what are your symptoms?

topic posted Sat, November 5, 2005 - 4:24 PM by  Gayle
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From the various networking I've done about allium intolerance so far (including a yahoo group called onionfree), it seems there are two main groups of symptomatology, which might be labeled:

- gastrointestinal (which would include cramps, flatulence, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and constipation); and

- histamine (which would include migraines, headaches, congestion, hives, asthmatic symptoms, anaphylactic shock, and other histamine-type reactions).

I am interested in learning more about the causes of these reactions to alliums. Do you have symptoms more from one group than the other, or do you get both? Are there other types of reactions you get to onions/garlic? What about heredity? Does anyone else in your family have allium intolerance?
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Gayle
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  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, November 6, 2005 - 2:20 AM
    i'm in the GI category - from the bulb portion. i can tolerate a little when i get the "essence" or when the allium (onion, garlic, leeks, shallots, etc) is cooked into oblivion, nearly melted away. i can tolerate the discomfort at lower levels (as long as no one will be around me while i *digest*) but if i accidentally ingest any of it RAW, esp. onions, i'm in fetal position from extreme GI pain for about 12 hours. i seem to do better with juices extracted from cooked allium - i can have the BROTH part of french onion soup for example.

    there might be one sib (i think just minor flatulence e.g. still ingests carmelized onions) but my parents think i have some psychosomatic issue. i think most my friends also thought for a long time i was just being picky. i think my allium problems surfaced as an adult (might have had it as a kid but i didn't really like onions back then) and worsens over the years, but i wonder if that is a tolerance issue. i should probably do a bit of research and see if one CAN gain tolerance by upping intake a little at a time.

    the thing i would LOVE to have occasionally - onion rings and roasted garlic, lots of it. no substitute for those.

    i think having a true allergy would be a big problem because onion and garlic are used in cooking/flavoring in a lot of things including a lot of prepackaged things.

    how about you?
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Sun, November 6, 2005 - 11:56 AM
      I'm in the GI camp, too, though I also get fatigue and crankiness which might or might not be psychosomatic.* It has definitely gotten worse over the years, though I don't know exactly when it started, I used to eat onions in EVERYTHING. I had all kinds of tests at around age 20 and ended up with a diagnosis of Irritable Bowel Syndrome (which means "we don't know what's wrong with you, but yeah, you have a collection of GI symptoms anyway"). It wasn't until about 10 years later than I noticed my symptoms were worse after eating Indian food, and then I narrowed it down from there and figured out it was onions. Since avoiding onions and garlic, I hardly ever have IBS symptoms anymore! Imagine that.

      My father and sister still eat onions and garlic all the time. My father doesn't seem to have any GI ill effects from it, but I think my sister does... she just doesn't want to give up onions and garlic (or, more accurately, convenience food). My mother had a lot of GI issues, so it's possible that she had some sensitivity to onions and garlic, though we'll never know for sure; I didn't figure out what my problem was until years after she died.

      My onion/garlic intolerance has increased over the past few years. I used to be okay with small amounts of dried onion/garlic (like the powders or "minced onions" you get in the spice department) and with boxed broth like the amazing organic veggie broth that Trader Joe's and various natural food stores sell, but over the last few months, I seem to be reacting to those now, too. This is a blow; I will have to start making my own veggie broth now...

      But one very cool thing that has emerged from my allium intolerance is that I have become a good cook, out of necessity! I didn't enjoy cooking very much 15 years ago, but now it's one of my favorite pastimes, and I'm considering writing an onion-free cookbook someday! I get a lot of joy out of cooking for and feeding my friends and loved ones.

      * Re: fatigue and crankiness possibly being psychosomatic in me: It occurred to me yesterday, as I moped around after having had restaurant food on Friday night and then a potluck brunch on Saturday, that the fatigue and crankiness are brought on from a feeling of not being "safe"--it's depressing to share food with friends and then get sick, and often there is an element of feeling "betrayed" when I eat something that I thought was safe and then it turns out not to be... or when I have to pass on most of the yummy things at a potluck because I know they have onions or garlic in them. Then again, I also happened to have a lot of allergic symptoms yesterday morning which I attributed to something else, but it's possible that there is an allergic/histamine component to my allium issue as well, which could also bring on the fatigue and crankiness. In fact, fatigue and crankiness could be the direct result of GI misery; it takes a lot of energy to process toxins through your system!
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Sun, November 6, 2005 - 12:15 PM
        i wouldn't be able to detect any fatigue or crankiness with the allium - i usually accidentally ingest only a little (i try to go to bed fairly quickly once i realize this) or had the extreme case with the raw onion where the pain masks everything else.

        have you tried cooking with onions but pulling the onions physically out after they are done cooking? that helps tremendously for me and at least i can get a little onion (garlic) flavor without too much discomfort. try making broth with onion in cheesecloth ~

        "IBS" sucks - my exBF's dad has it, but didn't modify his diet which i thought was weird. he stuck to his typical traditional british fare - the man wouldn't cut back on his beef
        • Re: what are your symptoms?

          Sun, November 6, 2005 - 4:50 PM
          My symptoms are mostly GI, but I also get migraines if I eat too much onion. There was that night I was having tater tots, not realizing they had onion (just thinking, 'gee these taste good!'), and the next day was hell. Now I know about tater tots. :-\

          Onion can also make me tired.

          Both onion and garlic leave their taste in my mouth for a day or so, and it can take a couple days before I feel solid again.

          And things simply cooked with onion are just as bad for me as eating the onions themselves.
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Sat, May 6, 2006 - 7:26 AM
        Actually, if it makes you feel any better (at least psychologically!) the fatigue and crankiness are NOT psychosomatic. In the onion allergy group on about.com, there are three categories of symptoms instead of two. There are the two you have here, plus a category of neurological symptoms. I begin my allergic reaction with this final group; upon ingesting any sort of allium (sad to say, also in the tiniest powdered form), I am immediately fatigued, cranky, and confused/disoriented. This stage lasts for about a half hour, and then is followed by a swelling in my throat and a headache. The third stage is the classic digestive distress. If I have ingested enough, I can even have numbness in my limbs and trouble with breathing.

        The onion allergy has been building since puberty, but the garlic allergy just set in during the last few months. The worst part of all of this for me has been that I'm a "foodie" who has always been eager to try absolutely any type of food set in front of me, especially if it's different, odd, or ethnic. Now, I obviously can't do that. I really hate being that person in the restaurant or at the party that has to ask about each dish's ingredients, but I don't have a choice. One blessing is that I do love to cook, so I have had to learn to re-create all of my favorite dishes from scratch. Since I'm allergic to onion & garlic powder, too, this means ketchup, pasta sauce, pizza sauce, barbeque sauce, chicken broth, and on and on. In order to not want to jump off a bridge sometimes, I have to remain positive and treat this as a culinary challenge. I also focus on what I CAN have, like chocolate and cheese. ;-)

        If there is any silver lining here, it's that I've had to pay a lot more attention to what I eat, and eliminate practically all processed food mixes. As a result, I have lost 30 lbs. Still, I dream of roasted garlic on warm bread, red onions in fresh salsa, the local rib festival...*sigh*
        • Re: what are your symptoms?

          Sun, May 7, 2006 - 11:54 PM
          Wow! Very interesting (and helpful!) information--thanx, Karen! I had noticed that the fatigue/crankiness/"stupidness" and also the headaches seem to be the sort of "crossover" symptoms between the 2 main groups of symptomatology (GI and histamine). It does make sense that the neuro stuff is a separate category. I wonder if anyone gets only the neurological stuff without one or both of the other categories? I'd guess that if so, they probably don't even realize it's got to do with food intolerance. Very very very fascinating!
        • Jim
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          Re: what are your symptoms?

          Fri, September 22, 2006 - 4:42 PM
          I just joined the Tribe, and was interested in hearing others with Garlic problems. I also have a severe dairy problem. Some call it intolerance, but I am so far to the end of the spectrum I call it an allergy.

          How long do your sypmtoms last and on a scale of 1 ro 10 (10 being worst) where do you usually fall after having garlic?
          Jim
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Tue, November 22, 2005 - 12:06 AM
    My symptoms are GI, but are only with raw alliums. If they are cooked very well, they don't bother me. Otherwise, its 24 hours of misery. Mind you..... I still do eat them raw sometimes and just deal. I honestly never knew there were others out there that had similar problems.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Tue, November 22, 2005 - 6:31 PM
      It's amazing the number of us there are, and each of us thought we were the only ones! There is a yahoo email list (onionfree) that has a pretty good number of people, and one night I read many but not all of the 38-or-so PAGES of posts on about.com about onion intolerance.

      I am seriously considering shifting my career in a direction more towards researching and treating this and other food intolerances... but specifically this allium one, since it seems to be waaaay underestimated and much more prevalent than most people realize.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Tue, November 22, 2005 - 11:31 PM
      that's me for the most part although recently, it's cooked stuff too. but i sometimes deal because it's so hard to avoid altogether esp. out or at get togethers unless the host(ess) knows about my allium *issue*.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Fri, October 13, 2006 - 8:57 AM
    I have severe garlic intolerance. At first I thought it was an allergy, but after doing some research I learned that troubles with digesting and processing certain foods fall under the intolerance category. If I accidentally eat garlic it goes something like this:

    30 minutes: Slight upset stomach
    45 min - 1 hour: Cramps begin in the stomach, bloating and pressure begin
    1-2 hours: Severe bloating and pressure, nausea sometimes
    2-4 hours: I have to lie down, I feel miserable, severe bloating still in effect and it hurts to even touch my stomach, violent vomiting if it's a really bad case

    After this I usually have to sleep it off. It can go into the next day or two if it is a severe case. The thing that I am most upset about is that I think it's starting to happen when I eat onions now. I LOVE ONIONS! I buy them by the bag every time I go grocery shopping.

    I'm currently searching for a natural herb that will help with the relief of accidental ingestion. Does anyone know of anything? There's got to be something...

    Thanks!
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Thu, January 25, 2007 - 6:20 AM
      Hiya, its good to no that i'm not imagining my symptons. ive been thinking for ages that its wheat or milk. then i thought that in was tomatoes that were causing all the trouble. since then it clicked for me that it was garlic that causes me the biggest problems and i'm starting to think that onions do too but to a lesser degree. if i eat garlic i sleep really badly and wake up with terrible cramps and wind and am on the toilet all day. the skin on my eyelids gets all scaley and red as do my arms and a few other places. my eyes puff up and i have really big bags under them. i get a sore throat and feel like i'm comiong down with the flu or have a really bad hangover and cant think properly, i always feel a bit fuzzy for a few days after.
      i'm finding it really difficult finding food to eat. i have a susspision that not all foods make garlic as an ingreadient and that when it says "spices or seasoning" garlic is in there.
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Wed, February 7, 2007 - 10:26 PM
        Absolutely right that "spices" or even "natural flavoring" in an ingredient list could mean onion and/or garlic. I gotta tell you, I've become a much better cook (out of necessity!) since figuring out this allergy/intolerance! Can't rely on prepackaged foods much anymore!
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Sun, March 18, 2007 - 5:32 PM
      I have had some luck with really strong ginger. I will steep ginger root in hot water and sweeten with raw honey, or the real, strong ginger ale (Reed's?), or even Ginger Altoids. It relaxes the "smooth muscles", which includes the intestines and stomach. Peppermint Altoids sometimes help, too, and one good thing I have found is the Chamomile Pepsin capsules from "Nature's Herbs".
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Sun, March 18, 2007 - 5:51 PM
        I have the GI symptoms with onions, and the rest with garlic. I found out that this was the cause after I could only have very specific clear liquids for a month after a tooth extraction caused a hole in my upper jaw bone into my sinus. When I started eating solid food again, the first thing I did was sautee a clove of garlic, and even the smell made me feel sick. This used to be my favorite food smell.

        I have significant neurological and also cardiac issues, all of which have been diagnosed, and I have lived with them for about 14 years. That one garlic meal triggered about half of them immediately. It was awful! I looked it up online, and I found the about.com site, and there it was - I wasn't crazy. It resolved in a few days, for the most part.

        To add to what has already been listed here by you all, I also had been troubled by a horrible body odor for about a year or more. I didn't smell "like garlic", but it was really bad, and I spent a lot of time dealing with it, with no success. It went away during my clear liquid fast, and then was instantly back with the garlic. It slowly faded at about the same time the rest of the symptoms did. Another thing is, with my symptoms, I had figured out years ago that eating or just flat drinking straight Tabasco Sauce helped somewhat. I read something online that they are researching it still, but Tabasco can mediate the garlic reaction somewhat. It seemed help.

        The symtoms I have that haven't already been listed here are: my carotid artery swells out of my neck, causing a vascular migraine (referred to as carotidynia). This is horribly painful (and makes me very thirsty). I also have a type of headache similar to a cluster headache on that same side of my head, called chronic paroxismal hemicrania, which was triggered by this. Oh, and the kind of "morose", tired, dull feeling you all described - very much associated with the headaches/garlic. I used to think (secretly) that maybe I was bipolar, it would seem to hit out of the blue, but now I know! I have other, disabling neurological issues, as well as a balance disorder and also significant cardiac stuff, and part of me wonders if it could all have been caused by eating such a large quantity of these foods for so long. That is probably just wishful thinking on my part - to have a grand explanation, but now that I have gone without, I DO NOT miss it at all. I would rather eat steamed plain veggies for the rest of my life than feel like that - it was such a good way to test it, although completely by chance.

        I am glad you all are here. It helps to hear about your experience, so I can reassure myself I am not nuts!

        Oh - squeezing lemon juice on things is a great substitute!
        • Re: what are your symptoms?

