays Drums
I hope you will enjoy it

http://www.p-zaranis.gr/mp3/Patrounino(Zaranis_Lamprakis_Fasolis).mp3

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Nomadiqa Ethnic Fusion and Arabesque Beats

nomadiqa — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:18:47 GMT

Hi Folks,
we recently released our debut album. It's a mix of electronic and arabian styles with some eastern european influences also. Just thinking it might be of interest to folks who like this kind of vibe and material.

There's four full tracks available to listen online.

http://www.myspace.com/nomadiqa
http://www.nomadiqa.com

Have a listen and see what you think. Sorry for the self promotion.

Many thanks,

Nomadiqa

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What does the constriction in the mouthpiece do?

Greg — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 03:59:33 GMT

Hi
I have been having a go at making PVC Ney type flutes for a while now.I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the constriction in or below a ney mouthpiece does?Bulgarian and Macedonian Kavals don't seem to have it.

Thanks
Greg
New Zealand

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research

Antonio — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:13:39 GMT

Dear friends:
I am doing a research on the physics of the ney. For that, I need to collect data from many flutes in order to treat the results statistically. If you have the time and patience, choose your best flutes and please fill the form bellow (you will need a caliper for the diameter).

Thanks in advance
Antonio
P.s. I will print the results later

NEY
TYPE: Arabic…….. – Turkish…………..
Note:………..(Note played with all the holes covered)
Total length:……… (cm)
Diameter at the embouchure: ………… (for Turkish ney without baspare)
Diameter at the end:……….. (cm)
Length of embouchure or 1st section:……….. Length of 9th or end section:………
Diameter at the middle of 2nd section or node:……….lenght of the 2nd section:………….
Diameter at the middle of 3th section :……….lenght of the 3th section:………….
Diameter at the middle of 4th section :……….lenght of the 4th section:………….
Diameter at the middle of 5th section :……….lenght of the 5th section:………….
Diameter at the middle of 6th section :……….lenght of the 6th section:………….
Diameter at the middle of 7th section :……….lenght of the 7th section:………….

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Unbelievable

Antonio — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:25:59 GMT

Super!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9nZAkh5qw

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a few of my favorite Turkish pieces

David — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:34:03 GMT

here are the urls to a few of my favorite Turkish pieces. Some are İLÂHÎLER, some are art music.

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/acemasiran/donandi_her_yer.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/cargah/ben_dervisim_diyene.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/gerdaniyye/severim_ben_seni_candan.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/hicaz/ey_asiki_sadiklar.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/hicaz/nice_bir_uyursun.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/neva/milki_bekadan.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/segah/allah_bize_lutfetti.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/segah/askin_aldi_benden_beni.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/segah/gaflet_ile_hakki.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/ilahiler/segah/sol_cennetin_irmaklari.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/acemkurdi/acemkurdi_ss_ismailhakki.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/hicaz/hicaz_p_refik_fersan1.gif
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/hicaz/hicaz_p_refik_fersan2.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/hicaz/hicaz_ss_refik_talat.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/hicaz/hicaz_ss_yusuf_pasa.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/hicaz_ailesi/hicazhumayun/hicazhumayun_ss_veli_dede.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/muhayyer/muhayyer_ss_cemil.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/muhayyerkurdi/muhayyerkurdi_ss_sadi_isilay.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/nihavend/nihavend_p_sadettin_arel.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/nihavend/nihavend_ss_mesut_cemil-1.gif
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/nihavend/nihavend_ss_mesut_cemil-2.gif

http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/seddiaraban/seddiaraban_ss_tanburi_cemil1.gif
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/seddiaraban/seddiaraban_ss_tanburi_cemil2.gif
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/seddiaraban/seddiaraban_ss_tanburi_cemil3.gif

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Buying a Ney

Achbar — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:57:43 GMT

Where can I get one?

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Who plays what?

David — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:04:54 GMT

So I'm a bit curious as to who in this tribe plays what sort of ney. Do you play Arabic nay, Turkish ney, or Persian ney....or like me dabble at all three, with my Persian chops being the weakest.
I started off with a Syrian teacher, but lately have focused more on the Turkish Mevlevi style. And am still trying to get a good upper register with the Persian ney!

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Taksim

Antonio — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:04:49 GMT

I don't know if this was already posted here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz594PYgSSw
One can see the notes along as the music is being played. If you check the playlist of the person who posted (Klasik53) you can grab all 14 solos.
Enjoy

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Turkish Ney

Hisham — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:59:24 GMT

Any Ney instructors (preferable Turkish Ney ) in the Washington DC metropolitan Area ?

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Ooops. I did a bad thing.

