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GIVE Richard Dawkins a child for a week’s summer camp and he will try to give you an atheist for life.
The author of The God Delusion is helping to launch Britain’s first summer retreat for non-believers, where children will have lessons in evolution and sing along to John Lennon’s Imagine.
The five-day camp in Somerset (motto: “It’s beyond belief”) is for children aged eight to 17 and will rival traditional faith-based breaks run by the Scouts and church groups.
Budding atheists will be given lessons to arm themselves in the ways of rational scepticism. There will be sessions in moral philosophy and evolutionary biology along with more conventional pursuits such as trekking and tug-of-war. There will also be a £10 prize for the child who can disprove the existence of the mythical unicorn.
Instead of singing Kumbiya and other campfire favourites, they will sit around the embers belting out “Imagine there’s no heaven . . . and no religion too”.
Dawkins, who is subsidising the camp, said it was designed to “encourage children to think for themselves, sceptically and rationally”. All 24 places at the retreat, which runs from July 27-31, have been taken.
Afternoons will be filled with familiar camp activities such as canoeing and swimming but the mornings will be spent debunking phenomena such as crop circles and telepathy.
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...=2015164
The author of The God Delusion is helping to launch Britain’s first summer retreat for non-believers, where children will have lessons in evolution and sing along to John Lennon’s Imagine.
The five-day camp in Somerset (motto: “It’s beyond belief”) is for children aged eight to 17 and will rival traditional faith-based breaks run by the Scouts and church groups.
Budding atheists will be given lessons to arm themselves in the ways of rational scepticism. There will be sessions in moral philosophy and evolutionary biology along with more conventional pursuits such as trekking and tug-of-war. There will also be a £10 prize for the child who can disprove the existence of the mythical unicorn.
Instead of singing Kumbiya and other campfire favourites, they will sit around the embers belting out “Imagine there’s no heaven . . . and no religion too”.
Dawkins, who is subsidising the camp, said it was designed to “encourage children to think for themselves, sceptically and rationally”. All 24 places at the retreat, which runs from July 27-31, have been taken.
Afternoons will be filled with familiar camp activities such as canoeing and swimming but the mornings will be spent debunking phenomena such as crop circles and telepathy.
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...=2015164
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Sat, June 27, 2009 - 8:32 PMI dont know how I feel about that. Dawkins is pretty stereotypically-angry-strong-atheist-radical as it gets. On the other hand, if "Jesus Camps" are OK then there's no reason to prohibit this. -
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 2:46 AMYeah, perhaps you see him that way, I do not. However, at least he has a little empirical evidence to support his position. You might notice, unlike what the subject title of this thread proclaims, the main thrust is skepticism. We need more skeptical, critically thinking, reasoning people, not fewer. They make better voters too. -
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 5:32 AMYou noticed the subject line as well. I just used the one from the article. Funny how the news organizations always set the tone and hence the reception of the 'news' in the tag line and first paragraph. This has especially been true recently with economic news. Lipstick on a pig indeed. Not Dawkins the economy.
I welcome more camps that teach thinking over brainwashing from one old poorly written book of legends. -
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 9:37 AMIIRC he's only providing funding to an existing scheme, and not even him really, his foundation rather.
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 12:37 PMtit for tat, eh?
I'll start a camp that insists that green is the best color, and our ubergreen kids will come kick atheist *ass* during the campalympics. In your *face*, rich kids!
Imagine the rollicking joyous good times being had at Camp Skeptix. -
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 8:31 AMI have an idea - lets see what the camps web sights have to say.
www.camp-quest.org.uk/
www.camp-quest.org/
The program has been in existence for some time in the USA. This is just the first venture into the UK.
In the end it is a matter of choice what kind of camp parents want to send their children to. -
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 3:46 PMChoice... Choice. There can be no choice in the eyes of god. There is a focus on your family and you will take heed. -
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 4:24 PM>Choice... Choice. There can be no choice in the eyes of god. There is a focus on your family and you will take heed. <
Dan........Dan.........Is that you?
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 8:03 AMI think a camp like this is totally necessary, especially in the US and increasingly in the UK.
One does need to learn to function in the world as an athiest...how to deal with family, friends, co-workers and to be with other athiests so you don't feel so isolated as a kid and so forth but ALSO to get a scientific education of sorts out in nature itself because they may not be teaching it in schools anymore.
As "Jesus Camp" and Jesus Schools increase, the ignorance needs to be counterbalanced. -
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Re: Dawkins sets up kids’ camp to groom atheists
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 11:34 AMMy parents accidently sent me to a Pentacostal church camp because they were friends with another couple who was sending their daughter. I have never let them live it down. Attending church 7 times a day is complete indoctrination and I watched as other kids who were happy to be there were taught how to speak in tongues. If anything, going to that camp at age 11 helped me to realize how ludicrous fundamentalism was. Unfortunately many of the other kids were already drinking the KoolAid.
I'm so happy to see any alternative that offers to teach people how to be skeptical of the media, of government and of anything that they read or watch on television. Better skeptics = better voters = better democracy.
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