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Hi everyone, I'm new here. I'm trying to find a place to pose an interesting question. I have been working on transcending the mind for a couple of years now, and im doing pretty well. The power of now has helped me allot.
One thing I have been noticing is that when I go to bed my mind is very active at trying to create false identities out of things my mind is not able to let go off. Certain things happen throughout the day that some how build up and then when I go to sleep my mind will try to play out scenarios where could have or should have done something different.. It usually has to do with challenges to my self that I faced though out the day.
For instance, I'm taking an English class at the junior college where I live, I know the teacher because i have taken an English class with him before and I like the teacher. He is a pretty conservative guy, I'm finding myself ad odds with some of the things he is teaching in his class. mainly the idea that our writing wont be taken seriously if we dont base everything on facts. I agree to a certain extent that when you are writing about real world things you do need to cite factual data. But I also know that writing about abstract ideas is just as interesting and can still be pursued as a valid topic. Its unfortunate because when ever any of us try to talk about abstract ideas, or about how certain points of view are largely relative or Dependant on how one thinks about the world. Also how ones view determines what one experiences in his world. He doesn't think these issues are valid to the topic we are discussing and steers the discussion away from it. Not sure what to do about this but I am thinking about talking to him in private.
Anyway when I go to sleep my mind trys to invent scenarios that give me enough leverage to convince him that he is not being open to other possibilities that exist outside of what he knows. And it doesn't stop, I bring my attention back to my breathing and my mind keeps coming back to creating scenarios where I can help him see that there is more to life than what we can perceive from our regular senses... and I Know this is not my job BTW.. but I find myself not be able to sleep because of all these little things that my mind wont let go off.
Does anyone have any ideas about how I can handle this, Id like to be at peace when I go to bed but my mind races with things that it feels it needs to resolve...
One thing I have been noticing is that when I go to bed my mind is very active at trying to create false identities out of things my mind is not able to let go off. Certain things happen throughout the day that some how build up and then when I go to sleep my mind will try to play out scenarios where could have or should have done something different.. It usually has to do with challenges to my self that I faced though out the day.
For instance, I'm taking an English class at the junior college where I live, I know the teacher because i have taken an English class with him before and I like the teacher. He is a pretty conservative guy, I'm finding myself ad odds with some of the things he is teaching in his class. mainly the idea that our writing wont be taken seriously if we dont base everything on facts. I agree to a certain extent that when you are writing about real world things you do need to cite factual data. But I also know that writing about abstract ideas is just as interesting and can still be pursued as a valid topic. Its unfortunate because when ever any of us try to talk about abstract ideas, or about how certain points of view are largely relative or Dependant on how one thinks about the world. Also how ones view determines what one experiences in his world. He doesn't think these issues are valid to the topic we are discussing and steers the discussion away from it. Not sure what to do about this but I am thinking about talking to him in private.
Anyway when I go to sleep my mind trys to invent scenarios that give me enough leverage to convince him that he is not being open to other possibilities that exist outside of what he knows. And it doesn't stop, I bring my attention back to my breathing and my mind keeps coming back to creating scenarios where I can help him see that there is more to life than what we can perceive from our regular senses... and I Know this is not my job BTW.. but I find myself not be able to sleep because of all these little things that my mind wont let go off.
Does anyone have any ideas about how I can handle this, Id like to be at peace when I go to bed but my mind races with things that it feels it needs to resolve...
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Re: Mind Interference before sleep
Mon, January 29, 2007 - 3:52 PMI can't find the exact quote that I'm looking for, but Dan Millman (in Everyday Enlightenment) talked about this a bit.
He said something about how since thoughts in the mind are thoughts About reality, a way to take the focus off of thoghts is to ground your self In reality. I use this while meditating since I have the bad habit of there always being some sort of tune in my head - if I focus my attention on the actual sounds of my environment, there's no place left to hear the songs.
I uploaded a picture of a relaxation pattern you can go through when laying down to sleep - I use it all the time! Takes my minds off of my thoughts, and puts them on to observing my body. Focus on each point, completely relaxing the spot before moving on to the next. I rarely get to go through the entire cycle before drifting off into a deep sleep. It may help! It's in this tribe's pictures album.
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Re: Mind Interference before sleep
Mon, February 19, 2007 - 11:56 PMThanks for the help, the relaxation pattern works great ! ) -
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Re: Mind Interference before sleep
Wed, July 16, 2008 - 7:41 PMPatanjali basically says that the mind is an ever flowing thing. It's pointless to try to stop your thoughts. And if you follow one thought it leads to another and so on and so forth. So I've found that the key is to let the thoughts flow without latching onto any of them. Sometime's it's easier than others. But given an open space your mind will take off running, you have to let it run. You can't stop it from running. You don't have to run with it however. He also says there are upward thoughts and downward thoughts, basically that energy and emotion follow thoughts. So if you follow the negative thought, it will you "down" to that energy and if you follow a positive thought, it will bring you" "up to that energy. Just a thought :)
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