ZahiraDrum42 — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:56:13 GMT

I need help. I did something stupid and forgot the whole reeds that are still moist should not be in closed containers thing. You'd think, having mad a science experiment of some mey reads once, that I'd remember this. Apparently not.

So I had my neys, some pvc and some reed, in a black plastic blueprint tube. It makes a great case, and his quite protective and easily portable and can be strapped on your back. The only trouble is...its a bit too well sealed, and I see one of my neys is showing signs of..bad things happening inside it.

So I took it out and tried to clean it some, put some more oil in it and am leaving it sit out in the air but...I think it needs a bit more than that. Is there any way to clean the inside of a reed ney without hurting it? Pipe cleaner maybe? Has anyone else run into this problem before?

I feel like a bad ney mama or something.

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Pseudo-neys

ZahiraDrum42 — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:07:21 GMT

Anyone else going to Pennsic? (http://www.pennsicwar.org/penn36/index.html) I'm going, bringing my neys of course.

I'm also bringing some pseudo-starter-neys. Basically it seems whenever I go somewhere, someone asks me how do you get a sound, and they try mine, and I try to show them..but this is usually not a thing one can achieve in 5 or 10 minutes.

So I cut up a narrow pvc tube into random reasonably sized chunks, and I'm planning to carry a couple around with me . The idea being if someone is interested but isn't sure they want to buy one because they aren't able to get a sound yet, I'll give them one of these tubes to fiddle with. So then they can try it out and when/if they get a sound, go buy the real deal. It won't be exactly the same, but ought to be a good start.

So if you are going and see me,and interested, let me know.

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Maori Ney-like flutes in New Zealand

Greg — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:14:29 GMT

Hi All
I thought that some people might be interested in this website. http://www.inza.co.nz/RN_home.html It shows a number of Maori flutes that are blown by mouth or nose in a very ney-like way.The straight ones are called Koauau and are mouth blown and the bent ones are Nguru and can be blown by mouth or nose.They are made of wood ,bone ,stone or clay .They have a very small range of only 4 notes but are capable of very very haunting music.The short length and large bore enable the notes to be bent by up to a semitone.

Cheers
Greg
New Zealand

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Anyone else going to Pennsic?

ZahiraDrum42 — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:05:22 GMT

Anyone else going to <a href="http://www.pennsicwar.org/penn36/index.html" target="_blank">Pennsic</a>? I'm going, bringing my neys of course.

I'm also bringing pseudo-starter-neys. Basically it seems whenever I go somewhere, someone asks me how do you get a sound, and they try mine, and I try to show them..but this is usually not a thing one can achieve in 5 or 10 minutes.

So I cut up a narrow pvc tube into reasonably sized chunks, and I'm planning to carry a couple around with me . The idea being if someone is interested but isn't sure they want to buy one because they aren't able to get a sound yet, I'll give them one of these tubes to fiddle with. So then they can try it out and when/if they get a sound, go buy the real deal.

So if you are going and see me,and interested, let me know.

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Cool book some of you might like

ZahiraDrum42 — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:41:48 GMT

Journeys of a Sufi Musician (Paperback)

http://www.amazon.com/Journeys-Sufi-Musician-Kudsi-Erguner/dp/0863565476/ref=sr_1_1/102-8138552-9990537?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1185421248&sr=8-1

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Some beginner suggestions

David — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:59:48 GMT

Hi neyzen, I was looking at the board and thought that I would make a few suggestions from the perspective of an American that has played various types of ney for over 20 years.

First, if you want to play "ney", do you mean the oldest form, the Arabic nay (nai), the Turkish version of the ney, or the Persian ney?
All three are somewhat different things.

The Arabic instrument dates back at least to 1500-2000BC, is bilabially blown, and has no mouthpiece but just a sharpened end of the cane to blow. Although an urban classical instrument, it has strong pastoral connotations and is played with a lot of verve, with many trills, turns, and other expressive ornaments.

Somewhere after the 13th century the Turkish ney players began using a small mouthpiece called a bas,pare, and the instrument became the primary instrument of the Mevlevi order. Thus in Turkey the ney has spiritual connotations, the pastoral being left to the various kaval flutes.

In the late 18th and 19th century in Iran ney players adopted the Turkmen interdental blowing method and play a whole other form of ney, with fewer nodes and holes. This method is a unique path among ney players (and is my weakest area of ney playing!).

So first decide which type of ney with which you want to begin. then select the best key for your uses, taking into account hand size, and trying to avoid extremes of size as the largest and smallest neys have additional difficulties that the beginner does not need to deal with.

For Arabic music is suggest a nai al dugah, or a D ney. A nai al nawa or G ney would be a good choice too - I've played all night with bands on those two sizes. A C or A would also be useful if you play with a lot of different groups.

