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I just started brewing mead after attending Grim's fabulous mead nite. I enjoyed that a lot.
I have two one-gallon batches that have been racked once. A watermelon and a craisin raisin. Both were very active in first stage and they each came to near a stop (as far as bubbles through the vent goes) and they settled out rather quickly.
What is normal for second stage? Racking went slightly better than catastrophically, btw.
Now, they both look to me (COMPLETE novice) to not be doing anything. NO bubbles. In fact, the one lost positive pressure if the airlock is communicating what I think it is.
Do I need to try to get some yeasty party going in there or... what? Just wait? I don't seem to be very patient. :P
Thanks,
g
I have two one-gallon batches that have been racked once. A watermelon and a craisin raisin. Both were very active in first stage and they each came to near a stop (as far as bubbles through the vent goes) and they settled out rather quickly.
What is normal for second stage? Racking went slightly better than catastrophically, btw.
Now, they both look to me (COMPLETE novice) to not be doing anything. NO bubbles. In fact, the one lost positive pressure if the airlock is communicating what I think it is.
Do I need to try to get some yeasty party going in there or... what? Just wait? I don't seem to be very patient. :P
Thanks,
g
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Re: 2nd stage mead question(s)
Sun, October 11, 2009 - 5:48 AMOnce the airlock runs backward, the mead is either finished, or stuck. The best ways to determine this are to compare gravity readings, or to taste it. If it tastes good, and not horribly sweet (like raw honey) and has noticeable alcohol, it is probably done. Or, if your first gravity reading and this one are far enough apart to account for the alcohol percentage that your yeast usually produces.
If it's not done, you need to work out possible reasons that it quit, and try to get it restarted. If it tastes and/or measures finished, you can make final adjustments and then bottle, but there is no need to hurry. Be patient. It needs to age some, and it will do that in the carboy just as it will do in bottles, however, in the carboy you can still adjust things: You should be able to read through the carboy, and a flashlight should shine through clearly. Sneak a tiny sample out with a turkey baster or something similar that is clean. Does it have nice aroma? Would a little more acidity help to brighten the taste? Is it sharp, and maybe a touch of vanilla would smooth it out? What would one or two drops of lemon juice do? The possibilities are staggering. Just try tiny pinches, or single drops with a toothpick to adjust the mead in your sample to see if you like it first before you adjust the whole batch.
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Re: 2nd stage mead question(s)
Sun, October 11, 2009 - 10:09 AMCool. Thanks.
Reading through it. Check.
Funny you should say that about the airlock. Between yesterday and today the watermelon ran backward, pulling a little vacuum.
I took a tiny sample. Em and I weren't real keen on it, though having NO experience brewing, we don't know what wonderful affects aging might have.
The best way I can describe the taste is... musty. It does have some nice watermelon coming through, though. It's way drier than my taste. It's amazing to me just how much sweetness is consumed by the yeast. I can taste alcohol, but it could probably be stronger. I'm wondering if I starved the yeast.
Also on that note, even with the small size sample, I've got the belchies now. Viable yeast still there, perhaps?
Thanks for the tips. Keep 'em comin'. -
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Re: 2nd stage mead question(s)
Tue, October 13, 2009 - 9:49 AMYou say all the sweetness is gone? How much honey did you use? Perhaps you want to add a small bit back in and see if it A. sweetens it and B. gets it fermenting again.
I had a batch of banana mead which lost all banana flavor. I added the lees of two other one gallon batches and some more honey and got it back to accptable then added both sweet and sour cherries...now it is great and aging for next pennsic.
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Re: 2nd stage mead question(s)
Wed, October 14, 2009 - 6:04 AMYeasty would be expected, musty, as in mildewy, would be a problem. Funny smell plus belching plus dry indicates active yeast that are starving. Try adding a tiny amount of sugar to a little hot water and add it. We use corn sugar for this. (priming sugar for beer) How much depends on the amount of honey you used, and the yeast you used.
If it's actually musty, there's not much you can do. I've heard that saran wrap will pull some of the musty out, but never tried it. Definitely need to go over your techniques and consider your fermentation area humidity. -
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Re: 2nd stage mead question(s)
Wed, October 14, 2009 - 7:14 AMI would suggest never adding fruit to something that is not already fermenting. Mold can sometimes get a foothold before yeast tatke over. Once something is fermenting the alcohol inhibits all but the most hardy of nasties. Not sure if it applies here but that can give you a musty smell.
On the other hand what smells bad to one person may be a good thing for another.
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