Up until now, I have always deleted the pictures (I use digital) that were not crystal perfect. I've always wanted sharp, sharp photos. Until now.
I took a picture of someone walking at the Renaissance faire which, if it had come out, would just have been a picture of, well, someone walking. But the camera jiggled or something while I was taking the pictures and it came out ... interesting.
I looked at it and was about to delete the thing, when I realized it was beautiful in it's own way. Very artistic. I'll load it up so you can see. It's the picture titled "Swordsman".
What's the general feeling with pictures like this?
I took a picture of someone walking at the Renaissance faire which, if it had come out, would just have been a picture of, well, someone walking. But the camera jiggled or something while I was taking the pictures and it came out ... interesting.
I looked at it and was about to delete the thing, when I realized it was beautiful in it's own way. Very artistic. I'll load it up so you can see. It's the picture titled "Swordsman".
What's the general feeling with pictures like this?
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Wed, May 31, 2006 - 10:16 PMAfter looking at the image I'd say you moved the camera slightly and your shutter speed was too slow to freeze the image despite the camera movement.
This brings up an interesting technique I've used in the past while shooting sports. If you follow your moving subject with the camera at the same speed as the subject's movement and use a shutter speed of 1/60 or slower you will get a relatively sharp image of the subject with the background blurred in a linear fashion that strongly highlights the subject's movement.
The image I remember was of a 50 yard dash winner crossing the finish line leaning through the "winner's tape." The background of spectators and judges was sufficiently blurred with a horizontal motion that indicated the runner's speed and emphasized the dramatic nature of the accomplishment.
In your shot you appear to have moved the camera as if trying to catch your subject before he went out of frame (which you did, just with an unexpected effect).
As for blurry-ness in an image, it depends on what you shooting, and why, and for what purpose. Tack-sharp images have their place, however techniques like the one described herein, or selective focus, or in the case of portraits: soft focus, all have their place in photography -each with their own effect on the viewer.
Experiment with each and see which suits your needs and end placement.
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Wed, May 31, 2006 - 10:31 PMYes, I was attempting to do exactly what you state. Move the camera with the moving "target", which blurs the background making it look more like he's moving fast. I didn't expect to blur the subject like it did. But I like the shot - it's kind of abstract and I think it has a certain ... feel which is interesting. Now I may try various effects like this on purpose to see what happens.
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Fri, June 2, 2006 - 7:58 AMBruce take a look at these two pics I found in the gallery.. What is the Zen here?
tribes.tribe.net/photograp...2a9609ac96
tribes.tribe.net/photograp...7b643be0ba
Different uses of blur I suppose, but I can't feel anything...except maybe confusion.. :)
I havent been around much, My daughter is in Huntington Beach California with my digital camera so I am working with a 35 mil.. Thanks for the insites. Shell
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Wed, May 31, 2006 - 10:19 PMI just uploaded one called "Peruvian Children" that used a motion blur to what I think is a good effect. -
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Wed, May 31, 2006 - 10:47 PMYep, in this case the blur reveals the little girl has just lowered her head onto the shoulder of the dhild next to her -showing us in a "still" picture a movement that emphasizes the sentimental nature of the image.
Blur can be used to create a feeling as was suggested: mystery, emotion, movement. However, images that are completely blurred more often create a problem for the viewer's eye -it keeps looking for an anchor point of clear focus. So, many people don't like "full blur" images.
Usually its important to have your subject in focus (at least a significant portion of). The exception is well illustrated by Richard's Peruvian Children photo.
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Thu, June 1, 2006 - 6:20 PMcheck out "eddy" a lucky shot? or a moment of zen? -
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Thu, June 1, 2006 - 6:23 PMI like that picture. Very nice.
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Fri, June 2, 2006 - 12:43 PMI use blur a lot in my photography. Mostly it's because I use slow film, so I almost have to. Since it's impossible to know how the shot will come out, try a bunch of exposures. Just play. The Zen image wil reveal itself. Here's a fun blur that I did as a self portrait at an airport. By having one element in focus, the blur doesn't become the subject, but helps to tell the subject's story...
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Tue, June 6, 2006 - 8:17 PMI love to show movement in stills, with a blur or crystal clear. I feel an image is "dead" if it doesn't show movement.
I have added some shots taken at a Mexican rodeo 2 week ends ago.
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Wed, June 7, 2006 - 12:33 PMHi Marie, thanks for posting your images.
I'd like you to know this isn't meant to be a negative critique, I would just like to illustrate a point about the use of photographic (blur in this case) effects by referring to your shots...
First, for the sake of discussion we (in this thread) would do well to be clear about what perspective we're talking about when discussing these "effects." Professional (commercial) standards are one thing -artistic is another.
From an artistic standpoint, the artist's intention and artistic expression dictates the use of "effects" and the extent of that use. After all, its the artist who is making the photographic statement, he/she can choose to accommodate art-buyer preferences (whatever these may be) or not depending on whether or not the artist is concerned about image sales and the degree of comfort the artist has in accommodating these preferences without impinging on his/her "artistic integrity."
