Pre-investigation Revealing

topic posted Fri, November 16, 2007 - 9:03 PM by  Ana
Ok another topic. How much do you feel should be revealed prior to an investigation about the history of the location?

We're still hammering this out in our group to be honest. In a site where we know we'll be doing a long term invest, we have everyone go in completely blind to where and what phenomenon are happening and then trickle out enough in later rounds for targetted locations to set up stationary cameras or focus of other equiptment.

At locations that we only get one or two chances to go in we establish target sites for cameras but don't give anything else out.

The longer we are at a site, the more info tends to trickle out- mostly human nature. I know I'm guilty being a reviewer, its hard to not share what comes up!

Is your group hard core about no info leaking ever until the end, or do you go in sharing all the stories? Why and how's that working for ya'll?
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Ana
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  • Re: Pre-investigation Revealing

    Sat, November 17, 2007 - 1:14 PM
    Usually our Lead Investigator gives us what information she knows and we go with it. I would guess how much info you give out to 'whom' would depend on the members of your group. There are, in my observation, two basic types of investigator. Sensitives and Technicals.

    SENSITIVES
    Tend to fall into the psychics, and people who hear, see or feel things and people who want to believe all hauntings are real. I am not saying these people are uncredible. I have met some people that can do some pretty fascinating things from moving objects without touching them to telling you what you will be doing in a week. I have met people who really saw things that were there. However in this group are also clumped the people who seem to see everything everywhere and you are never quite sure if they are really telling the truth or want attention. Everything can't be everywhere.

    Investigators that are psychic or have specialized acute tuning to see, hear, or feel things, shouldn't be told much more than a basic outline of information. I would refrain from specifics. Let them know there was a death or trauma in the house but withhold sex, names, specific rooms - details like that.
    Knowing too many details going in could easily hamper honest impressions and the credibility of the investigation.
    See 'whats-his-name' from Most Haunted for a good example of a 'psychic' knowing the history before the investigation.

    Another type to probably not give the full story to are those people who tend to easily believe every house is haunted, people who always say they 'see' things, or 'feel' things when the rest of the groups general consensus is the property owner is simply afraid of their shadow. Giving them all of the details of deaths in specific rooms can feed the fire and whip them into a froth.
    A few friends and I jokingly refer to these people as 'Brians'. It is our secret code, which refers to Brian from TAPS who tended to be a little too wide eyed and willing to believe every blip is a haunting. These people also need to often be reined in as they tend to get excited and talk about personal experiences in front of the property owner which is a no no.

    TECHNICALS
    These people tend to be more on the reserved side and try to figure out the cause of things before going "GHOST!" and then looking like idiots later because of a tree branch.

    The investigators in this group that tend to be more skeptical, analytical and technical, should have the full story and details - and should be told specifically to not to share these details to the two groups mentioned above. These people will be on the look out for causes - tree branches, freeways, lights, noise from the neighbors, etc. They will know where to set up the equipment and what to watch for. These are also the people you want to mix with your 'Sensitives'.

    When the post investigation logs are turned in (if you do them) it will be easier to maintain a balance and get a better impression of the overall investigation. After the investigation you can then meet, share all of the details and have an open floor discussion. At this point you have everyone’s logs turned in and accounted for and the integrity of the investigation will still remain intact.

    Integrity and credibility is a very fragile thing in our field. The skepticism I get when I tell people what I do for fun is very strong. So we travel a fine line between Medicine Show Salesmen and Knights in Shining Armor. Fielding the information you under share or over share to certain individuals in the group will help maintain the reliability of the information you end up submitting to the hosts during the post investigation.

    Hope that helped :)
    • Re: Pre-investigation Revealing

      Sat, November 17, 2007 - 11:20 PM
      Its interesting to see how your group dealt with this aspect- thanks! Yep we do logs, we tend to do a layering of evidence collection, pulling our baseline info and then collecting the technical data. We do primarily technical data collection and have our sensitives record their impressions in writing so as not to influence other members. That way if we get cooberating information we know that it's double blinded. At first we weren't going to encourage the collection of data from sensitives at all, but once we got into the field most of us felt that we were shooting ourselves in the foot. So now we use both, with caution.

      At this point, we don't allow folks who are suseptible to - everything's a ghost, to participate in private cases until we can get them past that. They stay in the training session loop for all the reasons you mentioned below. Our goal is to be professional, competant and give our client some relief- having someone being all 'I'm walking through a funhouse' can be downright damaging.

      I'm guessing you are talking about Derek Acora from 'Most Haunted'- the man gives me tne Matlocks. Especially when you see how crappy his accuracy was in the earlier shows and now he's got too much detail- the dude totally does advance background work. Bleh. I watch the show... sort of like watching a train wreck, can't turn away even though it's painful at times to watch. Other times, very rarely, they get something that's exciting and doesn't appear to be part of their manufactured fare.
      • Re: Pre-investigation Revealing

        Sun, November 18, 2007 - 10:06 AM
        I do the same thing.

        I love the history of the locations. That is the only thing I like about it. Some group I managed to get on somewhere else feels that show has more credibility than the Ghost Hunters people. I was like 'huh' LOL Even without Derek (yes that is who I meant) they are still full of hooey and are all a buncha 'everything is haunted' people. I guess you gotta watch the really bad to know what really good is, right?

        It's a difficult balance. I think the seperate logging and post impression log are a good way to keep that balance. We have some 15 different forms that we use before the investigation, during, and after. It seems like a lot but it will make it easier to document a lot of things for the final result.

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