          Tue, March 20, 2007 - 6:01 PM
          Oh yeah, ginger and peppermint; thank you for mentioning those. They help me a little, but not really enough. I've also had some (only mild) good luck with dark chocolate and strong coffee.
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Sat, December 22, 2007 - 12:12 AM
        I started having onion intolerance around 25. I could smell it right through my skin! I try to be very careful about not eating them but every once in a while someone (evil) will grate them into their recipe so I won't even know they are in there and then (like now) I'm up at 2:30 in the morning having the cramps and major discomfort, and sipping ginger tea hoping it will soon go away.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Wed, November 29, 2006 - 4:31 AM
    I also get GI problems. If I eat garlic or onions (worse with garlic) on a night I will start feeling bloated. When I wake up the next morning the symptoms can range from constipation to diarrhoea and stomach cramps, ALWAYS flatulence problems and the most embarrassing noises coming from my stomach! This will last for a day or so, and I will try to avoid being anywhere quiet in the meantime!

    Now that I know this happens I avoid garlic and onion as much as possible. Like others I sometimes put up with it because I love garlic so much, but I will normally let myself eat garlic on a Friday night so I don't have to be around people the next day, or if I am it's not in a quiet environment.

    Has anyone found anything that alleviates the symptoms? I sometimes find Remegel Wind Relief chewy tablets can help with the flatulence and noisy tummy, if it's only mild symptoms. Any other suggestions??
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Mon, December 4, 2006 - 9:01 PM
      For mild GI problems, as you mentioned, simethicone (Gas-X, etc) is very helpful. I always carry it in my purse in case of accidental onion/garlic ingestion. I haven't found anything that helps with the headaches, stupid-feeling, crankiness, or nausea.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, January 7, 2007 - 8:13 PM
    I have had IBS problems for about 4 years now. They started my senior year in college and admittedly have a huge correlation to stress. My symptoms were so bad that at the age of 23 I had a colonoscopy (not your average age for the procedure). My doc did not find anything and about 1 1/2 years ago I started to get a little better. I found that certain foods triggered my problems, like anything with oregano in it flared up my acid reflux and tomato dishes triggered my IBS. I eventually came to the conclusion that it wasn't the tomatoes as many IBS diet guides indicated, but the onion/onion powder in the sauces. I can not eat ANYTHING that an onion has come within a 10ft radius of.

    I was thrilled, in a strange way, to find this tribe. I thought that it was a little freakish of a allergy, but when explaining to my Grandmother over thanksgiving why I can't eat the green bean casserole this year she informed me that a close family friend of our has the same problem. I was inspired to Google the issue to see how common it is/isn't.

    I am interested to know if there is a test that my doctor can do to identify the issue and whether or not there is a treatment besides avoidance. I too love onions and will occasionally make the sacrifice and other times it is thrust upon me, like when I served myself a Cuban rice dish at our office Christmas party after being assured that it was onion free and proceeded to bite directly into a piece of onion.

    If any one has any recommendations I would love to hear them.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sat, January 13, 2007 - 2:20 PM
    I want to let everyone know of another symptom of garlic intolerance which only affects a small amount of people but if you are aware of it, you can change your life. For years now I have had increasing problems with insomnia. I tried everything but still could not seem to fall asleep at night. After making some very strong garlic pesto last summer, I literally did not sleep for 3 days. Found a post on the internet by someone who had a similiar reaction to garlic and decided to eliminate it from my diet. It's been six months now and I am falling asleep almost instantly and sleeping clear through the night. Several times I have unknowingly eaten a sauce or food with garlic in it and even the smallest amount will cause insomnia as happened over the holidays when I had some shrimp sauce that I didn't check the label on. The upside of this discovery is obvious, the downside is that garlic is in almost every processed food and almost everyone I know here in the northwest cooks with garlic so it's very difficult to accept social invitations without major consequence. Hope this post helps someone.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Wed, January 24, 2007 - 11:53 AM
    Hi - I just came across this as I was searching for the possibility of an onion/garlic allergy. Boy was I surprised at what I found. I believe that I might have such allergy but with only the histamine reaction. It has taken me some time to trace the headaches and then more started to ocurr. A friend recently asked me, "what does your gut tell you is bothering you" I thought about it and said either garlic or onions in raw form - one or the other. Then it dawned on me that they are related (foggy moment). This morning I had an omelet with onions, carrots and spinach(onions not cooked much). Now since I ate the headache has gradually increased...I get the tingling in my sinuses and pain in my teeth and an all over icky feeling...like I need to lie down. Now this ocurrs when I am having either item I think..I am going to make note of it and track it better. I do know that years ago I first noticed while chopping fresh garlic I'd get intense headaches. So does this sound like an allergy for those of you who have known of yours? I do not have any gastro upset. Not in connection to the onion and garlic. Thanks for the input.
    Be well
    Michelle
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    Re: what are your symptoms?

    Thu, January 25, 2007 - 5:05 AM
    For a long time I just thought it was curry or some other recipe that I was struggling with but I am beginning to realise that I am intolerant to the allium family (onions in their raw or cooked state, leeks and spring onions seem to be the worst offenders). The symptoms I have noticed are stomach cramps, bloating, sudden bouts of diarrhoea, flatulence. I am asthmatic and, having read your report, I will now start to track whether or not my asthma is worse when I have eaten anything containing onions.

    I am not aware of anyone else in my family having the same intolerance. But I do have other food intolerances and allergies, including to almonds, walnuts, hazelnuts and brazils, particularly in their uncooked state. My son who is just 6 also seems to have food intolerances so I will keep an eye on hism for allium intolerance and will report back if he seems to be a fellow-sufferer.
  • Cranky, Cranky. Tear my lungs out, wiggle my teeth.

    Sat, February 10, 2007 - 6:03 AM
    Hello Gayle. Hi everyone.

    Glad to have found a group like this, as good info and discussion on onion allergy has been pretty hard to find.
    I only really clicked that I had an allergy to raw onion, garlic, chives etc and onion/garlic powder about 3 years ago. Upon refelection, it's been present and worsening for about 15 years (I'm 27).

    I fall quite squarely into the histamine group.
    I'll list my symptoms, in order they will occur. The more I've consumed, the further down the list I end up.

    1. Mild itching between fingers/toes, crooks of elbows, behind knees.
    2. Irritated scalp.
    3. Burning itchy eyes. As if I've been watching TV for hours in a dark room.
    4. Irritability. Plain old cranky, I tend to have very little patience.
    5. Sore/tight muscles. Best way I can describe, is how you feel when you've slept without a blanket. Very temporary relief from stretching,
    and pain from exertion (lifting something very heavy, lots of push ups, bunching fists really tight, jabbing at tensed
    muscles. May sound extreme, but this feeling is very frustrating for me)
    6. Sore joints. As above, feel like I wanto to stretch every joint into hyperflexion. Tug at ears, repeatedly rotate wrists/ankles pull fingers,
    arms etc.
    7. Sore muscles spreads to my diaphragm.
    8. Lethargy and further irritation. Start losing motivation to complete tasks, become easily frustrated.
    9 .Itchiness around the intercostal muscles, short relief by taking huge breaths and pushing out chest.
    10. Sensitivity to bright light.
    11. Further irritated scalp, irritation around body hair follicles.
    12. Loose teeth.

    and the killer for me, really ruin my day material.
    12. Itching inside my chest. Best analogy would be eczema in my lungs. This ones is quite distressing, impossible as it is, there's always an urge to jam a hand inside my chest and scrape at the inside of my ribs.


    If I've eaten say a few rings of raw onion, that will give me the first 5 symptoms within 5-10 mins.
    If I'm oblivious to onion content, such as with small amounts, or with food with small amounts of powder as flavouring, I usually don't realise I've eaten onion until I get mildly itchy, short tempered and short attention span.

    As a standard of measure, using a universal constant <grin>, the quantity of raw onion in one McDonald's cheeseburger is about all I can handle comfortably. Big Mac or Quarter Pounder, and I'm no longer pleasant company. A packet of cheese and onion crisps puts me nearly all the way.

    I seem to be sensitive enough to get a reaction if chopped tomato has been prepared with the same board/knife as onion.

    Now that I'm careful about raw onion, garlic and their powders, I realise how many sauces, gravies, dips, chips/crisps, and savoury biscuits contain them.
    Also how many restaurants insist on putting it through salads. Its very often that I go to a salad bar, and from a selection of 10 salads, find maybe one or two that don't appear to contain raw onion. Just as often, after eating I find out the hard way that they all did.

    I think raw onion can be incredibly overpowering as a flavour and am not a fan of the taste at all, but I miss being able to use it as a seasoning when I prepare dips and spreads.

    I have never had a problem with anything in the onion family when it is cooked, and I am a huge fan. In fact, I think my life in the kitchen, and at the meals table would be utterly MISERABLE if I developed a reaction to cooked onion, chives and garlic.

    I haven't seen a specialist yet, but it is a resolution for 2007.
    • Cat
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      Hi Zirenton,
      Wow - I cannot believe someone else has itching in their intercostal muscles - that is unbelievable. I fall into the histamine group as well. My symptom onset was about age 23 (7 years ago). I have no idea why. Actually, Sx onset may have been sooner b/c my scalp has been very sensitive for over 10 years (thanks again for that symptom!). I am sensitive to any raw onions and garlic especially. I have to carmelize them otherwise. Leeks, shallots, etc. are slightly less disturbing to me. I am also very sensitive to vinegar (except apple cider... or so I thought until today at lunch). About 20 minutes after I eat I will suddenly realize:

      - I am in a deep mental fog. I cannot think straight and cannot focus. It feels like poison fog is surrounding my head.
      - I get angry (feeling like this whole allergy is so stupid!)
      - My eyes are very dry
      - My mouth is sore and I am salivating, though my lips and margins of my tongue are parched.
      - I am thirsty for water.
      - My teeth feel like they are going to rot out.
      - All of the muscles (including diaphragm) in my body ache - it literally feels like a poison gas has permeated every cell of my musculature and brain.
      - I find the only "useful" thing I can do is go to sleep and hope the Sx are gone when I awake.
      - I feel sometimes like the Sx are best likened to a high school experience of smoking "bad pot".

      Interestingly enough, I am much better for exercise (though I am a bit of an exercise junkie as it is). It is as if by increasing my metabolic rate, I am somehow purging my cells of the toxin sooner. I also seem to be better for massage... but I don't get that opportunity much.

      Longer lasting symptoms include the:
      - Itching over my intercostals - such that I will have scratch marks along them directly parallel to my ribs.
      - Itching over the fronts of my shins - to the degree that I scratch them raw sometimes (using Badger Body Oil helps some).
      - Tenderness of scalp. It feels really good just to move my hair a tiny bit from it's usual pony-tail position.

      I am vegan, and my roommate has Celiac Dz, so we have a pretty restrictive household as it is.... this just makes it that much more difficult. Thank goodness I can handle the carmelized and powdered versions.... although after reading much of this, I wonder how long that will last. I find it interesting that many of us have said how much we like ethnic foods. I LOVE Thai and Indian. I wonder if eating "too much garlic/onions" can contribute to this. I also came across someone saying dental amalgam Hg+ may be related to this intolerance. Anyone else hear of that (I have way too many amalgam fillings in my mouth)?

      I am also a big user of homeopathy, and it just seems to me that there must be a remedy out there to help me (and others). I'll let you all know what I find. I am a medical student, and this whole intolerance is making it very difficult for me to function at maximal capacity (which is what is always required of us). At least I will be a much more compassionate doctor for the journey! I wish there were more in the medical literature on this!
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, February 25, 2007 - 10:45 AM
    I have recently figured out that something in garlic troubles me. I had never heard of allium intolerance and I was beginning to believe it was my imagination until I began researching online and found a few great sites that confirmed for me I was sane, but ill. My problems seen to be mostly gastrointestinal, including cramps, flatulence, nausea, vomiting (Projectile) and diarrhea, but I seem to have some histamine reactions too ... migraines, headaches, congestion (My head is pounding at this very moment). I would have never guessed garlic could cause these problems but after last night I am doubly convinced. Friday night around 6pm I had some grilled beef and by Saturday morning, around 4am, I was seriously ill. I hate to be so blunt, but I was burping garlic, sweating garlic, tasting it in my mouth, then about an hour later the vomiting began. My friend, who was with me, smelled garlic. Afterwards I was tired, cranky and headachy and slept all of Saturday, and all of today until almost 12pm. I can still smell the garlic on my skin.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sat, March 31, 2007 - 12:23 PM
    Hi Gayle and everyone
    i have been suffering (in increasing intensity) from onion intolerance (including garlic and leeks now) for about 5 years. After having had a really bad bout of it yesterday i decided to google the problem and came up with you guys! What a relief to find out that other people suffer with the same as me - no-one else i know has this problem and i get a wide variety of reactions to this problem varying from disbelief to annoyance.
    I suffer from the gastro-intestinal kind of intolerance which starts as a bloated stomach and ends up after a few hours as excruciating pain which has me doubled up crying on the floor! The only things i have found to be of use for this is peppermint tea for mild symptoms to Milk of Magnesia or Gaviscon when it starts to get worse. Unfortunately i usually end having to take so much Milk of M to get rid of the pain (which it does) that i get diarrhoea (gross i know - sorry - but it does warn you on the bottle so can't blame the manufacturers) the next day and feel really tired, headachey and grouchy, with my intestines still in a bit of turmoil.
    Does anyone have any other remedies that have less side effects? I saw the post about ginger tea - which i will give a go!
    I haven't bothered going to the doctor with this as i know what their reaction will be - and really what can they do anyway?
    What really annoys me is when i have diligently avoided all onion related foods and end up with the symptoms anyway as mysteriously some food i have eaten has either been cooked near onions or has them hidden in it somewhere. This is what happened yesterday and i still have no idea what started it. I ended up having to leave a birthday meal half way through because i was in such agony - which was quite embarrassing and very annoying.
    Still i am cheered to find there is somewhere on the web i can turn to where people understand the problem!
    Thanks all!
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Tue, April 3, 2007 - 12:06 PM
      Hi Everyone!

