following on from the discussion here:CJtribe hangar video thread:
cj.tribe.net/thread/9967...4a7bb73115ed
HEEEEELP!
It is Drew, I'm not in Kenya, and I can't see lions or tigers. I've been into contact manipulation for a decade which makes me a baby in this thread.
I've been doing research - I'm trying to peice together a History of this thing we do - Ball manipulation, Contact, whatever we call it!! a fair history with everyone's story.
The names Tony Duncan and Eric Baggai crop up regulary, and I know you guys have lived through it being "living fossils" of the american juggling scene. (joking ok)
I would love to hear your stories, and what is this talk you have about an old ija routine video?.
And what about these things:
1) Chinese Baouding balls and palmspinning
2) Camel backing
3) Ancient Chinese/oriental performers body rolling with woven "basket" balls alledgedly inspiration for rastelli and brunn
4) ball manipulation magicians - like there was a report of a magicain doing crystall ball manipulation in 77
5) Francis brunn seems well documented.
6) and of course MM. I hear Much about what moschen said or alledgedly said, and Of course "Light." which my modern standards the technique on the video is not that good, but then I think it was quite something - I don't want to re-open old wounds, but would greatly value hearing what you know about this, the historical content of what was actually going on at the time and before moschen, is needed to put everything into context. (I tried to contact Moschen from the UK but his agent doesn't seem to reply to e-mails!!)
Se please tony, Eric and greg if you're reading - whats your story, and can you recommend places/ people that i can got to to get more info on this?
Many thanks
Drew
-Forget norway!
cj.tribe.net/thread/9967...4a7bb73115ed
HEEEEELP!
It is Drew, I'm not in Kenya, and I can't see lions or tigers. I've been into contact manipulation for a decade which makes me a baby in this thread.
I've been doing research - I'm trying to peice together a History of this thing we do - Ball manipulation, Contact, whatever we call it!! a fair history with everyone's story.
The names Tony Duncan and Eric Baggai crop up regulary, and I know you guys have lived through it being "living fossils" of the american juggling scene. (joking ok)
I would love to hear your stories, and what is this talk you have about an old ija routine video?.
And what about these things:
1) Chinese Baouding balls and palmspinning
2) Camel backing
3) Ancient Chinese/oriental performers body rolling with woven "basket" balls alledgedly inspiration for rastelli and brunn
4) ball manipulation magicians - like there was a report of a magicain doing crystall ball manipulation in 77
5) Francis brunn seems well documented.
6) and of course MM. I hear Much about what moschen said or alledgedly said, and Of course "Light." which my modern standards the technique on the video is not that good, but then I think it was quite something - I don't want to re-open old wounds, but would greatly value hearing what you know about this, the historical content of what was actually going on at the time and before moschen, is needed to put everything into context. (I tried to contact Moschen from the UK but his agent doesn't seem to reply to e-mails!!)
Se please tony, Eric and greg if you're reading - whats your story, and can you recommend places/ people that i can got to to get more info on this?
Many thanks
Drew
-Forget norway!
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Re: Early days - History of manipulation and contact
Tue, November 22, 2005 - 4:38 PMMaybe James Ernst, the author of the contact book would have something to say. My understanding is that he is not particularly caught up in the juggling world and he may have a novel viewpoint.
You could also talk to Rich Shumaker. He was a friend of Ernst from back in the day and has stories about the genesis of CJ as a "popular" movement, the compilation of the first book on the subject and he has been at it himself since the 80's some time.
Ah... I see he is already your internet friend...
You can also try getting a hold of Michael Glenn the producer of Sphereplay. He has been rolling balls since the late 80's or early 90's I believe and has a very different story then most of us. It was only after he had been at it for quite some time that he found others doing it, so he has a seperate terminology and style.
Greg Irwin, a performer in Ohio, would be the person to contact about the Chinese Baouding balls. He has done promotional work with the makers in Baouding, China and does a crazy variety of palmspinning with those damn chimes ringing away. You can find him through his Hand Health videos.
If you can get to Moschen in person my experience is that he is willing to answer any questions that you have and even give pointers on technique so long as you don't mention the words "Contact Juggling." Try approaching him after a show.
