Eesh, Why Even Make The Effort?

topic posted Mon, December 17, 2007 - 11:25 AM by  offlineMelissa
OK, a co-worker brought this up for my opinion this morning. They are a good friend also battling feelings for a clueless, addicted, sociopathic man. This person was in a long distance relationship with someone who abused drugs, a person with a lot of money who rarely visited, who had many sexual identity issues, yadda yadda. Suffice to say my friend adored this man despite a whole lotta red flags. They finally broke things off several months ago, mid-summer I believe, and my friend has done a good job of staying OUT of touch, even electing not to respond to a birthday card last month.

So today the friend gets a Christmas card that they showed to me. The card was pretty, foiled, nice envelope, until you opened it and the personal message was on a label stucked at the end of the card. My friend then peeled the label back and said, "Look." There in gold foiled writing was: YOUR PERSONAL OR BUSINESS IMPRINT HERE. Yep, the bastard was so cheap they sent a free card. I validated my friend's reaction by being just as appalled as they were.

I mean, C'Mon! Does anyone else find this creepy, disgusting and completely heartless? My friend had the most vulnerable, wounded look on their face. They came to me because they knew I'd relate (I'd shared much of my Denver trauma with them.)

What are relationships coming to? Do people have no sense of decency anymore? My friend would have been better off with no card at all! It's like these losers need a fix and they seek out the ones they knew loved them above all others. It isn't that they want to work on the relationships, or change, or that they even want the person at all. They just have to dangle some carrot for their own self gratification.

I've used the male gender here, because it was a guy who did this, but I'm sure anyone could be guilty of such flagrant disrespect. Geesh.
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Melissa
Alabama
  • Re: Eesh, Why Even Make The Effort?

    Mon, December 17, 2007 - 6:13 PM
    Sorry Melissa, I gotta agree with a friend of mine on this one, who read the post.

    Okay, the guy makes the effort to show he cares by sending a birthday card, and she ignores him. Then he goes and makes an effort to send her an Xmas card to let her know he still thinks of her, and she's whining because the card wasn't something he paid for?

    Why the heck should he pay for a card, knowing she'll probably ignore it anyway, knowing she won't respond? So WHAT if it's a free or promo card? HE SENT HER A CARD!!!! If he'd made one by hand, would she have complained about that? The cost of the card doesn't matter. He cared enough to send SOMETHING. Not the least bit creepy, disgusting or heartless. I've dated men who didn't even give me a birthday card IN person, WHEN we were dating!

    Why the guy even bothers is beyond me. I'm sorry your friend got hurt by him, but still, give me a break. And if she thinks he IS just doing it to manipulate her, then she should care even less on the cost of the card.
    • Re: Eesh, Why Even Make The Effort?

      Mon, December 17, 2007 - 8:09 PM
      This is a guy who put my friend through hell for months, cancelling dates, not owning up to their relationship, pulling back, leading them on. He's a substance abuser with a LOT of issues. He's also, according to my friend, loaded. They broke up because the guy was not putting any effort into the relationship, continually hurting my friend, dashing hope, etc. It was a very painful ride and took great effort to break things off. Responding to the birthday card would have opened up the old wounds. The guy knew this.

      These people are both in their late 50's. Plenty of time to develop some sensitivity. A home made card would have delighted my friend because that takes EFFORT. Not even getting into the car to go to the dime store is piss poor effort, and sending a card that was so OBVIOUSLY free is a serious slap in the face. If he didn't have $1.00 for a Walmart card then he could have written a lengthy email with some heart to it. My friend wasn't asking for anything, never did except this guy's love and company. But they said no in a million ways and finally they got the hint.

      And actually my friend is a guy, which added another element to all this in that the lover would not outwardly acknowledge their relationship. So insulting on many levels. And my friend is an incredible person, very sensitive and I don't know how generous he is in the day to day, but I've always found him to be very giving and kind. To get a scawled promo card from a meth addict was not what he needed right now, not when he's come so far in healing.
      • Re: Eesh, Why Even Make The Effort?

