Questions and discussion points - 2006/08/22 10:20 I would be interested in seeing when in Nomenus history these bannishings of faeries became so commonplace. I am not convinced yet that just one person is responsible for this atmosphere where exclusions become routine. I see that some blame Rabbit, but I think it goes beyond one personality. It is true that Rabbit has built a little fiefdom and wields some influnce, but the problem is more systematic. One solution might be to put a time limit on how long any caretaker can remain, perhaps 2-3 years.
Another symptom occured last year in a discussion over on Tribe. During one heated exchange the president of Nomenus (Paradox at the time) unleashed a tirade of "fuck you" when he disagreed with my posting.
Besides it being unplesant for me and other readers, I was suprised that others failed to call hiim on his rude behavior- not just on my behalf, but how ot looks for the president of an organization to be treating someome in a public forum.
I think it is aslo time to renegotiate the deal with Naraya. Perhaps Naraya should be limited to a portion of the land so that faeries in need of sanctuary cannot be turned away. Or maybe Clyde could be persuaded to loosen up and agree to restrict his gatekeeping only to those who are participating in Naraya. The need for Naraya to hold their ritual should not interfere with faeries ascess to the land
I'll post more later, I'd like some discussion of what can be done to affect some change.
Vaughn
Re:Questions and discussion points - 2006/08/22 14:28 That post Paradox fired at you was soon deleted, as a lot of these personal attacks soon get deleted, as the point of such posts is the act of firing off a salvo.
I learned to save such for future record, so this is that post from August 15 of last year I edited out your name -V)
"Fuck you ---- fuck you for your continuing twisted interpretation. Fuck you for your willingness to bitch on this Tribe and NEVER do anything constructive to make the changes you want. Fuck you for alleging something about a majority that doesn't exist. You haven't been on the Land or at a gathering since when? How the hell would you know what any large number of people associated with Wolf Creek would want"
The President was on a bad roll that day, as this was from another post he made:
"Of course, I doubt if you have the balls (or the boobs, depending on your gender) to say any of this to me face-to-face. "
The act of bannishing faeries from off Sanctuary was practiced by such as Nomenus's current Corporate Secretary, Rula, who word has it wishes to return living at the Wolf Creek Sanctuary.
Senior Sanctuary Caretaker Rabbit exploited an existing bad trend for his personal benefit, as Nomenus pays his room and board, and he collects a "Stipend" from each dollar donated.
And with such focus now on paid events such as Naraya, money is to be made there.
The moderator of the tribe Radical Faerie tribe posted this on June 28:
"so the past few times when i've gone to Wolf Creek and given my money to the caretaker, i've said explicitly: "This money is for Wolf Creek Sanctuary and the community on the Land. It is NOT intended for Nomenus.""
X Re:Questions and discussion points - 2006/08/22 17:57 As for their financial situation.................
Last I was there I saw an extreme amount of wastefulness in the kitchen, food is not cheap. When you over order and it rots before cooking it, that's waste. When you make 100 lbs. of coleslaw, and it rots in the fridge, that is waste. When there are leftovers out the ass from dinner and someone goes and cooks up a huge lunch and doesn't incorporate any left overs and they rot in the fridge, it's waste. I witness 100's of lbs of produce getting chucked in the bin. THAT'S WASTE!
I have no sympathy for people who are so wasteful, when they bitch about being broke.
btw, what's up with the styrofoam containers I saw all over the land? Are these fey such hypocrites that they'll bitch about pollution and saving mother earth, yet pollute their own land with styrofoam? I guess that's a yes.
Another symptom occured last year in a discussion over on Tribe. During one heated exchange the president of Nomenus (Paradox at the time) unleashed a tirade of "fuck you" when he disagreed with my posting.
Besides it being unplesant for me and other readers, I was suprised that others failed to call hiim on his rude behavior- not just on my behalf, but how ot looks for the president of an organization to be treating someome in a public forum.
I think it is aslo time to renegotiate the deal with Naraya. Perhaps Naraya should be limited to a portion of the land so that faeries in need of sanctuary cannot be turned away. Or maybe Clyde could be persuaded to loosen up and agree to restrict his gatekeeping only to those who are participating in Naraya. The need for Naraya to hold their ritual should not interfere with faeries ascess to the land
I'll post more later, I'd like some discussion of what can be done to affect some change.
Vaughn
Re:Questions and discussion points - 2006/08/22 14:28 That post Paradox fired at you was soon deleted, as a lot of these personal attacks soon get deleted, as the point of such posts is the act of firing off a salvo.
I learned to save such for future record, so this is that post from August 15 of last year I edited out your name -V)
"Fuck you ---- fuck you for your continuing twisted interpretation. Fuck you for your willingness to bitch on this Tribe and NEVER do anything constructive to make the changes you want. Fuck you for alleging something about a majority that doesn't exist. You haven't been on the Land or at a gathering since when? How the hell would you know what any large number of people associated with Wolf Creek would want"
The President was on a bad roll that day, as this was from another post he made:
"Of course, I doubt if you have the balls (or the boobs, depending on your gender) to say any of this to me face-to-face. "
The act of bannishing faeries from off Sanctuary was practiced by such as Nomenus's current Corporate Secretary, Rula, who word has it wishes to return living at the Wolf Creek Sanctuary.
Senior Sanctuary Caretaker Rabbit exploited an existing bad trend for his personal benefit, as Nomenus pays his room and board, and he collects a "Stipend" from each dollar donated.
And with such focus now on paid events such as Naraya, money is to be made there.
The moderator of the tribe Radical Faerie tribe posted this on June 28:
"so the past few times when i've gone to Wolf Creek and given my money to the caretaker, i've said explicitly: "This money is for Wolf Creek Sanctuary and the community on the Land. It is NOT intended for Nomenus.""
X Re:Questions and discussion points - 2006/08/22 17:57 As for their financial situation.................
Last I was there I saw an extreme amount of wastefulness in the kitchen, food is not cheap. When you over order and it rots before cooking it, that's waste. When you make 100 lbs. of coleslaw, and it rots in the fridge, that is waste. When there are leftovers out the ass from dinner and someone goes and cooks up a huge lunch and doesn't incorporate any left overs and they rot in the fridge, it's waste. I witness 100's of lbs of produce getting chucked in the bin. THAT'S WASTE!
I have no sympathy for people who are so wasteful, when they bitch about being broke.
btw, what's up with the styrofoam containers I saw all over the land? Are these fey such hypocrites that they'll bitch about pollution and saving mother earth, yet pollute their own land with styrofoam? I guess that's a yes.
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