      I was so excited when I found you guys that I could hardly contain myself! I knew I couldn't be alone, but it sure felt like I was. Then I wrote this, but I wasn't finished with it, and I've been really tired since.

      My symptoms are GI mainly, but now that it's been mentioned, I bet I'll find that my tiredness, fogginess etc. is linked to this.
      My GI symptoms are GI pain / cramps that are so bad that I just want to curl up and disappear, wind, diarrhea and loose stools, and sometimes my body gets achy. It's as if there is a layer of acid all over my body under my skin, about the strength of lactic acid or stomach acid. Sleep is a good escape, and usually by the time I wake up, it's all gone away.
      I found I got so bad that I couldn't have anything that was cooked in the same dish with onions (and had juices run over) or salad with onions picked out, or even small amounts of onion or garlic powder.

      I was lucky, after only 4 years of experiencing the pain and discomfort, (in Fall 2002) I took a Nutrition course in college. When I told my teacher about my symptoms, she told me right away that it was an intolerance. I just accepted that as a fact and got over my denial. I really needed that verification from somewhere. When I told my Doctor about it, and asked him if there was anything I could do, he said "Don't eat onions!" That wasn't the kind of help I was looking for, but I guess that was his way of trying to be funny, and telling me there was nothing he could do for me.

      Starting in 1998, I removed what onions and garlic I thought I had to. Gradually I found my tolerance was decreasing, and so I removed more and more from my diet........ I think I managed to cut garlic and onions out of my diet completely (except for the odd mistake with items that never occurred to me that might have them, and I didn't check it out before I ate). I guess I kept my diet onion and garlic free for at least a half a year. 2 weeks ago, I risked it, and had Cesar salad dressing, and I had no symptoms!!! Yay! Maybe, just maybe I'll be able to increase my tolerance now, very slowly, bit by bit. It makes me nervous though. I'm actually scared to start trying things again. I'm the type of person who likes to try everything too, but not since this started, not with anything risky.
      It's awesome that deserts and almost all beverages (except Mott's version of V8) are all worry free foods.

      Since my teacher who is a nutritionist reassured me that it is an intolerance, and that I'm not imagining it, I decided to stop being shy and let my friends know. It is a medical need, and I know that none of my friends would wish that pain on me if they understood, so I decided it was my job to make them understand. I am perfectly fine with having a peanut butter sandwich if I'm at a friends, although they all seem to want to accommodate me. Some make a mini pot for me, and others leave the onions and garlic out completely, although lots of times, they miss it.

      Sometimes, I get a little depressed when I go to a restaurant, but there is one near me that is really tasty, and pretty reasonably priced. They seem to make everything from scratch, and they know me. As soon as I come in the door, they smile at me and say "No onions". : ) I'm really happy about that, it's Thai food, and lots of times it's difficult getting ethnic food because lots of times with the ethnic food, comes a language barrier.

      The worst are the people who tell you there are no onions (when there really are) because they just don't care, and won't take the time to look, or think, or ask the cook. That is mostly the fast food places. Although, I must say “Wendy's” in Cookstown Ont. went above and beyond for me. I was VERY impressed!
      I think dislike of onions is so common, and actual medical intolerance is so rare that people think we're just being picky. I had a few friends who were sure I was just being picky too, sometimes, it takes a lot to convince them. I had one friend who was giving me a hard time (he'd been drinking). It wasn't the first time he was bugging me about it. I got so emotional, that that night, I wrote him a 2 page letter explaining the whole thing. After he read it, he apologized to me. I didn't need an apology, I just needed him to understand so he would stop trying to get me to say I just didn't like onions. Of course he stopped.
      I'm concerned that now that I've finally convinced everyone that this is for real, that if it is starting to go away that they're all going to think I'm phony. *Sigh* I guess (if it does fade) explaining that will be my next hurdle.

      I find that lots of times the best way to communicate the problem to someone is to say “You know lactose intolerances? I'm intolerant to onions and garlic” Then they want to know what my symptoms are, but most of the time, the topic comes up before or during a meal... or I'm embarrassed to explain it to the person because I don't know them that well, lots of times, just saying “I get digestive problems” is enough, or intestinal if they persist, and “I'll tell you later” if they still persist.

      No one else in my family seems to have any allergies, except my dad with bad dust, must and mold or something. But that's pretty normal. He gets stuffy and head-achy I think.
      I also have a bad reaction to 2nd hand smoke, it gives me a sore throat, itchy watery eyes, a head ache and if it's thick enough, or for long enough, nausea and or gaging. I get a bright red, hot, itchy, blotchy rash when I take Niacin pills or when I use benzoyl peroxide.
  • Meg
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    Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sat, April 7, 2007 - 10:26 PM
    I'm the "histamine" type. I have to carry an epipen at all times, because I've had anaphylaxis at least three times as an adult, and more than that as a child. Sucks muchly. I'm allergic to the whole nine yards: leeks, shallots, garlic, onions, onion powder, irises and the root of all evil, the lily. I can't even touch the bulbs without breaking into a rash. I noted the thread on onion substitutions. Personally, I don't. Having had this allergy since childhood I've never developed the taste for onion/onion-like flavors. Oddly, I'm always on the hunt for the best ever onion ring. I've never had one, but they intrigue me. I've decided that if I ever find the perfect "world's best" onion ring, I'm going to call the paramedics, have my epi ready to go, and munch. I figure it'll be the world's most expensive onion ring as well, considering the cost of the epi, the cost of the paramedics, and the cost of the ER visit. But hey, everyone has to have a dream.

    As for the gastrointestinal symptoms, I don't really know. The histamine reaction sets in so quickly, even just from SMELLING onions (raw chopped white onions are particularly deadly for me) that I've never ingested enough to see if there are GI issues for me.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Mon, June 18, 2007 - 11:43 PM
      I had no idea lillies were related to onions. No wonder I call them "evil flowers" I can't even be in the same room with one! I can't have onion cooked or raw (although raw seems worse, and onion powder) or garlic (raw is even worse!). Only tried leek once, but I was deep in the throes of a lot of onion allergy symptoms at the time anyway, so I stay away from them as well.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Sun, October 7, 2007 - 11:15 AM
      DOH, I never connected the lilies to my allium food issues. I might have a slight allergy as well as intolerance because I get skin issues when I handle irises and lilies as well as those little white flowers (also allium) that seem to grow wildly.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Wed, April 11, 2007 - 6:02 AM
    I always hated onions with a passion growing up. Something about the texture and the flavor bothered me so I would always demand NO ONIONS whenever I ordered anything with them in it. Once in a while I would have a few onion rings but even then I wasn't a huge fan. As I got older though I started getting bored with the same old stuff in my diet and I started trying things I knew I didn't like just to see if my tastes had changed. Turns out I ended up liking quite a few things I always hated before such as olives, mushrooms, and especially onions. Strangely enough, I had a acquired these new tastes shorly after I quit smoking cigarettes regularly. I had heard that after you quit smoking you can taste food better but it seems my tastebuds changed as well. In fact there are some things I used to like that I can't stand anymore. Like cilantro, basil, and a few other things I can't think of right now...anyhow... I started noticing when I'd eat onions that I'd almost instantly start feeling nauseas but I refused to stop eating them. I did some research and found out it was likely just an intolerance and I had developed such a liking for them that I figured I'd just deal with the symptoms. Well now, about a year and a half later... I'm starting to develop other symptoms such as migraine headaches, fatigue, asthma, and dizziness. It makes me very sad because I really do not want to stop eating onions :( but I don't know if I can deal with the consequences. But to answer the question, I seem to have gastrointestinal and histimine symptoms.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Wed, April 11, 2007 - 9:40 AM
      Hello! I discovered this tribe in doing some googling on onion allergies. Now, I am 98% sure that I am allergic to onions, but I haven't been diagnosed or anything. About 2 years ago I started developing some really bad digestive problems along with some weight gain. At first it just seemed to be foods that were highly seasoned, but then even the plain food would upset my stomach. I would get really bad cramping along with serious bloating. The pressure that was building inside of me was SO painful and embarassing. I was recomended by my grandmother to take acidopholus before my meals and if that didn't help... I would always have to reach for some gas-x. Like I said this has been going on for the last 2 years and I just got to the point where I was so sick of hurting! I am the kind of person who is not a picky eater. I love ethnic foods and spices, but they don't love me. I just love to eat period!
      I recently found a web site recommending an intestinal cleansing for people who have stomach problems from IBS to extreme constipation. I felt that this site fit me to a T and I started the cleansing on March 19th. What a huge difference!! I can eat for the most part without hurting or having to take acidopholus.

      However, I still found myself feeling sick after eating foods that had either raw onions or onion powder in them. At least that's what I can pin point. My husband suggested that I try eating a couple bites of an onion on a empty stomach to see if it's truly the onion I am having a reaction to. I haven't done this yet, but I will. The symptoms that I am having after what I feel is a reaction to onions are cramping, bloating and diarrhea. I have also never been able to be in the same room with someone cutting an onion or cooking one and me cutting an onion?? Forget it! I literally tear up, my eyes burn like I just put them near bleach and they go blury and I get blinded. To me that's not normal. I have even had people tell me it's all because I don't cut an onion right, but trust me... I have been taught the many ways to cut an onion and I always have the same reaction.

      It's so refreshing to hear other people talk about this. I get blank stares when I tell people that I am trying to stay away from onions. They look at me like I am making some sort of an excuse, bu if they truly know me they know I love to eat and I especiallys love onions.

      I am so glad I found this! Yay! More people just like me! :)
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Wed, April 11, 2007 - 8:00 PM
    I'm lost and need some advice. I've become my worst nightmare.... the idiot who gets online and diagnosis herself by reading countless horrific websites (not this one... that's why I'm posting).

    My Story: Back in November 2004, I ate at a tex-mex restaurant where the salsa was divine. By the time I got home, I ran to the bathroom because my abdomen had a fire ball tearing through it. Excuse my vulgarity, but I was unsuccessful in the bathroom at relieving my pain. Nothing would relieve the pressure. This has been going on every since as I mark countless Tex-Mex and Mexican restaurants off my favorite food list one by one. Immediately I thought I was allergic to something in the salsas, so I called all the restuarants and asked for their recipes (to which they were reluctant to give out =). To much that I imagined, they all carried the same ingredients. So a year ago I finally went to a gastrologist to figure this mess out. My symptoms advanced by then to include: fatigue, bloating, constipation, and the fiery ball of death that left me close to unconscious and in a fetal position for hours until I fell asleep. He immediately diagnosed me, or what felt like an immediate diagnosis, with IBS. I took Zelnorm for two months which gave me little to no relief. A year passed and it was January 2007. I had gained about 15-20 pounds since my symptoms started occurring, and I decided to go on a more vigorous vegetarian diet to try and lose weight and help the constipation- Eat to Live (it's a book, and I highly recommend it.) You eat a ton of fresh raw to cooked veggies and fruits with little wheat and no processed food (Just about every meal I prepared had chives or onions and definitely garlic). I was feeling good, but was still tired and not shedding the pounds like I should have been and then about a month into it... I had a 3 week episode. 3 weeks of pain. After every meal, I had some variation of my symptoms. Not only did I have the fiery ball of death rip through my abdomen, but it was accompanied by painful bowel movements, nausea, cramping, extreme bloating and could last up to 12 hours. This is when I went back to my doctor and he ran a series of blood tests, an ultra sound and let me try some acid reducers. My blood work came up half positive and half negative for Celiac, which wouldn't have surprised me as my sister has a wheat intolerance. I had an upper GI endoscopy done which concluded that I did not have Celiac and I am really healthy. UGH. I say 'UGH" because I just wanted to have something, anything, well maybe not anything, wrong with me so that I can finally eat and not feel awful. I wanted to have a chance to feel normal again. At this point, I was a lost cause, especially to my doctor.

    So now here I am, looking at websites on food sensitivities and allergies and... now hypochondria. I need some advice. I need to know if anyone has this fiery ball of pain accompanied with the rest of their symptoms. I see people mentioning cramping and pain so bad that it leaves you in a fetal position on the floor crying, and geez have I had so many of those days. But I don't see the word 'fiery' or 'burning' in any of the posts, and hearing that someone else has experienced this would convince me that onions and/or garlic have been the culprit all along.

    Also, my sister is about to under go a complete food sensitivity test where she will finally find out from a doctor (officially) if she indeed has a wheat intolerance. Has anyone here taken this test or something like it?
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Thu, April 12, 2007 - 6:11 AM
      Hi Cameron,

      I have to say there have been times when the cramping would be so intense that it would definitely have me in fetal postion in pain and yes... it was probably close to a burning sensation. Would you compare the fire ball pain to having heart burn in the stomach?? If so, then I have had similar pains after eating certain foods. It doesn't happen every time. I think it depends on what foods I have eaten. Just like you, Mexican food does havoc to my system and it's a long night. Also, Indian food (which I love) makes me very sick.

      Before I started my intestinal cleansing (which I mention above) I was about to make an appointment with a gastrologist, but then I had this fear of going through all of that and dealing with spending tons of money to have someone tell me that there is nothing wrong with me.
      If you are interested in looking into it, I would highly recommend the intestinal cleansing that I am doing. It's not the cheapest, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper than going to a specialist (as you know). The web site is www.drnatura.com and the I am using Colonix. It really has made a huge difference aside from what I think is a sensitivity/allergy to onions.

