Metals of the Gods...

topic posted Thu, February 1, 2007 - 7:20 PM by  MacMorrighan
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Hey guys, a friend of mine gave me a book today-- "The Universal Myths: Heroes, Gods, Tricksters and Others", by Alexander Eliot (with contributions by Joseph Campbell & Mircea Eliade; the latter whom Hutton decided to "debunk" in one of his recent books on shamanism, as if yo make his grandfather suck eggs!). Anyway, as I was thumbing through it, I came upon the following passage that I have never heard of, before, in any myths that have come to my attention to date (where the Gods are specifically concerned, as opposed to Renaissance occultism):

"According to classical legend, the minerals common to our planet indicate the erstwhile presence of heavenly bodies here on earth. Iron is the cloak of Mars left behind when he deserted the earth; lead is Saturn's cloak; quicksilver is the claok of Mercury and so on. Gold was the garment of the sun when that burning deity wandered the earth, and silver was the nude moon's headdress" [pp. 94].

So...I was wondering if anyone might know where I might find these specific myths. Hoever, what of Jupiter and tin or Venus and copper *grin*, mythically-speaking? I'd love to find the relavent source-material. *G* When I ran a few search terms through Google this evening, it lead me to a passage from Geoffrey Chacer's The Canterbury Tales; indeed, it has been suggested that one can learn much about the occult prevalent during Chaucer's time from this text. However, the passage in question reads as follows:

"The first of spirits, then, quicksilver is,
The second arsenic, the third, ywis,
Is sal ammoniac, the fourth brimstone.
The seven bodies I'll describe anon:
Sol, gold is, Luna's silver, as we see,
Mars iron, and quicksilver's Mercury,
Saturn is lead, and Jupiter is tin,
And Venus copper, by my father's kin!"
["The Canon's Yeoman's Tale", The Canterbury Tales, stanzas 270-275; c. Thirteenth Century].

Take Care,
Wade
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MacMorrighan
Iowa
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  • Re: Metals of the Gods...

    Fri, February 2, 2007 - 7:00 AM
    Chaucer was heavily influenced, in turn, by Vergil. Right now I am working on a possible correlation between the Aeneid and the seven Alchemical operations of calcinatio, solutio, coagulatio, sublimatio, mortificatio, separatio and conionuctio. Perhaps there is a planetary correlation that goes along with this. Right now this "Alchemical scheme" for the Aeneid is just speculation on my part.
    • Re: Metals of the Gods...

      Fri, February 2, 2007 - 10:05 AM
      How interesting! Though, I know nearly nothing of the various precepts of Alchemy, so that just flew in one ear and out the other. ;o)

      And, what? Nothing about Hutton going after Mercea Eliade? Honestly, I'm surprised he has not come under fure for that, because ccording to a local Elder/HPs I know that is highly educated, his book on shamanism is still highly regarded to the point that one is relatively unlikely to get pubished on the subject if he doesn't cite it! Moreover, I find it illogical that he has arguied the terms "shamanistic" or "shamanic" as similies, or "understoods" (because they have a tribal connotation not available to European paganism and medieval witchcraft beliefs, for the most part!), can ONLY be used to describe the tribal beliefs of the Arctic Noth and Siberia, etc.! Damn, could he BE more pedantic?!?!? This was his only reason for blatanly dismissing Hungerian Prof. Eva Pocs as inconsequential and irrelivent! As if...!
      • Re: Metals of the Gods...

        Fri, February 2, 2007 - 10:26 AM
        People believe what they want to believe and they hear what they want to hear. Hutton has been anointed and the second anyone voices any criticism of him that person is told to "get over it". I'll get over it when Pagans can once again proudly speak of the Old Religion without having to put up with a lot of shit - FROM OTHER PAGANS! I expect Christians and other non-Pagans to perhaps scoff at the idea that Paganism never died, but what could ever possess a Pagan to believe that?

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