For Turkish music the most common size seems to be the Kiz ney, or ney in B. However I have heard many recordings on a D ney (superde), and lots of the instruments tune to a Bolahenk ney, ney in E.
Also the Mansur ney, in A, is common and it reads the Turkish notation at concert pitch. All sizes are available, but a typical neyzen can transpose so even if I have a B ney and the group plays off of E I can do so on the B ney.

I'm going to leave it to the experts on Persian ney to make any comments !

Always check any ney for tuning by making sure that the lowest note of the 3rd register is the same as the note with only the thumbhole closed in the second register, and likewise for the lowest note of the 4th register and the note in the 3rd register with the thumb and two fingers closed.

If the ney is in tune with itself then check the tuining. Ney are named for the note made with the lowest hole open, not with all closed. So if a ney plays C with all closed and D with one open hole, it is in D.

Ideally you want one with a nice big diameter so you can get a bigger tone in the low register, and one that plays the extra high notes above the 4th register.

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Ney miking

ZahiraDrum42 — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:55:18 GMT

Hi all,
Any suggestions for miking a ney? I do just fine with the mike-on-a-stand setup, but sometimes I need to use something more moveable or less obvious. I have a clip on lapel mike with a battery pack, but can't seem to get it aimed right to really pick up the sound. Any suggestions?

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Suggestions for where to get a ney?

ZivaDiva — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:44:03 GMT

Hi, all, I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction..I want to purchase and learn to play the ney...where do I buy one and is there any self-instructional material out there that you all recommend? I'm already a flute player and am learning dumbek...so I'm musically inclined...thank you!

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sayed bayoumi egyptian ney

egyptcart — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:24:21 GMT

check this link for egyptian ney signed by sayed bayoumi and also others pro. signed by adel fouad
http://www.sphinxshop.com/shop/egyptianney.htm

have a nice day

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new tribe for Mizmar and Zurna

David — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:17:05 GMT

I invite you to join a new tribe, tribes.tribe.net/mizmarzurna, for players and lovers of these loud but fun instruments.

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Online Ney Tutor in English

Greg — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:05:12 GMT

Hi
I just joined the group.Has anyone pointed out the english ney tutor at www.neyzen.com .
There are some good tips on Turkish ney and lots of good photos.

Have fun
Greg
New Zealand

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Just starting!

Taletha — Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:44:37 GMT

Hi! I'm a Boehm system flute player of about 18 years and I'm just starting to mess with the ney. Because of this, I have some silly questions.

1. I have one ney that is played transversely and one that is end blown. Will fingerings be different for these? (They both have 6 finger holes...one has an extra hole where no finger could possibly go)). Is this other thing even a ney?

2. I'm finding fingering charts for neys with 7 holes...this one only has 6?? Anything that can shed light on where I can find fingerings for this ney?

Thanks!

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Yet another wonderful use of youtube..

ZahiraDrum42 — Wed, 09 May 2007 02:03:17 GMT

Check this out..sheet music, in which the notes light up as the ney plays them. This is gorgeous stuff, and looks to be quite Turkish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz594PYgSSw

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Oil for Neys?

Greg — Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:22:13 GMT

Hi All
I was just oiling my Neys and I was wondering what sort of oil do you use?
I have used Almond oil and Hazelnut oil for Neys and other wind instruments and noticed no ill efects.

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Just saying,"Hello"

Jay — Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:34:44 GMT

My name is Jay Kruse and I make and play ney. I heard about this group awhile back and just wanted to toouch base with others who study this instrument.

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Nay, nay and thrice nay !

Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:10:39 GMT

Hello everyone ! I'm a newbie to this group, and I live in the U.K. I've just started to get an interest in this instrument - my lady friend's into tribal bellydancing, and I've always been more of a woodwind player than percussion. Anyway, I'm interested in learning to play this instrument, but I live about 300 miles from London in the north - east of England, so there's no chance I can drop on down for any workshops or anything, but I'd still like to know what sort of instrument I should buy to start me off. I'm aware that there are 7 in the full range of instruments and that these may be purchased via eBay etc., but you can't tell how good something sounds just by looking at it over the net ! All help and suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thank you.

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So....

ZahiraDrum42 — Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:03:34 GMT

So who out there already plays ney? Do you play professionally? How did you get started?

I have been playing on and off and casually maybe about 3 years now. I can play a number of songs but am still basically a beginner. I need a lot of work on sounding more Arabic, and working on other maqams and..well all sorts of stuff. I am thinking of going to a music camp in Wisconsin where Scott Marcus is teaching all week. Has anyone studied with him?