      Just like you I gained 15-20 lbs during the 2 years that I developed these digestive issues and I didn't put the two and two together until recently. I would diet and exercise and not lose a pound or if I did... it was back on the next day. I have lost 4-5 lbs doing the intestinal cleansing and people keep telling me that I look great. Even though I haven't lost a ton of weight my stomach is flatter and it's like I have gotten my shape back somewhat. I'm not puffy and bloated looking all the time anymore.

      I'm so glad I found this tribe. It makes me so happy to know that I am not some freak of nature.
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Sun, April 15, 2007 - 9:16 PM
        Wow! This is so strange.... I posted a few days ago to share my experience with onion intolerance symptoms. Well I just got done eating some onions but did not experience any symptoms this time so I wanted to drop by and talk about it and then I noticed Jenna's post regarding Dr. Natura's Colonix program. I purchased a 3 month supply of the program about a year ago after having experienced severe constipation as a result of going on pain reliever medication following abdominal hernia surgery. I discontinued the program about 6 weeks in because I simply couldn't bear to choke down any more fiber shakes or pills. However, a few days ago I was experiencing severe bloating and was really miserable so I decided to take a Correctol stimulant laxative and have a fiber shake as well some of the cleanser tea that is provided as part of the Colonix program. This process flushed out my system the next day and I felt an amazing sense of relief. I had no idea though that bloating and constipation might actually contribute to the intensity of my onion intolerance symptoms. It was only when I read Jenna's post did it occur to me that it might be related.

        This is amazing!!! I just ate several slices of red onion with dinner about an hour ago and no headache, no bloating, no dizziness, nothing! The only thing I had was a little shortness of breath but not nearly as severe as usual and it's already gone. This forum is great!!! Thank you all, and thank you Jenna! I think this may have been the cure to my problem!
        • Cat
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          Thu, November 13, 2008 - 8:32 PM
          Oh my. I used to be so good about fasting at least once a year. I woudl sometimes do colon cleanses too. But in the past 6 years I have stopped (went to medical school 3 years ago), although I do eat a smoothie with apple and soaked almonds and berries for breakfast in the morning. Apparently that is not enough. I am just now checking out DrNatura per your suggestion. I will be ordering some and starting asap. Oh my, I hope this works!!! Thanks for the info!!!!
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Sun, October 7, 2007 - 11:20 AM
      "the fiery ball of death that left me close to unconscious and in a fetal position for hours until I fell asleep."

      That sounds like my experience the last time I accidentally ate some raw garlic. I usually have to avoid salsa for the same reason (raw onions).
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Fri, April 20, 2007 - 12:11 AM
    I'm intolerant and if I eat uncooked onions or excessive garlic, here's the drill:

    1. About 30-60 minutes after eating them my stomach will make gurgling noises and I may have horrible, stinky flatulence (but not always). My stomach will begin cramping and hurting excessively towards the end of this time.

    2. Between 60 and 90 minutes afterwards I'll have bad diarrhea. I'll generally have to unload at least a few times over the next half hour. Sometimes I'll have to unload for the next hour or in severe cases 2 hours. My stomach certainly rids itself of all the contents. It's like a log flume in there and the food rushes through my intestines as quickly as it can on it's onion-provoked ride.

    I don't get any other symptoms that I've noticed besides the gastrointestinal ones which are certainly bad enough. The cramping makes me feel like I want to die while it lasts. Sometimes I can tolerate a tiny bit of raw onion. If I'm feeling stressed, my stomach will have none of it, while if I'm very relaxed I can maybe do a little. Sadly, I love the taste of onions and garlic.

    Fortunately I can tolerate a small amount of cooked or powdered-type onion in sauces. I just made Chili with onion in it, and was fine, but I started cooking the onion long before browning the meat and then browned it with the meat and cooked it in the sauce. It was basically cooked into the ground and was limp and floppy, but no reaction from me.

    My intolerance has gotten worse over time. As a child I wasn't bothered by onions. My reaction seemed to increase much more after I got food poisoning and had to go to the hospital and get pumped full of antibiotics. But it also seems to be related to age and heredity.

    My father could never tolerate onions and wouldn't eat anything with them. When he was away on business trips the rest of our family would have our onion dishes. We thought he was just being odd and finicky, but I suspect otherwise now.

    A brother of mine is very intolerant to them and I am very intolerant to raw onions or slightly cooked onions in large quantity. A genetic component almost certainly exists in the case of my family. It's sad, but at least currently I can eat well cooked ones to get a little bit of the flavor without a reaction. My brother, who is older, can tolerate them less, and I get the feeling my future will be the same since we have enough genetic similarities.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Wed, May 27, 2009 - 1:56 PM
      Our family is similar. My symptoms are just as you describe, which is why I carry Immodium AD chewables with me everywhere. It reduces the severity, or at least the amount of time, for those symptoms.

      My sister and father and I are all onion intolerant.

      I married into a family with an onion allergic individual who has to be dosed with an epi-pen or large doses of antihistimines if he's exposed to onions (that includes grilling his food on a grill that had onions on it and wasn't cleaned, or putting ketchup on things).
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, May 6, 2007 - 9:00 PM
    Wow I can relate to so many of these posts. I do love onions, but as I got older I noticed more and more trouble with them. It started when I was about 25 or so I believe. I am now 49 yrs old. I used to just love everything with onions, it is hard. My boyfriend just loves to eat onions so I put them in his food.

    I don't have any trouble with garlic, that I've notice. But I will have to pay attention.

    My symptoms are: 30 min after eating, mild gurgling in my stomach. Then, increased cramping and bloated feelings. It is painful for probably 6-10 hours afterwards.

    Does anyone here believe that their headache is caused by their gassy bloating? I firmly believe that for me this is the case. I am convinced that these two are related. As soon as the gas is gone, my headache is able to start to heal.

    Unfortunately for me, I have reactivity to other foods as well, which also have increased over time. I can not eat any beans at all, nor brassicas (broccoli, cauliflower, etc), cheese (more than about 2 tablespoons are very hard for me to digest), and fatty meat. Eating out is dicey these days. Potlucks too.

    Thanks to the person here who discussed colonics. Maybe I will try this. A do at home kind, anyway. I've been gaining weight, despite the limitations on my diet.

    Recently I bought a juicer at a yard sale and I've been drinking carrot juice a few times a week. Maybe I'll step it up and try to really get back to my old hippy organic eating!

    Thanks to all of you for sharing your stories here. Some of you have been to hell and back. I wish there was a solution for this problem.
  • Maz
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    Re: what are your symptoms?

    Tue, May 8, 2007 - 4:02 AM
    My dodctor also diagnosed me with IBS (more like "don't know, don't care, get rid of trouble patient")!

    My symptoms include:
    - Bad stomach cramps and flatulence (involuntary)
    - Shortness of breath
    - Chest pains
    - Nausea
    - Headaches
    - Smell of onion from my pores for about 2 days after

    The stomach pain are the worst - would almost describe it as if glass were being passed through my bowels. Also, if I put my palm on my belly, I can feel the bowels cramping and hear them bubbling away :(

    I came to the conclusion that is had to be onions as I only got the symptoms after a meal that was cooked with oinions. Say if I made a chilli with onions - I had cramps galore; if I omitted the omoins - I was fine.

    Glad to hear that there are others out here and I'm not going nuts!
  • Jes
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    Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, May 13, 2007 - 8:15 AM
    If i eat onion just a tiny piece is enough even if it has been cooked i feel like my insides are being corroded. I feel like my mouth is on fire my throat and my stomach is about to explode. I cannot keep food down for about a week and want to sleep all the time. However this only happens with onions, chives, leeks, but not with garlic. I am addicted to garlic and put it in everything and have no side effects what so ever. I also have aloe vera plants which i use for burns and aloe vera products which cause no problem, but i do suffer a violent skin rash after eating onions it looks like a form of ecezma and can bleed if i dont put antihistimane cream on it. Lillies however send me to sleep. I cannot figure out how one has such an effect and the other does not. Also I dont know if i am allergic to onion powder, I stopped having it in fear of being ill but i dont think it has the same effect as onion, maybe the onion in its solid form is more potent.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Fri, May 18, 2007 - 10:50 PM
      It's interesting that some of us are ok with garlic and others not.

      Jes: Over time I have become more and more sensitive to onion powder. Now I can't use much catsup even because there is onion in it. The Lipton onion soup - I used to love it - but now it is impossible to even think of it.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, June 3, 2007 - 5:40 PM
    ive never liked onion so i didnt really eat them when i was young. but eventually, i realized that i should try new stuff. figured its a sign of "maturity" :-D
    anyway, when i eat RAW onion, i immediately get feverish and sluggish. theres this metallic taste in my mouth, i exhale warm air, my eyelids are warm and my eyes are watery (fever, i guess).
    i also get a cold afterwards, complete with congestion and sore throat. but it depends on how much raw onion ive eaten.
    when i have anything that has garlic, or anything that has garlic powder, my nose itches and swells a bit. its uncomfortable and funny at the same time, so its tolerable.

    :-)
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Mon, June 4, 2007 - 12:09 AM
    My allergy is only to onion as far as I know. Over the past 5 years, my allergic reactions have worsened. It started with raw, red onions only and now appears to be any onion except deep fried. The thing is my last reaction was so bad, that I don't want to chance the experiments any more.
    My reaction starts within 15 minutes of consuming my first bite of onion or food that has touched onion, i.e. if someone takes the onion off a sandwich or out of a salad. It starts with a few coughs and heavy sweating, then the coughing increases in frequency and violence. I get extremely weak and need to sit or lie down. The coughing becomes so violent that my chest and back hurt for days later. My throat swells and my saliva thickens to the point that I can barely swallow or breathe. All of this last between 15-30 minutes. For at least a full day afterward, I am very irritable, tired, and cough occaisionally. I don't want to do anything, but lay around and avoid onion.
    This entire thing annoys me, because I love onion. I was really beginning to think I was some kind of freak or something. My wife checked this website out for me and locked me on. I'm glad to see others with onion allergies, even though it sucks. I hope we can share our experiences and learn from each others reactions.
    My last reaction was 2 days ago, and I was afraid I was going to die. Although, I love onion, I won't risk eating it again.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Mon, June 18, 2007 - 11:30 PM
    Hi, I am very new. I thought I was the only person in the world who couldn't eat onions! Now I know I'm not. My symptoms are mainly GI, but I do get headaches and a bit of asthma as well. I can't eat steak that's been cooked on the bbq with onion (even on the other side) Hubby has to do the onions last (he found that out one day when I got doubled over in pain soon after starting on my steak!) Even if the food has been cooked with onion and the onion removed, I still get symptoms. Onion powder is pure murder! So is garlic and I don't even want to try leeks! Maybe some of the congestion I suffer has been due to inadvertent contact with onion.

    I find most people don't understand about it. They think onion powder is still fine and garlic too! Onion/onion powder is in the darndest things. I have found a lot of useful information here on this site. In desperation I had googled "onion alternatives" just in case there was one other person in the world who couldn't eat onions!!! My allergy developed in my early 30's, but was probably there to a lesser degree in my teens (I remember my family's hilarity after I had eaten a garlic bun!!) I'm glad they thought it was funny! I was in too much pain to share the emotion!

    My mother has stomach problems. There are things she cannot eat, but I know she eats onions, garlic, leeks, the whole works! (SIGH! I did so love the taste of barbequed onions!) I don't miss them any longer though, because I don't miss the pain.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Wed, July 4, 2007 - 12:14 AM
    Wow. I'm not alone. Severe GI distress (cramping, diarrhea) with onions (no problems with garlic). Have problems with any kind of onions, including scallions.

    No one believes me. They think I'm just difficult or "picky." To my knowledge, I am the only member of my family with this problem.

    Very strange developmental course. Don't remember eating onions as a child. Do remember eating them with no problem in college and very early 20's. Problem started around age 24 or so. At first, only raw onions made me sick, but I could tolerate cooked onions. Then cooked onions also made me sick, but I could tolerate very small amounts of onions or leeks (as an accent in a sauce, for instance), or onion powder. Then that started making me sick as well. I loathe the smell of onions because I associate onions with being ill. Strangely, as I enter my 50's, I find my onion allergy improving ever so slightly in that it seems I can tolerate very small amounts of leek (say in a quiche) or some onion powder (in prepackaged foods; I would never cook with it myself). Have gotten so severely sick from onions, however, that I would never test my tolerance with anything more.

    Indian food and Korean food are the worst, since they seem to put onions in everything. Also have a problem with a local vegan restaurant that seems to believe vegan cuisine is onion cuisine. Recently got sick from eating at a Japanese restaurant, even though I didn't remember eating anything with onions. Later found out the culprit was the salad dressing - the salad dressing was made with an onion base.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Wed, July 4, 2007 - 7:22 PM
      Hi, welcome all...

      Yes also for me, Olly, the problem developed in my 20's. I have been meaning to post my news here...

      About 2 1/2 wks ago my daughter (age 20) went to the doctor because she has been having a lot of stomachaches. (I had told her maybe it was onions.) The nurse practitioner actually saw her, and told her that since she had in the past been on antibiotics, she might need to regain the live cultures in her digestive system. She told her to buy a certain supplement. She is home from college and when she called from the store I asked her to get me a bottle of whatever it was, since my stomach problems have been getting worse in the last year.

      So the news is, my stomach is feeling a TON better. After I was on it for a week, on my boyfriend's encouragement, I ate about 3 tablespoons of a raw onion. My stomach afterwards had only very minor problems. I have now been taking this stuff for about 2 1/2 weeks and I plan to do this again and see if I can eat onion with less problems. I am also going to try to eat other things I haven't been able to eat like beans and broccoli. One weird thing when I ate the onion was -- after not having eaten onion in years -- was that my mouth just had a terrible taste of onion for hours afterwards. Wow.

