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UTAH PERMACULTURE COMMUNITY

topic posted Thu, November 29, 2007 - 4:29 PM by  Charles
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The Utah Valley Cohousing Community, to be located south of Salt Lake City and within commuting distance of Utah Valley State College and Brigham Young University, welcomes participation by individuals and families interested in: co-housing, eco-village development, permaculture, and sustainable living in general. The UVCC has no religious or political affiliation,. Everyone is welcome. At present we are early in the planning stage, and no site has been selected. The list will serve as forum for discussion, leading (it is hoped) to practical expression in the form of eco-village and/or co-housing development in or near Provo, Utah. Our models are Eco-Village at Ithaca (www.ecovillage.ithaca.ny.us/), Champlain Valley Co-Housing (www.champlainvalleycohousing.org), the Wasatch Commons (www.econ.utah.edu/~ehrbar/c...ndex.htm), and Earthsong Eco-Neighborhood (www.earthsong.org.nz), suitably modified to local conditions.

"If it is man's privilege to be independent, it is equally his duty to be inter-dependent." M. K. Gandhi

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Charles
Utah
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  • Re: UTAH PERMACULTURE COMMUNITY

    Wed, September 17, 2008 - 6:06 PM
    Utah has plenty of culture already. The Church of Later Day Saints has a perfectly iron clad impervious culture. I think if Utah would make rainwater harvesting more workable, develop useful native and abundant non-native fruit and food guilds, move to contour farming the place would be infinitely better. The smallest change in attitude would be miraculous- For example my lawn has the only clover on my street. The bees are swarming in varieties and number on my still undeveloped (perma-CULT-ure wise) yard. Culture and community is great - Meaning, Order, and Membership. Mormons are very competitive, secretive and distrusting of new ideas so it will not be possible to have "no religious or political affiliation" unless your group embraces the dominant culture and coddles republican values. I've been here ten years and I am still an outsider. If I had gone to Canada instead I would be considered a Canadian the instant I drew my first refugee status welfare check.

    Co-Housing sounds too much like commune, or co-op. Splitting up the development into functions that allow private ownership and private property is going to work. Also if it is to work the site selected needs to have a water company that controls the entire watershed. I would propose a place no one else wants with intermittent streams that has cheap or nonexistent water. Water rights are key.

    This is my first response to the Utah discussion. Has anyone else responded? How flexible is your plan?