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Heartland music camp

ZahiraDrum42 — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:37:42 GMT

Hey all..
I just got back from the Hearland seminar on Arabic music in Wisconsin. It was really terrific! Dr. Scott Marcus was there teaching ney, and I learned a whole ton of stuff. So anyone want to talk technicalities of ney?

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Ney Workshops in London

Nihat — Sat, 20 May 2006 13:30:22 GMT

Hi there,

you maybe interested in this workshop in London

Ney (Reed Flute) Workshops
with Muniser Unver
An unique opportunity to learn this ancient Sufi instrument

Eight Week Workshop Starting Sun 4 of June 12-2 pm at St Marks Church in Angel

http://www.caravansary.org/workshops/

Neys will be available for sale in the workshop

Listen Muniser playing the Ney

The ney, one of the oldest types of flute, is found across the Middle East, but is traditionally a male instrument. Unver explains: "They told me that it was a difficult instrument for women to play because their chests weren't big enough, but I said 'Well, I want to play it!'". Unver was already hooked on performance and music from her first recording for Ankara Radio at the age of seven, and so attended the Ankara State Conservatoire studying piano, she studied classical Turkish and Mevlevi music under private tuition.

"When I perform I love it! I feel that I'm not old, but I'm young and flying!" says the defiantly sprightly ney player and teacher Munise Unver. Sixty-three years old and extremely proud of it, Unver was brought up in Ankara and Istanbul in a musical family. "My father was a musician, and musicians were always coming and practising in our house."

Unver came to the UK in 1968 because two of her English students decided that they wanted to continue their classes in the UK, and asked Unver what they should do. "We have an expression, 'Whether you stay here, or whether you take me there it makes no difference, but I was joking, and they took me seriously!" Planning only to stay six months, and then only a year, Unver married and has lived in London ever since.

Although she has mostly concentrated on teaching "because I don't want to take what I know with me" Unver hs also performed with a number of bands, and currently plays with the Nihavend Ensemble. Laughing about the youth of the rest of the group she comments "I am easily the oldest - I can go to the British Museum you know!" Ultimately, Unver cannot imagine giving up music because "I think music gives you life - it' s as important as water."

Fee for eight week workshop is £100 (£80 conc.) Payments via cheque or cash preferred. Credit Card payments can be made with the link above. Please make cheque payments to Caravansary Project, 108 Tower Gardens Rd, London, N17 7QB.

For more information and to book a place email to info@caravansary.org or call on 0794 448 9527

Workshops take place at St Marks Church in Angel

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Helpful for getting a sound..try a mirror.

ZahiraDrum42 — Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:08:37 GMT

There is something some of you might find helpful. I've found a lot of times when I'm here or there with the ney, people will come up to me and inevitably ask me how to play it and want to try it. And 99/100 times, of course, they struggle.

Well this summer a friend of mine decided one way or another he wanted to learn the ney and he was *going* to get a sound if he passed out trying. So I lent him an tourist-quality pvc ney from Turkey to play with till he could get note. For days he'd try and try and try and try.., getting light headed while doing so. But nothing.

Then I got the idea...ahah...and the two of us stood next to each other in front of a mirror while he watched what I was doing and next thing you know..TOOOOOOT.

And we both jumped about excitedly. It was great!

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question about lung capacity for playing ney

Baha'uddin — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:49:53 GMT

peace,
i'm house-bound for 2 months while i recover from pneumonia. i have been playing the recorder and want to start just practicing with the ney. do you think that that is possible? i am doing breathing exercises everyday, so i thought it might be even a good thing for me. please, if anyone has any ideas, please let me know. i thank you.
peace out,
baha'uddin

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Ney Maqam Fingering Charts online?

Psychedelic — Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:39:35 GMT

Anyone know of any good ones?

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HA!!!!! THESE DAMN STICKS MADE NOISE!!!!!!!

Donas (Tommy) — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:30:07 GMT

HA!!!!!! MUWAHAHA!!!!! MMMMMMMMUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

I will not be defeated by these things!!!!! I made noise!!!!!!!!

Although I'm not 100% sure that what I'm making is an actual Ney tone, or a harmonic 'whistle' that coincidentally changes pitch with fingering changes. I can get it to jump registers by altering the position of my palette, so I am as yet suspicious......

It started out with not much of a tone, then I could get a few notes, then I committed what I am sure is Ney Sacrelige by tooting out 'amazing grace' and 'wild rover'..... nothing quite like using a traditional middle eastern instrument to play traditional irish pub songs.... :O

And what made the difference between me getting notes, as opposed to just empty 'wind with pitch'????

OIL.

Ah Zahira, you were so right.....A dry Ney is a BROKEN Ney....

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Welcome all

ZahiraDrum42 — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 04:24:00 GMT

Anyone have any good ney pictures, tips, websites, cd recommendations, personal experiences, please share!

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