      This stuff is called Probiotic Defense. It is made by the "Now" company, it is a white bottle with an orange label. I do trust the Now brand because I've taken a couple of their vitamins for about 10 years. The ingredients are different types of cultures I guess.

      Anyway, maybe this could help others here, my stomach is feeling back to normal for the first time in a long time. If you take it please let me know what you think.

      Jane :)
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Sun, October 7, 2007 - 11:23 AM
        Thanks Jane!

        It would make sense the GI issues for the people without a genuine allergy compared to intolerance. Same thing happens with broccoli, lactose, etc. I
        ll have to look for some of that stuff.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Wed, July 11, 2007 - 8:33 PM
    As a child, I always thought onions were really gross and they made my mouth 'feel funny' and gave me a runny nose which my family dismissed. This progressed to headaches, then to unbelievable gassiness, then my body added nausea, then cramps, then the burning diarrhea, then the vomiting, then hives. I have avoided all forms of onion, scallion, leek, shallot for at least 15 years now. It is so bad, even onion powder gets me. A few weeks ago I was exposed at a Mexican restaurant when a food I have eaten there many times (after discussions with the cooks) apparently was changed without my knowledge. On the drive home, I had a slight headache which I dismissed. After the cramping and subsequent evacuation in the restroom (thankfully at home!), I thought I was in the clear except for the usual feeling tired and puffy which lasts for days along with the headache. About 15 minutes later my usual hives turned into a full body rash and massive uncontrollable itching and wheezing. For the first time, I had to take Benadryl and use my inhaler. This was really frightening and I will be discussing anaphylaxis with my doctor in a few weeks. No one has EVER taken my onion allergy seriously. For years, my Mother would cook with them and pick them out. Like that would help allergy! My Mother-in-Law did the same thing so I stopped eating her food at family dinners, now she no longer speaks to us in part to this and my childrens' milk protein allergy (NOT lactose intolerance). She said I was insulting her by not trying her food. It hurt at first, but now I just don't have time for people who want to poison my family! I am really happy to find this site to discuss this issue and share recipes.
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      Re: what are your symptoms?

      Sun, July 15, 2007 - 9:07 PM
      So, I panicked today when I got to the party/brunch and found out that EVERY dish was prepared with either garlic or onions! I thought about the pain, the gas, the extreme bloating that will occur almost immediately after eating these dishes. I was so hungry that I almost didn't care, but I knew the high price of pain I would pay later. For the first time ever, I decided to try something. I asked my host for a Claritan allergy tablet. I complained that my "hayfever" was bothering me. I swallowed it with some apple juice and helped myself to some clam linguine and garlic toast with a side of onion rings (things I have stayed away from for 4 years)!! Afterwards, I sat alone waiting for the familar rumbling in my stomach. BUT.... No niose. NO bloating! 30 minutes later, no puffy gut! 1 hour later, a flat tummy still!!!! I found something that works for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I figured that if my intolerance to these 2 things is an ALLERGY, then maybe allergy medication should help. And it did!!!!!! I can't wait to try again tomorrow night with a salad dressing that contains onions and/or garlic!!!! To think that I have avoided so much food all these years and endured so much pain. I hope this works for others!! Good luck!!
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Sat, July 21, 2007 - 9:24 PM
        Elsie,

        Well I'm still on the supplement with the live cultures, so maybe it's that, but I took one of my daughter's claritin pills and it absolutely worked!!!

        I just thought that your post was too odd to be from someone trying to sell claritin, so I tried it and I just can not believe this! Thank you so much!!! As an experiment today, I had two large pieces of Costco pizza that had the works on it... including a lot of onion that was pretty much raw. No side effects. Zero.

        Thank you Elsie!!!

        If others on this site try this remedy could you please post your results?

        Thanks,

        Jane :)
        • Re: what are your symptoms?

          Sat, July 21, 2007 - 10:51 PM
          I take Claritin daily for other allergies, and it doesn't help me with the onions. :( I do carry Benadryl (another antihistamine) and take it when I accidentally eat some onion or garlic, but it doesn't really help much except for the nausea. Glad to hear this is working for some people, though!
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Mon, July 23, 2007 - 7:38 AM
    I think I fit into both catagories, but mainly catagory #2. While I am not "technically" allergic to onions - had the tests; I am definitely hypersensitive or intolorant to onions (all kinds & colors, and chives) and garlic. I get horrible sinus headaches (even my hair hurts), nausea, diarrhea, EXTREME lethargy, and a general feeling of foggieness & confusion. The ONLY way to make this go away is to sleep, sleep, sleep - and I have found that the only medication that helps me is Advil Cold and Sinus in large (unhealthy) doses. I can even smell onions in someone else's food from somewhere else in the building I work in.

    While my co-workers have been exceptionally accomodating , it is REALLY difficult to go out to eat. One thing I have learned is that I can't eat any kind of fried food if the restaurant serves onion rings. Merely frying in the same oil taints my food. While nearly all restaurants are willing to cook onion free, the fact that the onions are in the kitchen and that utensils, pots & pans, and grills have touched them makes me susceptible to some kind of reaction. I occasionally forget to ask about onions on salads, and I know if they have merely picked off the onions, as opposed to making a new one, because I can taste the juice on the lettuce. I even have to have my hubby brush his teeth and wash his face if he eats onions because the juice can get on me with a simple kiss.

    It is so good to know that I am not alone - although I am sorry that there are more of us suffering.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Sun, July 29, 2007 - 2:10 PM
      So, not knowing if this was just a "placebo effect" or not with the claritin... I talked with my friend who is a medical researcher with a pharmacology degree and has done a lot of work around allergies and things like asthma for medical reports. She immediately said, "That makes sense." I told her, well, I don't get a reaction like runny nose or breathing issues, but she said it makes sense that it would work. She explained in medical lingo but the way I understand it, when you have an allergy your body produces certain responses that trigger mucous etc. and you can have the response in your stomach or other parts of the body besides the head.

      She said the FDA has not approved of claritin or other similar drugs to be used for this purpose and that is why it is not advertised to be of benefit for these types of problems. But it made absolute, clear sense to her that it would work.

      I asked if the medicine was dangerous to use frequently and she said no she does not think so.

      Next... a big experiment with onions for me, next weekend. Onion rings! Wish me luck!

      Jane :)
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, July 29, 2007 - 7:00 PM
    I am sooo glad that it's not just me! My father-in-law used to swear I was nuts when I said I couldn't eat garlic anymore. I've been having other problems and the light bulb just went off and I thought "DUH - it's ONIONS!" This is going to kill me....I've always cooked a lot with both, but increased my onion use when I realized I could not eat garlic anymore. I can eat tiny bits of garlic in mixes, but it is a verrrry tiny bit.

    I definitely fall under the GI category. It hurts soooo bad when I've accidentally eaten garlic. I definitely have my own list of "safe" foods when we go eat, and ironically enough, can eat more at Olive Garden than at Chile's. (Apparently their food is so bland, they liberally use garlic salt on EVERYTHING!"
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, September 2, 2007 - 4:18 PM
    Hello, I've had many years of worrying symptoms which I chose to ignore. After suffering from a minor stroke 3 years ago and subsequently having to take aspirin on a daily basis (which I beleiev has exascerbated the sensitivity of my stomach lining and thus suscebtibiIity to attacks) have recently become aware that onions in cooked or raw states seem to be at the root of several problems I suffer.

    Firstly, I have suffered with migraines since my teenage years but as they are just a stabbing pain behind my right eye and seem alleviated by sleep I never associated them with 'classic migraine symptoms'- they have never stopped me going to work and I just work through then (I just assumed they were headaches until my neurologist diagnosed them after my stroke). Although other things cause my migraines such as time of the month and bands of low pressure it is not infeasible that they could also be a hidden reaction to onions. As my migraines are listed as a factor in my stroke (along with taking the contraeceptive pill) they are obviously of concern.

    For at least the last 7 years I have had frequent attacks with shortness of breath, tightness in my chest, burning pain in my abdomen which I would liken to the pains you have in labour- contraction-like - at times the pain has been so severe that I have felt like I would die if I went to sleep- it has been very intense to say the least. I have been bent double and lying down seems to aggravate the problem.

    Since becoming pregnant I have suffered with heartburn (something I have never suffered from) and my digestion seems to have suffered as a result although I feel the aspirin I have to take definately does not help. Many foods caused me problems in pregnancy and my diet became very limited- cheese and noodles, pineapple, strawberries, chilli, rice, steaks and potatoes. Pretty much everything else caused me problems so I gave it all a wide berth. Not being able to eat curries baffled me as they are a firm favourite and hot and spicy stuff was not troubling me. Heartburn has now stopped now I am a mum and I can pretty much eat anything again. I began to notice that onions were making me ill- cheese and onion crisps are a big cause (sore throats and chest pain)- raw onion is a no no, my throat swells and goes numb and swallowing becomes difficult- makes me feel like I have the flu (which is also how I feel when I get a migraine, flulike), cooked onion seems to cause the attacks with the chest pain, contractions, shortness of breath, fire pain in chest/stomach- it also seems to migrate down my left arm which is the part of body affected by the stroke (arm has pretty much recovered other than a part that feels hollow). Obviously I have cut out onions and the attacks have pretty much stopped, it just worries me how severe my reactions to onions have become.

    Due to the stroke at a young age I am obviously monitored very closely & have had numerous tests done- everything functions very well including my heart, liver, kidneys etc. I mentioned my concerns to my surgery nurse & she thought I could be bordering on anaphylactic shock and asked if I had cut onions out. My bloods had been tested and all my bloods were good- liver function, kidney fnction, cell counts, iron etc despite the pregnancy. All in all I am a generally healthy person. Does this make it an allergy rather than an intolerance? Can you get tested anywhere? Does anyone else have similar symptoms?
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Tue, September 25, 2007 - 10:48 AM
    I'd say more histamine for me, but I have a lot of GI problems with or without onion.

    I've suffered from severe migraines (I forgot the actualy diagnosis of what type of migraines, but you get the picture) since I was about 2 years old, I'm 19 today and still have about 4-8 monthly and went through a period of time of having 3 daily for 3 months. The symptoms I experience from migraines are painful to even type, but I can't see, speak, feel, I puke, and I feel like i'm going to die. It took me a really long time to narrow things down and figure out that the biggest culprate of them all, except for natural occurances (like weather), was actually onion. I never knew you could actually be allergic to absolutely anything that exists until recently. I didn't call my onion intolerance an allergy until my throat closed last summer while working (delayed anaphylaxis- it happened over a few hours, it wasn't immediate) and I was taken out of the mall by the paramedics (through the food court, no less) on a stretcher. So I think I'll definitely go with histamine. :(
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Sat, September 29, 2007 - 10:11 AM
      I am so glad to find more people with the same problem as me. I have the GI symptoms and only to onions. I can tolerate a small amount of onion occasionally. It will just make me feel bloated and uncomfortable. If I have too much or too often, I get the severe cramps and diarhea until it is out of my system. I found that simethicone helps some. One thing that bothers me is peoples' attitudes who do not understand this ,and there seems to be many of them. They either think I am just being picky or don't like onions when I ask for "no onions" or ask if onions are in the food. Some people even think it is funny. I had one man tell me he could understand an intolerance to gluten but an intolerance to onions was the funniest thing he had ever heard.

      It took me a long time to figure out it was the onions causing my problems. I knew it happened often after eating Mexican food or pizza. I had to just try eliminating certain foods until I knew what it was. I do not know how long I have had this. When I was a child, I loved onion rings but they always made me sick. My mother thought I ate too many.
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Sun, October 7, 2007 - 11:28 AM
        "One thing that bothers me is peoples' attitudes who do not understand this ,and there seems to be many of them. They either think I am just being picky or don't like onions when I ask for "no onions" or ask if onions are in the food."

        You are not alone. I would guess everyone posting to this board has gotten weird looks and/or comments even from friends and family.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Mon, December 31, 2007 - 3:02 PM
    I replied here - and it disappeared when I went to submit!

    So - reader's digest version this time...

    GI - gurgles shortly after eating, bloating, cramps, gas, diarrhea. Sometimes the whole thing within 15 or 20 mins of eating.

    It has increased in severity since my 20s. Differently from most of you, I could tolerate raw over cooked to begin with. Also could tolerate green onions for a while. Sometimes I can tolerate a small amount of onion powder, but not always. I CAN tolerate chives and garlic, thankfully.

    If an antihistamine works for some people's GI symptoms, does that not put them in the histamine category as well as GI? I'd sure like to know I could take Claritin and eat out without fear, but ... the idea of testing it and it NOT working has me hesitant. I'll have to get brave and try it sometime - when I'm at home!

    My mom doesn't digest onions well, but she does not suffer like I do. My sister had a little trouble for a while, but I think she feels she built up her tolerance by adding them back to her diet. Again, she did not have the same degree of reaction, just a little discomfort, I think.

    Okay, lets see if I can post this time!
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Thu, January 3, 2008 - 8:46 PM
      Barb,

      It appears this claritin solution doesn't work for everyone. But here it is several months later and I still am now able to eat onions if I start by taking one claritin copycat pill. For me it is a miracle, really.

      If you decide to try it please post here to let us know since I am curious. My brother has this allergy but hasn't tried it, I think he is deathly afraid of onions at this point.

      Gradually increasing onions into my diet surely did not work for me unfortunately - your Mom is lucky.

      Well take care Barb and thanks for the post about your experience..

      Jane :)
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sat, January 5, 2008 - 3:03 PM
    I worked for many years in a rural third world region and got a lot of parasites. For years I thought I wasn't getting rid of the parasites because I had constant GI problems. As a vegetarian, I probably was eating onions everyday in everything.

    Finally after thousands of hours of doctors appointments, I got a referral to a food allergist who said I might be allergic to: onions, garlic, tomatoes, green peas and lamb.