        Tue, December 18, 2007 - 12:56 AM
        Im gonna have to go with Melissa on this one. There are some guys out there who really need to feel needed by terrorizing and dragging thru hell those people who they knew loved them. Almost every ex I have had has called me (after they had already been in a new relationship for a while) to tell me that they still love me.. to try to see if I was still hanging on -and if I wasnt, to try fruitlessly to get me to hang on again. I think its their ego boost. Of course, my ex's were all liars, users and abusers in the WORST way so that may explain it. I mean really, nothing says "I care" and "Fuck You" in the same sentence as a free/promo card. If you're going to go thru the effort of sending someone a card -someone who you obviously had a very significant relationship with- you'd at least get a form card from one of those boxes of cards. He INTENTIONALLY sent that card. So what? the recipient should feel greatful for a crap message of a card because he could have received nothing at all? I'm gonna have to say that nothing at all would have been better. You don't keep contacting an ex like that unless youre trying to fuck with their life. There's no reason the sender should be sending xmas cards in the first place. Those kinds of people are just toxic.
      • Re: Eesh, Why Even Make The Effort?

        Tue, December 18, 2007 - 6:39 PM
        If he's such a jerk, why worry about the card he sent at all? To heck with him! But I wouldn't take offense to a beautiful sample card, unless they'd whited out (white outted?) someone else's name. I'd be impressed by any guy who sends a card, period, frankly.

        And you didn't give much history in the first post.
  • Re: Eesh, Why Even Make The Effort?

    Tue, December 18, 2007 - 4:48 AM
    "with someone who abused drugs, a person with a lot of money who rarely visited, who had many sexual identity issues, yadda yadda"

    Why would anyone expect anything more from some one like that?

    So, he gets these free cards and decides to recycle them; he puts a sticky in it and writes a note on that and then pays the....what is it now.... .43 cents to mail it.

    I'd say for a drug using, sexually confused fella, that's a lot of effort. Besides, and this goes back to my whole sentiment in my first sentance....why even care if she's through with him.

    If that came from a man that she knew cared deeply for her, and that she knew was the *recycling* type, and that she cared for, then wouldn't it seem charming and thoughtful?
    • Re: Eesh, Why Even Make The Effort?

      Tue, December 18, 2007 - 7:14 AM
      I personally have to say... yay! for recycling!! is it really that big a deal...? (Personally I do that!)
      If your friend has moved on, then let it go... don't make mole hills into mountains... value it for what it was... a nice holiday greeting, and leave it at that... it's only hurtful if you make it so...
      • Re: Eesh, Why Even Make The Effort?

        Tue, December 18, 2007 - 6:14 PM
        He is trying to take that path. But afraid of opening anything back up. And when I say he was getting over, I should qualify with is anyone really "over" in a matter of months? I can be happy go lucky and one email from Denver makes me miss a breath. Not because I want him back, but because that emotional bond takes some time to break. I was also one of those naysayers wondering why this professional, gorgeous, kind, talented man would get so caught up emotionally. But he did. I did . . .with Denver. So in that regard I got my come uppance. I fell too, for the wrong one. Sigh.

        Recyling is fine but not in such an emotional arena. If I were in a place where I could not, say send my niece a birthday card, I'd probably send her a rambling silly, cartooned message on hotel stationary or lined paper. But sometimes sentiment needs detail and attention, particularly when you know the person you are sending it to is hungry for romance. My friend deserved more in this case. I agree with the alternate view in some cases, as I tend to love handmade cards or cheap cards with long letters inside. But even I know better than to show so little respect to my friend, knowing how he is. If I'd been in a relationship with him (and wasn't a self absorbed twit) I'd certainly know.

        Thanks for listening though. He seemed much better today.

        Mel

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