I had an interesting revelation yesterday.
In regards to voyeurism and exhibitionism, I've always considered myself to be a shy voyeur and as such, I think its why I have been so drawn to photography. I think its an art form that serves voyeurs well. To me, photography is much more appropriate for those who prefer to observe, as opposed to those who more enjoy the spotlight. Those who do not like to be the center of attention can be a part of experiences by capturing those who do.
Well, I have just come to realize this actually is not the case. What I didn't take into consideration was what happens after the photos are taken. If you want to share your photos, there is definitely an element of needing to be comfortable with being exposed. For me, being so uncomfortable 'putting it out there' , it really threw me for a loop when some of my photos went public. Its an interesting sensation feeling so vulnerable with having your art and soul up for criticism and judgment. I know it sounds obvious, but I guess its when I truly realized that to be a photographer, one has to be comfortable with a certain degree of exhibitionism as well.
In regards to voyeurism and exhibitionism, I've always considered myself to be a shy voyeur and as such, I think its why I have been so drawn to photography. I think its an art form that serves voyeurs well. To me, photography is much more appropriate for those who prefer to observe, as opposed to those who more enjoy the spotlight. Those who do not like to be the center of attention can be a part of experiences by capturing those who do.
Well, I have just come to realize this actually is not the case. What I didn't take into consideration was what happens after the photos are taken. If you want to share your photos, there is definitely an element of needing to be comfortable with being exposed. For me, being so uncomfortable 'putting it out there' , it really threw me for a loop when some of my photos went public. Its an interesting sensation feeling so vulnerable with having your art and soul up for criticism and judgment. I know it sounds obvious, but I guess its when I truly realized that to be a photographer, one has to be comfortable with a certain degree of exhibitionism as well.
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Re: voyeurism v. exhibitionism
Wed, December 20, 2006 - 11:39 AMi would say this issue is one that xaine is struggling with his full frontal project.
i don't know where to go with this, but have delt with the issue myself, but did not think of my activity as voyeurism or exhibitionism... but maybe i did act in such a way, but hid it ... ?? -
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Wed, December 20, 2006 - 1:50 PMI've often been struck by the symbiotic relationship between voyeurs and exhibitionists. To be sure, there are voyeurs who like watching people who don't wish to be seen, and there are exhibitionists who like flashing people who are uncomfortable with watching them, but there's a certain mutual energy that comes from having exhibitionists performing for voyeurs. I'm definitely not limiting this energy to the sexual, since I feel that this exchange underlies the performing arts.
So, maybe photography is also like a performing art? It's not just about capturing the scene, it's about sharing that with others. By saying "look at what I saw" or "look at what I made" it becomes something like the "look at me" that a performer expresses and needs. And by viewing pictures and expressing opinions on them we grant that attention.
Actually, I'm happy with my photography playing on both sides.
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Wed, December 20, 2006 - 2:25 PMInteresting thoughts. I don't particularly like being the center of attention, which is one reason I use a pseudonym for my photography. I like people to see and enjoy the photos, but I don't really want to be part of the show. I guess I am not an exhbitionist. Part of it too, is one needs to be careful what one allows one's self to be rewarded by. Too much praise for one thing may change what you pursue as an artist. But maybe I am heading off on a tangent... -
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Wed, December 20, 2006 - 3:15 PMInteresting. P.J, if I think about sharing my photos under a pseudonym, it feels much better to me. I know the root of why I don't like attention is that I have a fear of being vulnerable and judged, so I'm really liking the idea of being detached from the work. Whereas if people see my name on the photo, I think I'd tend to feel any critique more personally. Thanks for the perspective. -
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Wed, December 20, 2006 - 4:46 PMHaving something of a history being a shy geeky type I understand not wanting to stand up front and show off, although I'm still working on it. My own balance on this is to use a separate virtual personna when posting pix and stuff. Another way to express it is that the part of me that is exhibitionistic feels both safe and validated when it is the photography that gets attention. I'm not saying that this is the main motivation, but I'm trying to be honest about coping with all parts of me that get involved in this process. If a picture that I've created and that I like is dismissed as "boring" then I'm going to feel let down, so I know that I'm not completely detached from judgement.
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Wed, December 20, 2006 - 9:32 PMPerhaps I will finish my tangent, hope I am not hijacking the thread. So, the way I see it, what we are talking about is that you are making art because it gives you joy. You worry that if you show it to people and they don't like it, that won't give you joy and it will inhibit you from making more art.