    I did an elimination diet and thankfully the only ones that bother me are onions and green peas. Garlic is fine.

    After having eliminated onions from my diet a year and a half ago, I have stopped getting colds. I used to get sick every fortnight it seemed, but it's been a year since I've had even the most minor sniffles. Sinus infections have disappeared almost entirely, too.

    If I accidentally have onions, my stomach instantly swells out with air about 8 sizes of clothing. I get severe cramps which I can only describe as feeling like nails in the stomach.

    Two questions for the group: Anyone know a brand of Worcestershire sauce that doesn't have onion powder?

    More importantly, are there any cases of people "training" themselves to eat onions again.

    When I do have a reaction to onion, I take Singulair. It works much better for me than any other anti histamine.

    Nice to have found this tribe, thanks to the organizer.
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      Re: what are your symptoms?

      Tue, January 8, 2008 - 3:12 AM
      My husband just sent me this link - I had no idea there were others like me. I was diagnosed 2 yrs ago (after 2 yrs of mis-diagnosis) with Oral Allergy Syndrome and just a few months ago with Eosinophilic Entritis. My main allergies are onions & eggs (but I have other food allergies including peaches, cucumbers, chocolate and a few others). I'm on an elimination diet and haven't had the nerve to try garlic yet. I do get anxiety about trying out new foods. At first, I started out being able to have small amounts of onion powder in things (dressing, mainly). Over the last 2 yrs, it has gotten so bad that I can't even smell onions or touch a pan they were cooked in without getting a reaction. My reaction starts within one hour of touching or smelling - bloating and the inability to swallow. Then pain in my chest and dry heaving. If I can catch the reaction in time, 2 zyrtec work for stopping it within an hour. Zyrtec is the only antihistamine that has anti-eosinophilic properties. There is a yahoo group I belong to for people with eosinophilic disorders (including diarrhea, intestinal issues, etc.). There's a great website about them & the conditions - apfed.org.

      My dr just started me on Flovent to see if that helps the EE. I've only been on it 3 weeks, so we'll see how that helps in the long run.

      I am a vegetarian and my diet is severely limited. It is nice to find others in similar situations.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Tue, January 8, 2008 - 11:08 AM
    Hi Gayle,

    gastrointestinal is the most obious symptom I have, and yes, sometimes headaches or post nasal drip accompany the ingestion of onions and garlic. I also find issues with tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, and beef. If I avoid all edible plants in the nightshade family and cook any red meat to the leather state, I tend to have little or no sympytoms. When we go out to eat it can be a crap shoot as to how I'll feel in a few hours or the next day. I tend to choose very bland foods; or eat what I cannot tolerate and hide out for a day or two to digest away from others.

    maggie
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Wed, January 9, 2008 - 10:17 PM
    I am so happy to have found this set of postings. I have had a severe garlic intolerance for approximately 10 years. I'm starting to have symptoms with onions and chives. I have also been through the IBS route, with doctors dispensing medications , but it never made sense to me that I had a general stomach condition. I could go out one night and eat a steak and drink wine and feel perfectly fine and another day I would have a salad and be in severe GI distress. Eventually I ended up in the ER and figured out that it was garlic.

    My symptoms are a mix of GI and Histamine. Depending on whether it's fresh garlic or garlic powder and the amount I've eaten I will have severe GI stress and urgent need for the bathroom. Then I get very congested and when I wake up I have dark circles under my eyes and extreme puffiness. I don't breathe well when I sleep. I do often feel irritable, cranky and sometimes very forgetful but I usually assume that it was because I'm not getting adequate sleep when I'm congested. It was interesting to see that the mood issue may be related to this condition. I break out in hives on occassion but it doesn't seem connected to the garlic ingestion.

    I found out I have a severe dust allergy and am developing other wierd food intolerances (vinegar, mango and walnuts in salad dressing) and I think I have traced my leg edema to eating white flour. If I stay away from white flour my feet/legs don't swell. I'm also now feeling sick if I use or smell certain cleaning products, colognes, etc. The doctor said it might be because my nose is damaged from the long-allergy condition and more vulnerable to smells.

    I read here that someone lost weight after changing to a garlic free diet, but I've gained 25lbs. Because I'm so scared to be sick at work or out to dinner the easiest things to eat on the fly are usually fattening foods (bagels, cookies, etc.) that don't have garlic. Since I love garlic I will occassionally eat a little but then it's always hell.

    This whole late onset of food intolerances/allergies experience has been very annoying and embarassing, particularly because people tend to think it's psychosomatic. I don't have any other health issues.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, January 13, 2008 - 10:58 PM
    hmmm... I've been finding the last few years that as much as I like garlic, it's a gaseous veg. and sometimes makes my stomach feel weird...
    As for onions, I've always hated them, so I avoid eating them as much as possible and get harassed for picking them out of things, but they're potent things and have always been a turn-off for me... They seem somewhat tolerable in some things if they're overcooked enough that I can't taste them and they're less notice-able, but even the scent of raw onions being chopped (or having been chopped) gives be feelings of nausea and sometimes a bit of a headache to correspond with it. Because I don't eat raw onions, I don't really know what they'd do to me inside. My aunt has found herself to be allergic to onions and garlic (I don't know if she's self-diagnosed or whether a dr. did it).
    Would these reactions to the smell of it indicate an intollerance?
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Sun, January 13, 2008 - 11:02 PM
      oh... and I don't seem to have a problem with onion and garlic salt (that I know of)... They seem to have different properties.
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Sun, January 13, 2008 - 11:18 PM
        most of you seem to have severe reactions... Is it possible to be BORDERLINE intolerant to onions and/or garlic?
        To what degree do they start small and get bigger over time?
        Does sensitivity increase, the more of it is consumed?
        I guess the reason I don't know to what degree there may be a problem with onions because the most I consume would be trace amounts that I miss removing from cooked items and salsa where the onions have been cooked excessively and I dip in, but usually avoid the chunks... (cucumbers and peppers disagree with my dad)... Would my feelings of minor GI after larger amounts of garlic be any indicator of how my body might react to onions?
        • Re: what are your symptoms?

          Mon, January 21, 2008 - 11:20 AM
          Deb, yes I think one can be borderline intolerant, since sometimes my body can handle very small amounts of onion. And yes, this can definately worsen over time, it really got much worse for me over the past 30 yrs, from age 20-50. I used to be ok with eating catsup, but now I can only tolerate it if I take my claritin copycat pill first.

          And it is other foods as well. I also choose "bland" foods many times, in order to be safe. There are a multitude of foods that over time I have become sensitive to in various ways.

          Sometimes I wonder if my body doesn't produce enough stomach acid to digest foods properly. Does anyone have an idea about this?
          • Re: what are your symptoms?

            Fri, February 1, 2008 - 7:10 AM
            When I eat garlic, I get dry mouth, thirsty, bloated at first. then I usually get sever stomach cramps followed by diarhea and nausea.

            I actually had a reaction last night. We ordered pizza, pasta with garlic and oil and garlic bread.

            I was in the bathroom from 1am to 2am and then except for a slight sore stomach the next day, my reactions are gone.

            What I usually take is TUMS or pepcid or if I can get a hold of it, acifix. The TUMS I usually take 2 pillsabout 30 minutes after eating garlic or when I notice my thirst and dry mouth. For the most part, it helps my allergic reactions to be kept to a minimum.

            This may work for some, may not work for others, but I just wanted to post my finds as I have been dealing with this for years.

            Take care.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, February 3, 2008 - 1:05 AM
    This group has taken a massive weight off my mind- just knowing that the range of symptoms I present is actually attached to something that I can control.

    I have a combination of GI symptoms and the histamine symptoms- the latter have been becoming more pronounced recently.

    I love onions and used to cook with them every day with no side effects. When I left university I started having problems with onions. It was around the same time as I started going running and I often wondered if there was a link between the two. Are there any journals or articles anyone can recommend so I can find out more?

    I was also very interested to read the post about insomnia- is anyone else experiencing that as a symptom?
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    Re: what are your symptoms?

    Wed, February 27, 2008 - 2:56 PM
    I can't eat any amount of onions, shallots or scallions, wether raw or cooked. I get bloated, cramps, flatulence, nausea, exhaustion and migraine. Also, the bad taste and persiration lasts for a couple of days. However, I can still tolerate very small amounts of cooked leeks, and powder onions though. I wasn't intolerant to garlic, but now I'm starting to feel the same symptoms as with onions :(
    It all started in my late 20's and it's getting worse, I'm now intolerant to lactose, wheat and other stuff. My diet is pretty limited now.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Fri, March 14, 2008 - 6:57 PM
    Definitely gastrointestinal: bloating, diarrhea, nausea, flatulence, constipation. Also histamine: headaches, fatigue, irritability. This is a shock and surprise, because I love onions and garlic and my husband and I try to use as many as we can whenever we cook, thinking we are doing something good for ourselves and not until recently beginning to suspect they could be the cause of my debilitating ( in bed, in agony) symptoms.
    I am thrilled to find the possible cause of my suffering, although I realize it will be hard to change our style of cooking and my penchant for trying new foods and priding myself on eating anything and everything. But the pain and inability to function is a pretty vivid reminder and a big inspiration to try a new way of life.
    I appreciate everyone's sharing their experiences. By the way, I am older (56) and I don't know when this started, just gradually slipped up on me, I guess, and my doctor said I had irritable bowel syndrome. Just before I found this site I was in tears, in so much pain and frustrated trying to deal with the doctor who wanted to give me medicine without a clear diagnosis (antibiotics because I MIGHT have diverticulitis) and another drug to treat the nausea. You guys are great and very helpful! Thanks a million!
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Mon, March 24, 2008 - 11:10 AM
    Hi I'm a newbie to the group. And I'm so pleased to find I'm not alone..... It's good to meet you.

    I am very intolerant of onion. Even onion powder in a minor ingredient gets a bad reaction. I have to avoid anything with vegetable stock that contains onion.I've avoided all onion since 1998 when a doctor suggested my GI problems (severe abdominal cramping, flatulence constipation and diarrhea) were triggered by onions. Now if onion gets into my food (say by juice on a kife that then cuts something I am to eat) I also get chest tightening which can last about 12-24 hours. But I also get very tired and lethargic which can be really fustrating. Leek is getting to be a problem though not quite as bad. I can eat small amounts of garlic with only minor discomfort. Peppermint oil can help a bit.

    My gran suffered with onions too-although it wasn't diagnosed with her. She simply tried to avoid eating onion because it upset her digestive system. I have found while many people can be sympathetic there are those who think I'm making it up. But then again they'd dismiss anything they hadn't experienced for themselves so that's their problem.

    I have been vegetarian for nearly 20 years and it can be a challenge. I find Italian food from the Tuscan region can be prepared entirely onion free and I' m experimenting with lots of recipes so I will let you know.

    Sara
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, March 30, 2008 - 3:14 PM
    After couple of years of pain and having to leave restaurants in the middle of some meals, I figured out that I was intolerant to garlic and onions (garlic is so bad, I can't have any, I can have a bit of onions). Since, I'm doing much better and as long as I know what I eat, I'm never sick, but I usually get sick if I go to some restaurants (that I didn't pick) or go eat to someone else place. My biggest problems is that I find people not supportive at all, I think most people don't believe me, mostly because it's so rare.

    I never too anything to reduce the symptoms, but I think I will give a try to Gas-X to see if it can help (sometimes the pain is so strong that I barely can walk anymore).
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, April 6, 2008 - 3:08 PM
    I think im more histamine. Whenever I eat Onions I get a really bad migraine, sensitvity to light, vomiting, cold sweats, nasuea, fatigue, I feel like i cant lift my head fully. I get this overwhelming sense of pressure in the from of my head , top nose and temples. I get cramps somtimes also.
    I dont understand this problem really because I used to be able to eat onions with no problems before now I cant even eat somthing if it had Onions on it. I get so sick that I cant do anything, just lay in bed with all the lights off and absoulte peace and quiet!
  • Can you be tested?

    Mon, April 21, 2008 - 8:13 PM
    Thanks for this thread Gayle. I am so relieved that I am not alone. So far, I have fairly severe reactions to raw and cooked red onions. I have more mild discomfort with other onions. And I don't think garlic bothers me, but I'm going to start to pay attention more.
    Several people mentioned that they had no problem when they were children, and that it developed in their 20s. Me too. I'm 27, and I've only recently realized that I have a serious problem. I JUST decided to cut our red onions on my own, and then wondered "I wonder if I can find out anything online about this?"
    I would say I'm mostly gastrointestinal, with a mix of histamine. I get SEVERE stomach cramps if I have a few pieces of red onion. I can think of 2 instances in the past few years where I was little on the floor in the fetal position with a rigid stomach, whimpering. Those were the only times I've had somewhat large pieces/amounts of red onions. Otherwise, I've been picking small pieces out of dishes and been mostly fine. Until recently! On a few occasions recently, I had dishes that had small pieces of red onions. I picked them out, maybe accidentally ate one tiny piece, and ended up quite sick. Not bowled over on the floor, thank goodness, but bad enough.
    My symptoms proceed thusly:
    1. Very shortly after consumption: fuzzy-head... not thinking quite properly.... moving towards a headache-y feeling
    2. Headache. Red cheeks that become bumpy, like hives. Itchy neck and cheeks, chin/jaw. Also the red onion takes on a metallic flavor in my mouth. And for a very long time afterwards, I have this metallic onion flavor in my mouth that will not go away and contributes to the feeling of nausea that begins to overwhelm.
    3. Nausea, gassiness, and diarrhea (if it's not a BAD case). If it's a BAD case, I get:
    serious stomach cramps that leave me on the floor, holding my stomach, in tears. When that EVENTUALLY calms down, THEN I get the gassiness and diarrhea, which is a WELCOME feeling in comparison, cause at least you know your body is expelling the problem.