From a professional, marketable, standpoint, clients have standards they impose which dictate an image's "acceptability" and therefore the photographer's image success. Editors, publishers, art directors, have their own variances in what they will accept or not, but in general there are a few basic guidelines/rules to go by for aspiring pro-photographers.
In the case of photo-effects, including blur effects, usually less is more. And usually, they want the subject in focus with the exception of motion blur to illustrate a key aspect of the subject and the image (i.e. the race example earlier in this thread).
Looking at the rodeo images, there are the following observations:
If the RODEO is the subject then the blur of the entire frame can be effective in showing the action of not only the bull rider, but also clowns and excited spectators. However, having something in focus (non-blurred) like the sponsorship signage or the stadium railings would make it more acceptable to the viewer's eye (which looks for the stability of a visual "anchor" of sharp focus). Otherwise, in the circumstance of providing this image as illustrative or editorial use, it looks like a photographer mistake or technical shortcoming.
If the rodeo RIDER is the subject then blur of the bull and rider is expected and highlights the tremendous energy associated with the scene. However, as in the case above, its good to have portions of the image in clear focus, non-blurred. In the case of the rider being the subject more clear focus image real estate is desirable, to further focus attention on the subject.
An interesting technique, especially in lower ambient light situations, is to combine flash with a slower shutter speed. The flash will stop action of the subject, the slower shutter speed (set properly) will allow enough ambient light to register to give a motion blur effect. If you set the flash strength properly and the shutter speed correctly you can balance the flash effect so it is only slightly noticeable, resulting in an image that highlights the motion of your subject, clearly displays the subject, and doesn't "over-effect" the background.
Keep on shootin'
and having fun!
...my two cents
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Wed, June 7, 2006 - 3:41 PMwhen i was snapshoting animals while i was zookeeping, i'd use high speed film so there wasn't a blur; this was mostly so that i and others could see what the critters looked like. granted, when blown up, they were grainy....but i was taking them mostly as a record, certainly not for pro or commercial reasons.
i must admit i do enjoy blur in some photographs, though...
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Wed, June 7, 2006 - 5:47 PMPoint taken. Thank you for the criticism. It can only help me get better and better at this!
Marie-Pierre
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Sun, October 8, 2006 - 11:18 AMI went to a band competition and right after I took this picture I thought about deleting it but thought about this thread. It's not a great picture but kind of cool.. its my niece in motion and I like it:
people.tribe.net/620c3482-...23b2eab18b
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Thu, October 12, 2006 - 4:34 PMI'd like to see your swordsman, but I guess I don't know where to look.
One of my favorite blur to denote action by slow shutter speed and following the subject: synature.smugmug.com/gallery...8/Medium
But this one is simply the blur of slow shutter speed, camera on tripod. The effect is quite nice, though, I think.
people.tribe.net/redwoodtw...9b79ae16c4
This one gets a lot of nice comments, and is yet a different kind of blur: The subject was simply too fast for the shutterspeed.
synature.smugmug.com/gallery...1/Medium
The first two were intentional, the third was a happy accident. Mostly I prefer sharp and clear, but sometimes blur is very effective, normally only when there is some sharpness that sets it off.
Like the decisive moment, you can try to plan for a shot, but whether or not you get it depends on so many factors that only lots of shooting will get you to the point where once in a while they work, they come out as intended.
It's been hard adjusting to the delay in digital work...
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Tue, February 13, 2007 - 1:37 AMUta Barth is a master of the deliberate use of blurred, out-of-focus photography. I find her work quite fascinating and powerful, along with several of her other series, and started to do some work along some of these lines myself before I'd ever even heard of her.
www.geocities.com/johndoeclone/676/
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Tue, May 29, 2007 - 11:01 PMWhen I look at the pictures I made and delete the bad ones, I do not care for or think about sharpness, cut off body parts, photo's too light or too dark, bleached out faces/skies, etc, or at least not at first and not very consciously. When I see a photo I have my doubts on I rationally start to ask myself if I can make it better in Photoshop or that it's useless. Sharpness could be an issue then, but sometimes I have photos that are not sharp (or otherwise do not fit the golden standard etc) and I keep. However, I rarely make a blurry photo that I really like. Photographers that can make them are rare to me as well. Local blurriness can be nice sometimes, though.
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Wed, July 11, 2007 - 6:40 PMI lean towards the artistic side of photography, utilizing non-standard lighting, gelled flashes and optical filters as well as Photoshop filters and effects.
rano.us under 'photos'
--Kenn
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Mon, December 31, 2007 - 5:52 PMHere's an example of a "happy accident" that I took full advantage of.
It's almost the reverse use of movement that Sunyata was referring to in one of his earlier posts in this thread.
In this shot both the model and I as photographer were stock still for a 4 second duration,but I had a fan on her blowing her hair all about...
ou8nrtist2.deviantart.com/art/A...454962
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