I have found there are other things to worry about as well, when going public. Let's say everyone praises some little thing you did that wasn't your favorite. You like the praise, so now you think about doing more like that, to get the praise, not because it intrinsically gives you joy. Same problem if you sell something.
There is a broad category I will call techno-envy. This is where you are happy going along doing your thing, then you go public and you learn that there is a better camera/ faster computer/ fancier widget that you should be using. Your lust for new toys can inhibit your desire to work with what you have.
Also, a short story: I have always been into music, art and technology. Years ago I was combining music and technology in a spontaneous way that gave me pleasure and I eventually went on to get an MFA. All the analysis, comparing my stuff to other people's stuff and trying to make my thing fit into an academic setting and existing cultural setting pretty much killed my desire to do it spontaneously for pleasure. So that is why I am very aware and wary of how I deal with the photography that I am now doing.
So above all, keep doing your thing! -
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Sun, January 14, 2007 - 5:15 PMThere is so much that can be siad on this topic -
I feel that I am both with my photography. It's simple to me really - no question at all.
I am a voyeur in that I love the energy that comes by getting close to your subject with the camera, looking through the lens and finding that part of the subject that they don't see or hope that no one else ever sees. I love to observe people, to watch them and see what they do when they relax in thinking that no one is watching. It's a thrill like no other.
I am an exhibitionist in that I love the attention my photography draws to me. I thrive on it the way I thrive on the energy voyeurism provides me. There's a thrill in all of it and the name of that thrill is creation.
(I'm a little weird - bear with me)
Think about it though - creation is what it's all about, no matter what equiptment, subject, time, day, final product - it's all about creation. You can wax poetic on the passion, create a symposium on the tech and go crazy with the perfection but it's all about creation. It's the fact that in every photographer there is something that we're trying to express, a view on the world that we feel is best expressed on film and we can't help but be a photographer. It would hurt if we weren't, if we were told that there was no way we could ever take another photograph.
So yeah - we all have to be both, in some amount - it's just nature of being a photographer. -
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Mon, January 15, 2007 - 12:23 AMI think it's perfectly natural . People have been sleeping in large groups togetherr for quite a long time and I bet they DID IT. Hell if I was as sexually mature back in that day as I was at ten. I would off been peeking. That my thought on it.
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Mon, January 15, 2007 - 10:16 PMmmm...I've always thought of art as the creation of beauty and the expression of souls...and of exhibitionism as a way to get the attention of others... I don't see why they have to come together...
It's true that sharing requires a certain degree of readiness for the feedback one might receive... but I think sharing does not define the artist...
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Re: voyeurism v. exhibitionism
Mon, January 15, 2007 - 10:47 PMIt's an interesting topic - how the camera provides a non-verbal means of expression and a way to convey subjective experience without words... and there is also something about a fascination with capturing lost time. The Freudians all thought we were crazy. "Unconscious Motivations of the Amateur Photographer" was one of the papers that was meant to explain our pathology... pretty funny.
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Tue, January 16, 2007 - 8:33 AMI think when I take pictures of myself as the model it could be deemed as both.
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Tue, May 29, 2007 - 11:07 PMI like observing and I like being watched, in front and behind the camera. Let other people see your photo's has something exhibitionistic as well. However, I'm not sure about the reasons why and if it's really voyeurism/exhibitionism. Wasn't exhibitionism that you KICK on people watching you? I don't do that nor do I 'kick' on people watching my photos. I have an urge to do these things I can hardly repress and I like to do it, but if I run around naked outside in the middle of the street because we want a good nude photo it's not (sexual) excitement, it's more of the fact I like to provoke a bit, I like to experiment, to do things and see how people react and respond, to wake up people. -
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Mon, December 31, 2007 - 5:08 PMMy take is that I'm an EXPRESSING MACHINE, that is ,I live for beauty in all things and my job here in life is to reveal that to others. I don't differentiate too much between my life size figurative sculpture and my nude photography,a musical composition or a piece of jewelry. To me it's about engaging THE SENSES. It's true that I'm used to being the one taking the shot,but those times when I've been the subject are still about creating or capturing a type of beauty...The big picture for me is the desire or striving for beauty. In this way my actions are integrated no matter what the medium,but My criteria is always subjective and I have spent a GREAT DEAL of TIME and ENERGY to NOT be distracted by what others think,the market,or "current trends " in the art world. The ART WORLD within my own mind is really all that matters ultimately...
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