    So reading these posts have made me wonder: can an allergist test for this? If so, can anything be done to help? Yes, I saw that people were taking Claritin, etc. but I take Claritin D every day anyway (in the Spring, Summer and Fall) because I am allergic to flowers, pollen, hayfever, and very badly allergic to cut grass. I have an instant histamine reaction to cut grass where my throat feels like it's closing and I can't breathe. I start to have heaving coughs. As soon as I get away from the cut grass (someone mowing the lawn), I'm fine. Needless to say, Spring/Summer can be difficult. This is another one I've never been tested for, though, and as I get older, and I think it gets worse, I worry that maybe I should have an epipen.... Anyway, the reason for mentioning all that is because I take Claritin for those allergies, and clearly it does not help with the red onion problem. I wonder if an allergist can test for the red onion, maybe I could be tested for cut grass as well....

    Additionally, no one has mentioned this, so I'll just throw it out there: does anyone else have an allergy to red wine? I know that can be sulfites or tannins. Either one. I've read up on both of those, but there are other foods that fall into those categories which I have no problem eating/drinking, so I don't think those are my problem. My red wine reaction is similar to my red onion reaction, so until I saw this thread, I thought the reason might be linked. The glaring difference with the red wine, though, is that I don't have the stomach cramps, gas, and nausea. I DO have the headache, red cheeks that lead to hives and itchiness on cheeks, neck and jaw... and I get incredibly sleepy (normal for wine, I know), and out of it, and nauseaus.... and that is if I just have, say, half a glass!
    Anyone else have this too? I'm wondering if there is any chance of them being related.

    Thanks!!!
    Laura
    • Re: Can you be tested?

      Sat, April 26, 2008 - 6:47 PM
      Hi, I am new here. I just found this when I finally was fed up with my condition and wanted to see if there was any information on the internet about an intolerance to onions and I found this. I have never been able to eat onions. I am in my 30's and my intolerance has just gotten worse since my late teens/early 20's. If I eat any onion at all I will have effects. The only onions I can eat are ones that have been cooked in soup or stew for hours and are virtually cooked into nothing. Any other onions will leave me with severe stomach cramps and running for the bathroom repeatedly until there is no food in my system what so ever. It is very annoying.

      I am posting to ask if anyone else has tried Kaopectate? As soon as I feel the horrible cramping start I take a dose of Kaopectate and then if I need to in a half an hour I take another. This method usually makes the cramping stop within 30-45 minutes. Without the medicine I will have cramping for hours. If I take the Kaepectate at the very first sign of problems they usually don't get so bad. I even keep a bottle of Kaopectate in my car usually so that if I am at a restaurant, I can get some as soon as we leave if I am feeling bad. It has really helped me a ton since I started doing this.

      I thought I was the only person who suffered from this. My family thinks I am just picky about eating onions and my mother in law refuses to leave onions out of her cooking because she likes onions and I should just get used to eating them. Raw onions are the worst and I try not to ever let any get into my system. Cooked onions will tear up my insides as well though, so I do try to watch what I eat. We had dinner at my neighbors and although they know I have an intolerance they still cook with onions. You will never find an onion in my kitchen because I can't eat them. My in-laws get so upset when they come over and there are no onions to cook with. People just think it is all in my head, but when I eat something that has onions in it and I don't know there are onions in it and I get very sick and then ask if there were onions and find out there were, that doesn't sound like it is all in my head to me.

      Thank you so much for there being others out there with this same problem! I am glad I have found this group and plan to read more of the posts on here in the coming weeks.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sat, May 3, 2008 - 11:25 AM
    My reaction to onions is mostly of the gastrointestinal group, though I have some minor histamine reactions.

    I can't eat solid onion. I'm always very careful when trying a food I'm unsure of because if onion gets to the back of my throat I have an immediate vomit reflex. On the rare occasions I have swallowed food containing onions I feel miserable until it inevitably comes up. Leek I can handle in small amounts, garlic I can enjoy as long as it's not solid or potent. Eating either will cause me some stomach pain and mild sensitivity for a while.

    The smell causes me some minor headaches and if anyone in my house makes juevos rancheros or something of the sort using onions I smell it for days.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Thu, May 8, 2008 - 6:15 AM
      Hi all, just found this site and have been reading all the posts on onion allergies etc.

      I myself have been having stomach cramps followed by diarrhea for many years, since 15/16 years old. I have only recently had a food allergy test done (31 years old) and they highlighted a few food allergies, anyway I elimated the milk, cheese, coffee, orange and lemon to find that it is onions. It all makes sense now.

      If I have pizza, indian food, onion rings, I have the problems and can actually remember times when this occured and what I ate.

      I have been a good few months now without any episodes, i.e. I have left onions out of my diet and been using leek instead in bolognaise etc, I seem ok with garlic and have lots.

      I also seem ok with spring onion but have not been chancing it too much to honest.

      I only found this site as I ate an onion baji last night to test, I am currently taking Chewable Acid Offolous (typo?) tablets which I get from Holland & Barrett (health food shop in the UK), which supposidly give me good bacteria. I would say these only seem to have worked in terms of extending my time in not having cramps/diarrhea as normally I get the problems half hour after eating, but this time it took 16 hours..!?!?! Still felt as bad and now I feel weak as I am empty...

      I LOVE ONIONS TOO....!!

      I feel so sorry for you guys with this problem and the guys who suffer worse.

      My worst problem at it's worst is being stuck on a coach or train and the cramps/diarrhea comes, not a good situation.

      Cheers
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Fri, June 6, 2008 - 12:07 AM
        A few people have asked about insomnia - interestingly this is the only issue that I have been able to identify in my 2.5 year old son. He very well could have other symptoms that he is unable to tell me about! He has never been a good sleeper, but over the past year developed this habit of occasionally waking in the night and having a *very* difficult time getting back to sleep, as in 1-2 hours of us both being awake in the middle of the night, which makes for a very cranky mommy! He has other allergies and intolerances, but after eliminating nearly all of the possible offenders from our diets (dairy, wheat, soy, corn, etc.) we still had the sleep issue. Since this problem seems to really come and go, I felt pretty sure it was food related and became determined to solve the puzzle - I think we've finally done it! I had identified a number of things that didn't seem to connect, until I zeroed in on garlic. Then this week, I made a special batch of garlic-free soup, not yet making the onion connection - we ate it for lunch for two days and had two terrible nights, then didn't eat it for two days, and have since slept right thru!

        I sympathize with those of you who don't have understanding friends and family. I have had Oral Allergy Syndrome for 15 years or so, and my husband (and now my son) are peanut-allergic, so this is nothing new to me. I think the idea of garlic/onion intolerance came to me sooner because a good friend has this allergy. Hers progressed over time from sensitivity to raw garlic etc. to now having a full-on analphalactic reaction to any amount, cooked or raw. I am more than happy to alter my recipes to suit her when she is coming to my home, or we go out to a potluck at a mutual friend's house. I think it is a good solution to simply advise the hostess that you have allergies and will bring a dish of something that you can safely eat. Eating out is another matter, but hopefully this will not turn into something more serious for my son and we may still be able to indulge from time to time.

        I didn't see it mentioned here in my quick scan of posts, but some people find that N.A.E.T. treatment can be very effective for treating allergies and intolerances. This year I did a round of treatments for hay fever and I am enjoying a medication-free spring so far (I think removing dairy from my diet has also helped). I plan to try this for my son's peanut allergy when he is a little older.

        My pet peeve today is the infamous "spices" ingredient - I just emailed the maker of my favorite curry powder to find out whether I have to avoid it too :-( (if it is onion/garlic free, I'll post it here - they do mail-order!)
  • Sue
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    Re: what are your symptoms?

    Thu, June 19, 2008 - 7:28 PM
    I just found this post, and I have to say what so many have said. I don't feel alone anymore. I am in my 40's, and in my 20's I started getting real sick. It took 2 years, but they figured out I was allergic to Onions. They ended up doing a test where they put juice of an onion on my skin, and it burned so quickly they had to stop the test and put medicine on it.

    I have since learned to eat without it, although I have learned that in small doses, I can tolerate onion powder or salt, and I only get migraines and digestive problems. When I eat an onion, or food that has the juice of an onion on it, I immediately take migraine medicine, because i get a severe migraine with vomiting, etc., and then within the next hour or so I have all sorts of other "digestive" problems. (keeping it nice). For the next few hours I start to have muscle spasms over all my body, and I don't sleep much the first 8 hours or so. The last time I accidentally ate a piece of onion, I started getting dizzy, and almost passed out at the restaurant. Then my throat started to feel constricted and I had some trouble breathing, but by the time i got home, and everything else started, that went away.

    I have learned to make my own mayonnaise, ketchup (did you know some use onion salt in there! ) Mainly I know when I am getting bad stuff when I get headaches. What gets me now isn't the blatant stuff, it's the hidden stuff. Labels that say "natural flavors" or chicken that is sold that is "broth infused." I have since learned that many chicken companies use onion to make the chicken broth.

    I don't eat a lot of potluck meals, and I call a lot of managers at restaurants before I go to make sure I can eat something there, but mainly I stick with "non-marinated steaks" and breakfast foods" or like a previous post, I go to wendys', where they know "no onions" or to the local subway and penn station when they scrape the grill and clean the utensils for me... but otherwise, it's a lot of home cooking.

    I am also italian, so I have learned to make certain dishes without onion or garlic. My family still eats theirs, and i have mine, but I don't touch the onion or garlic, and cook my portion in different pots. I even order my tomato base from a company in New Jersey, because so many of the companies on the shelf start with a paste that has onion.

    Thank you for this list....Before today, I had only heard of 3 others that had this type of allergy, and only one close to being as severe as mine. It would be great if they could come up with an pill or a shot that would stop this type of allergy. but until then, I'll keep up with the lists. I see there is a recipe post too....yea!!!!
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Tue, January 13, 2009 - 8:57 PM
      Wow, what a great thing to discover this community! I too have felt lonely, ridiculed, and like I was just being picky or weird.

      I think I've had onion allergy ever since I was a kid. I remember as a child never being able to help my mom cut onions because I would cry so hard and painfully when the vapor got in my eyes. Ever since my teenage years I've had to cope, pick the onions out, or beg for my food to be made without them.

      It's also a revelation to read of people having symptoms associated with flowers like lillies! I've often experienced severe allergic reactions to the pollen of lillies, but I just lumped it in with my other allergies (dust mites, dogs, cats, etc). Now I can recall that it was stronger than my other nasal/sinus/eye reactions.

      For the bulk of my reactions, I can definitely say my symptoms are GI, not histamine. (I guess I've had my fair share of irritability, headaches, and grogginess / drowsiness, but I think this is just what normally happens when I'm in pain from the GI symptoms!)

      My symptoms seem to be triggered NOT by garlic, only by onions. Cooked or raw. Onion, scallions, leeks, spring-onions, etc., all give me painful symptoms. Sometimes I can eat it if it is cooked to obliteration. But merely carmelizing the onions does not prevent them causing me great pain and GI symptoms.

      Onion powder is the worst! The three or four times in life I've eaten onion soup, I felt I was gonna die! You might as well just stick a fork in me and turn me over, cause I'm done! Horrific gas, bloating, severe pain. Within 20 minutes! I hate to be explicit, but the flatulence reeks of sulphur: One day I noticed that I seemed to be having a GI reaction to molasses, too, which contains sulphur. Ever since then, I've avoided molasses just as fearfully as I've avoid onions.

      Oddly, I'm pretty sure that garlic does not give me the same problems. Yes, I notice my breath reeks for a day or two, and my body-odor, too. But honestly, I think this is just because I am overly sensitive to the smell, given how religiously I avoid onions and other alliums.

      One summer studying abroad where I had no little control over my diet, I learned that I could tolerate onions if I ate them with beef. I reckon that my stomach gets geared up to digest the beef, and the strong acids just destroy whatever it is in the onions that hurts me so badly. No such luck with chicken. I've never tried pairing onions with pork, etc. But now that I think about it, I recall an authentic Chinese meal where I ate scallions with fatty duck and I think I got away with it.

      What do I take to relieve the symptoms?
      As a youngster (teens and twenties) I used to chew maalox or tums when I knew I had to eat onions. It didn't really help very much, so I quit. More recently, I've tried to take strong tea of chamomile, and that seems to help. Ginger also helps. And I've read that fennel and anise seeds are very good for indigestion (you often see them at Indian restaurants, in a little bowl by the exit).

      When I get the gas so bad I feel like calling 911 (doubled-over on the floor in pain), it helps to do yoga. www.abc-of-yoga.com/yogaprac...eving.asp These gentle stretches and movements seem to help massage the gas out. Sometimes I get relief by just rolling around on the floor, or inverting my body in the "shoulder stand" pose: www.abc-of-yoga.com/yogaprac...stand.asp

      I'm intrigued to read about using antihistamines to prevent a symptomatic reaction in the first place. I'll try that sometime!

      I'm also interested in trying dietary approaches. Because I have so many dietary sensitivities (onions, most fruits and juices, acid foods, sugar, corn syrup, tomatoes, cheese, milk, brassicas {broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts}) I am planning to explore gluten intolerance. I have read that some folks with celiacs disease have been able to "heal" their gut, and then return to eating some things they previously could not eat. Maybe if I avoid gluten long enough, my gut will return the favor by letting me eat some other things. Doing without milk and cheese is so easy compared to the chore of avoiding onions: They're everywhere!

      Thanks to everyone who shared their experience! And big thanks to the angel who set-up this 'tribe'!

      Cheers!

      John
      • Re: what are your symptoms?

