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i'm cross-posting this to see what sort of dialogue comes of it. reading this guy is blowing my mind....
"The end of spirituality is simply the realization that the perspective that seeks resolution is the problem, and this cannot be solved, created as it is by the illusion of separation, which is thought itself.
Without the fragmented perspective that searches, there is no spirituality. The end of spirituality leaves the looking, without the looker. Post-spirituality is the perspective of the looking, a movement without an organized center, without thought as the perspective. But this is not the absence of perspective, nor is it the absence of thought.
Spirituality has claimed a variety of omega points, places of meeting godhead, where the ‘me’ touches transcendence. Post-spirituality recognizes nothing as the meeting point - the perspective is not from the fragment seeking the whole, but rather of the whole expressing as the fragment-in-the-whole.
Spirituality in all its forms, including non-duality, is dualistic; it is a fragment looking for unity. Post-spirituality is non-dualistic, evidenced by the reversal of perspective; the whole is expressing actuality. There is nothing to acquire, there is only the dynamic of creation-imbedded-in-destruction as an unknowable manifestation.
Spirituality has created the idea and the experience of the present, and with that creation has created the past and future as equal but opposite ideas and experiences.
Post-spirituality does not concern itself with any division of time and does not care about maintaining contact with the present moment or any other constructed idea or experience. Post-spirituality is an expression of the quantum reality, which is timeless and therefore free to function in any experience of time or any non-experience of time. Time is a relative dimension and an expression of wholeness, like all relative dimensions.
Spirituality builds itself around self-location, the seeker who attempts to transcend, and the transcendent one who attempts to return to chopping wood and carrying cappuccino. Post-spirituality abandons all myths of self in all its forms and deals directly with the actual self, the manifest self just as it is, giving up all sense of improvement. The actual self is the precise manifestation of the whole.
Without time and location there can be no spirituality; without spirituality there is post-spirituality. Addicted to seeking and desperate for an identity, we may try to convert post-spirituality into something, even a not-something. But, what it is, simply, as the negative, is that it is, without ‘me’. As a positive expression, it is the actual, and actuality is a quantum reality, not a mechanical reality. The quantum reality is the potential for anything, unrestricted by any ideated past, present, or future.
Spirituality has no creative expression. As a conditioned expression of our sense of lack, it is caught in its own promise of fulfillment.
Post-spirituality is without promise; pain and pleasure are phenomenologically identical and aqualitative; fulfillment is a constructed experience; and there are no predictable structures to rely on. The post-spiritual life is entirely creative, because it lives in the unknown. Just as quantum physics has demonstrated the unpredictability of actuality, the post-spiritual sensibility is uncertainty, chaos, and confusion. This is a tremendously vital dynamic, reliant on no particular state, believing in no particular description, and moving as an expression of life."
~ Steven Harrison, “What’s Next After Now?”
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Re: post-spirituality
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Re: post-spirituality
Wed, February 1, 2006 - 10:06 AMi agree, john. any writer who takes me out of my thinking mind is worth listening to.
it's interesting, cuz on several other tribes where i posted this, the reaction was hostile and/or dismissive. which just points up how 'spirituality' can become another attachment we cling to, rather than the means to let go. -
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Re: post-spirituality
Fri, February 3, 2006 - 3:58 AMinteresting !
That could probably be understood/put in context ( the reaction )
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Re: post-spirituality
Fri, February 3, 2006 - 9:01 AMLOL! no doubt, but what i find interesting is how the imagined threat-to-self (or that self's belief system) becomes the obstacle to just taking an unbiased look. i'm not sure this reaction can be pegged to one specific meme, since the belief in a self is pretty much the last thing to go.
or maybe that's the beginning....
:-)
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Re: post-spirituality
Mon, February 6, 2006 - 6:49 AMIt could be !
Heh, Steven Harrison's writings as if a SD meme buster.
Which is doubly funny, since the above is a slogan/meme
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Re: post-spirituality
Mon, February 6, 2006 - 9:02 AMthat's just the thing; i find him to be a thought buster, across the board.
he's been criticized as being too wordy, and of course laying out a treatise on 'doing nothing' is utterly absurd, but at least he knows it and plows on. this is what both delights me and creates space in my own stream of thought.
obviously, we can watch our thoughts and feelings, which proves we can be aware of what we usually take to be 'me'. if so, it begs the question, who is aware of that awareness?
and who is aware of that awareness???
that busts the idea of location, the self cannot be localized, yet something is going on, something compelling us to breathe and move and interact.....and that's the bottom line (at least as far as i can presently express) that this not-me is moved to connect and combine and enrich in a continual give-and-take with the world.
and then it comes up to ask, what can we, together, do, now that the self and all its manic energy-to-survive as a separate entity intent on winning and competing and acquiring, is seen for the fallacy it is? do we impose that on the world, with all the violence, suffering, and animosity it implies?
after thousands of years, we've seen that the social structure based on pursuit of self doesn't work.....but we haven't really explored what can be created when we base our actions on this something else. i've seen we sort of flirt with it, on tribe and elsewhere, but basically we're still immersed and feeding the very structyures that maintain separation and pain.
SH ez:
there is an inherent expression of life, which is freed of this burden of knowledge, and this expression is what we can call love.
freed of the constrictions of our thought, there is only totality, the interconnected nature of the actuality of life. that inherent expression arises naturally in each of us.
what occurs then?
this is about as far as i've gone, at least here on tribe. in my immediate life, lots more.....but i'm moved to throw myself into a wider arena and see what happens.
so i'm appreciating the opening on this tribe to dialogue about it.
yeah?
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Re: post-spirituality
Mon, February 6, 2006 - 10:51 AMYeah !
The intent of the heart, as if certain fractal, heart rate variabilities
are not only local, but rather both omniversal and immanent,
both as if we are one through unconditional love, as well as
exploring the extension of and embodiment of this love,
through local instances, through nested loci of awareness of awareness...
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