        Mon, January 19, 2009 - 2:50 PM
        I was surprised to find so many people intolerant to onion. I thought there were no others besides me! I am only intolerant of fresh onion, leeks, or other onion types. My symptoms, however are completely different than any I've seen here. About 4 hours after eating the tiniest bit of onion, the calves of my legs start aching (my warning that things are going to get much worse). Then my hands and feet swell. My heartbeat gets slower and slower. My heart pounds each beat. I get terrible vertigo and cannot stand. My doctor has no solution other than to avoid onions at all costs. I don't know what the reaction does chemically to my body. I am very scared about ever getting any onion because I don't know what a medical solution would be. The only thing I have ever found that helped was drinking water and drinking water and drinking water. It lessens the symptoms (doesn't completely alleviate them) and I can feel a little better. The aftereffects last for a day or two....minor vertigo and just a sick feeling. Each episode has been worse than the one before. My constant vigilance has kept me from ingesting onions for about 7 years, but I've come close to getting onion even though I tell the restaurant it is a VERY SERIOUS situation. I still get onions on occasion and when I say I am allergic to onion I often get, "I don't think it has any." That's when my husband says, "If it does have onion bits or juice in any part of the recipe, you will be calling 911!" They finally listen and check. Grocery shopping takes me longer because I have to read all the labels. I also hate the constant vigil I have to keep at eating establishments because I know it annoys waitresses and waiters, but I have to do it if I am ever going to go out to eat.
        • Re: what are your symptoms?

          Mon, January 19, 2009 - 2:58 PM
          I wanted to add that if you live near Denver, CO, there is a restaurant downtown, VESTA GRILLE, that is quite unique. I told them the usual line of death if I'm given onion. The waiter said, "Oh, just a minute." He brought a MENU titled MENU ITEMS THAT CONTAIN NO ONION!!!! I was dumbfounded. Pretty surprising and puzzling. It was great to have the pick of foods without onion. ***I still searched my food to make sure, though : )
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Thu, July 3, 2008 - 11:43 AM
    I get a type of insomnia from onions and garlic. Especially onions. Raw onions give me a violent nightmare filled sleep which has me up within 4 hours feeling like I got hit by a bus. Cooked onions are the same without the agitation and nightmares - I just wake up within 4 hours of sleeping feeling terrible. Garlic is similar maybe a little less intense. At first I thought it was tomatoes (as well as wheat, dairy, vinegar, yeast , soy etc) - the whole nightshade thing as I would get the effect from salsa or tomato sauce but then I realized raw tomatoes wouldn't do it. I finally figured out it was the onions and garlic chopped up in the sauce. The thing is, I can't stand onions or garlic, neither the smell or taste. Never liked them and don't understand people's attraction to them. They just seem to overpower perfectly good tasting food with a nasty sulphur tatse... It is very difficult to avoid these two, you really have to home cook and avoid certain foods completely in order to avoid them properly.

    Anyway, the insomina effect was causing other problems - like fibromyalgia kinds of symptoms - muscle pain, fatigue, blood sugar problems etc I guess because I wasn't sleeping properly. I'm starting to feel better, and many other symptoms are clearing, mainly I think because my sleep has improved tremendously.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Thu, August 7, 2008 - 6:40 AM
    I definitely have all the usual GI symptoms that everyone else seems to have so I'll just say "see above!". I seem to have gotten steadily more sensitive over the past 10years and now if I get symptoms I can nearly always trace it back to something I ate 4 - 5 hrs earlier that on further inspection will be found to contain onion in some form (usually powder). It's like clockwork so I figure so I guess the problem is mainly in my gut and not in my stomach (I don't get sick).

    When the really bad cramps are coming over in waves I freeze or I find myself crouched down or in the foetal position telling who ever is with me "Don't touch me! Don't touch me!" until it's passed! All my friends at Uni had to be told about my dodgy bowels and we had a good laugh about it which helped enormously with any embarassment when I had an 'episode'.

    When eating out I've learnt to be careful with gravy on roast dinner, for example, (I take my own gravy granules - Tesco's own brand are onion-free) and I'm wary of cheap ketchup and baked beans that almost certainly contain onion powder.

    Anyway, I digress. I have found that Colpermin (peppermint oil capsules) which I get on prescription taken before a suspect meal greatly relieves the gut spasming.
  • Kim
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    Re: what are your symptoms?

    Fri, August 29, 2008 - 10:39 PM
    My symptoms are GI related and only with garlic. If I can taste it in the food, then it's too much. My husband and I ate Italian alot and when I was pregnant with my first child, I usually was in pain and running to the toilet before we got the bill. It finally clued in to me that it may be the garlic. After that, I was very careful in what I consumed. The pain and diarrhea last for hours and when I think there can't be anything left....I am back running. I haven't experienced the other symptoms but I do have other allergies and a lactose intolerance so I don't think I would have connected it anyway. Once I had our son I thought that maybe it was one of those "crazy" things that happen when your pregnant but that wasn't the case., it's been 12 years. I never had the kind of pain and diarrhea that I experienced before I was pregnant but I don't know how else to explain it. Anyone else out there experience this? I seem to be able to tolerate a pinch of garlic salt and that is about it. I was recently in Asia, Laos specifically and they use a ridiculous amount of garlic in their cooking. It was impossible to ask for my dishes without garlic, they just didn't get it and in one restaurant I think they doubled the garlic! I just carefully picked thru the noodles and veggies for the garlic. I made it thru most meals unscathed.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Tue, September 2, 2008 - 7:51 PM
    Raw onions put me to sleep. Some kinds of onions affect me more strongly than others. White and Bermuda onions are like an overdose of heroin, Vidalia aren't so bad. If I eat raw onions within 30 minutes to an hour I have to lie down. If I don't, I'm sure I'll fall down. Then I sleep for about an hour. I have yet to meet or discover anyone else with this issue. If the onions are cooked / caramelized I have no issues with them - whatever it is that affects me can be neutralized by cooking. Green onions also affect me BUT garlic does not.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Mon, November 24, 2008 - 11:24 AM
    I would say that I have an onion/garlic intolerance rather than an allergy. I seem to have an atypical reaction, based on this list.

    I first noticed in high school (soon after puberty) that when I eat too much onion, I seem to sweat and "pee it out" - meaning that there is an *extremely* pronounced odor in those fluids. Luckily, I don't like raw onion and I hate the texture of them in foods, so I avoid it most the time anyway. Just every once in a while there's a craving for onion rings.

    When I eat too much garlic, on the other hand, I find myself with dry mouth and an intense thirst - I could be so full of water that I am literally sloshing, and still feel parched and dehydrated. This starts about 20-30 minutes after eating (in other words, about the time the meal is ending) and lasts for up to 6 hours.

    Unfortunately, I LOVE garlic. So, I plan my intake accordingly - if I'm going to have a salad (with ranch dressing, my favorite), I go ahead and pile on the croutons, drench it in dressing, etc. At Red Lobster, I get caesar salad, croutons, eat the biscuits, and finish up with shrimp scampi - why limit myself if I'm going to have the same reaction whether I have one or all of them!?

    Anyhow, that's my reaction. Not dangerous, but consistent and impossible to ignore.
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Mon, November 24, 2008 - 11:25 AM
      Also, I'm watching my son for a true allergy. Since I started him on Third Foods size baby food, many of which contain onion powder for seasoning, he started getting a rash on his cheeks sometimes. I haven't been able to pinpoint it but we're watching it.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Thu, January 29, 2009 - 8:16 AM
    I have been allergic to onions ever since I can remember. I just didn't realize it until a few years ago. When I was little and would eat onions, I would get horrible headaches and wouldn't feel well. I didn't really have problems with garlic until a few years ago--or I didn't associate my symptoms with garlic at the time. My allergies progressively got worse. After eating onions or garlic (of any kind powder, salt, cooked or raw) I would get the gi symptoms--vomit. I would also be really, really thirsty, and tired. It's so funny to me that others have these same symptoms. I was diagnosed with onion and garlic allergies along with egg, shellfish, fish, and soy. I have numerous seasonal allergies too. My symptoms now are severe. I have been breaking out in hives--I think from the smell of onion and garlic--and my eyes and lips have been swelling. The other night I ate 4 bites of Minestrone that I had made (I used diced tomatoes with onion and basil--didn't realize until I had dumped them into the pot that there was onion in them. It smelled so good and was the first time I'd made it that I took 4 bites) almost instantly I started loosing my voice and then within 30 minutes, the right side of my throat swelled. I took a zyrtec and then my husband took me to the hospital. By the time we got there (about 30 minutes) I could feel the swelling going down (I think it was the Zyrtec) and refused to go in because I am so sensitive to everything that I was afraid of my reaction to whatever they would give me. I am so afraid to eat now because that was the first time this has happened to me. I did not realize that Irises and Lillies were in the same family. It's so ironic that I'm reading this today because just last night I told my husband that my voice starts to get hoarse and my nose runs when I'm in church. It must be the flowers!! I really think that smells are getting to me now. Over Christmas I was at my in-laws. My mother-in-law had olives stuffed with garlic on the table. I of course didn't eat any of them. The smell was so strong!!!! I broke out in hives and didn't know why. I would put money on it that it was the smell of the garlic. I need a really good recipe for chicken and beef broth without onion and garlic in it. Does anyone have one??
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, February 8, 2009 - 5:41 AM
    So glad to find this tribe. I have GI symptoms- cramps, flatulence nausea (I usually resist the vomiting). I actually don't get any of the second set of symptoms. People think I'm crazy that I can't eat onions.
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Sun, March 22, 2009 - 3:36 AM
    I have only recently discovered a mild allergy to onion. I get headaches and almost a dizzy kind of feeling but more like I'm on some kind of drug. It's very weird. I eat a lot of onion, but I am beginning to think that I only have a reaction to red onion. The last two times that I have had red onion, the symptoms have been pretty strong. Does anyone else have these symptoms? Does anyone else only react to red onion?
    • Re: what are your symptoms?

      Wed, May 20, 2009 - 4:43 AM
      This is the first time I've even considered that I might have an allium intolerance. I've had extreme IBS symptoms for the past week which were getting better with vigilant food watching right up until yesterday. Yesterday my darling mum cooked a tuna and almonds casserole and brought some over for me to have for lunch. I noticed that she had used red onions in it which she normally would not do. Consequence? This morning, extreme diarrhea, cramps, flatulence all of which were so bad that I only managed to stay at work for 45 minutes before it became too much. I've never been a great one for eating onions or garlic but I do like leeks in a casserole. The beginning of this particular episode, I believe was a barbecue where I made caramelized onions and ate them, then the next day I made a casserole with sliced leeks. My stomach is growling just thinking about this. I am also a thyroid patient and have been for 15 or so years. I noticed that as soon as my thyroid started being troublesome, my reaction to certain foods increased. I never liked tomatos as a child but I ate them as I grew older. Tomato's fortunately only cause hives. I am astounded at how many people have a reaction to onions and garlic though. My background is that I am a mature age student looking to attend university next year. Throughout my 2 entry years of study I have written several papers on food allergies and intolerances. I am intending to study either nutrition or biomolecular science at university. Nutrition for the intolerance and allergy aspect OR biomolecular science with a view to agriculture, food additives etc. In this thread alone I have read numerous statements about food additives and like all of you here, I am appalled at what the food industry is allowed to include in our diets. Good on all of you for having a say and for recognizing that doctors aren't the be all and end all of diagnostic capabilities. We all know our own bodies and I regularly say, if you think something is wrong with your system, you can almost guarantee it is. Self diagnosing also is not the be all and end all but knowing yourself goes a long way toward helping yourself to a healthy life.
      Cas xxx
  • Re: what are your symptoms

    Sun, March 22, 2009 - 6:30 PM
    I have a list of reactions depending on the exposure. If I am just around a raw onion, I start to itch and break out in hives and if the exposure is great enough, my lips and tounge swell and sometimes I get anaphylaxis. If I eat an onion in any shape or form I break out in hives, swell, have anaphylaxis, and have recently added GI symptoms, which are rather unpleasant. I have to carry benadryl and 2 epipens with me at all times. My doctors recently added Zantac and Claritin daily since they are H1 and H2 blockers. They did help to make reactions less severe. I have reactions all the time since onions are so very hard to avoid.

    Does anyone else have problems when they come in contact with someone who has recently handled onions?
  • Re: what are your symptoms?

    Tue, June 9, 2009 - 6:36 PM
    I'm so glad to find all you onion-phobes! I've had onion intolerance since I was a child -- major nausea unless I throw it up within a half-hour of eating or 36 hours of gastrointestinal distress if I don't. I can tolerate garlic in moderate amounts, but any kind of onion is complete off the charts. My parents told me all my life that it's just in my head, that I would outgrow it. My family would prepare dishes with onions and not tell me because "you can't really taste them" and I'd never know the difference. They were right -- I didn't know, until my symptoms kicked in within a half hour. I became pigeon-holed as the "picky eater" in my big family.

    After 4-plus decades, my onion radar is highly tuned. The only cure for me is to completely avoid onions in all forms and I've become really good identifying just by smell whether a dish has onions. When I kiss my husband at the end of the work day, I can tell if he had onions for lunch (even if he didn't know). Yes, I'm that pain-in-the-ass customer that waiters hate -- but isn't it better to just find out for me rather than have me return the dish to the kitchen (or, uh, return it to you via projectile vomiting right there on your carpet)?

    On the other hand, it has made me a pretty good home cook. How else can I get onion-free crab cakes, lasagna, soup, jambalaya, or lamb vindaloo? I learned to make all my favorites from scratch.

    Thanks, everyone, now I know I'm not crazy (at least about the onion thing). And in the last ten years, I've discovered cousins on both sides of my family with similar reactions, although not as immediate and severe as mine. I guess we carry the gene.

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