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Commander: al-Qaida in Iraq is at its weakest
By ROBERT BURNS
AP Military Writer
The al-Qaida terror group in Iraq appears to be at its weakest state since it gained an initial foothold in the aftermath of the U.S.-led invasion five years ago, the acting commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East said Wednesday in an Associated Press interview.
Army Lt. Gen. Martin Dempsey, who assumed interim command of U.S. Central Command on March 28, acknowledged that al-Qaida remains a relentless foe and has not disappeared as a serious threat to stability. But he said an accelerated U.S. and Iraq campaign to pressure al-Qaida has paid big dividends.
"Our forces and the Iraqi forces have certainly disrupted al-Qaida, probably to a level that we haven't seen at any time in my experience," said Dempsey, who served in Iraq in the initial stages as a division commander and later as head of the military organization in charge of training Iraqi security forces.
"They can regenerate, and do from time to time," he added in the interview in his office at Central Command headquarters.
Dempsey was in Iraq last week on a journey that also took him to Lebanon, where he consulted with the government and military commanders on their approach to dealing with Iranian-backed Hezbollah fighters.
In separate remarks at a military conference just a few miles from Dempsey's headquarters in Tampa, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the Islamic extremist movements like al-Qaida have been "built on an illusion of success" yet in some ways pose a more daunting challenge today than on Sept. 11, 2001.
Gates described these extremist groups as more diffuse and less reliant on a single figure like Osama bin Laden.
"It has become an independent force of its own, capable of animating a corps of devoted followers without direct contact," Gates told an international conference sponsored by U.S. Special Operations Command. He said this adversary is now "capable of inspiring violence without direct orders."
Dempsey, who was the Central Command deputy until Adm. William Fallon abruptly resigned amid reports that his views on Iran differed with those of the White House, is expected to remain as the acting commander until Gen. David Petraeus shifts from his post as top commander in Iraq, probably in September. Petraeus's Senate confirmation hearing is scheduled for Thursday.
Earlier Wednesday, the Army general who oversees U.S. commando operations in the Middle East said that al-Qaida in Iraq has yet to be vanquished but is increasingly running out of places where local Iraqis will accommodate the group's extremist ideology.
"Is he still a lethal and dangerous threat to us? Absolutely," Maj. Gen. John Mulholland said in an interview with reporters at the headquarters of U.S. Special Operations Command, the organization with global responsibility for providing Army Green Berets, Navy SEALs and other commandos to combat terrorism.
Of the approximately 155,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, about 5,000 are special operations forces, who not only hunt and attack terrorist targets but also help train Iraqi security forces and work with local Iraqi governments.
Mulholland acknowledged that al-Qaida, which U.S. intelligence says is led by foreign terrorists but is populated mainly by local Iraqis seeking to establish a radical Islamic state, still poses a major challenge in the Mosul area of northern Iraq and has occasionally slipped back into areas like Anbar province in western Iraq.
"Do we think he can at least try to regain a foothold in Anbar province? Yes, we do think he's trying to do that," Mulholland said.
While U.S. officials do not believe al-Qaida is succeeding in re-establishing a significant presence in Anbar - which the group was forced to abandon a year ago as local Sunni Arabs turned violently against it - it does appear that small al-Qaida cells can still slip into isolated areas and make trouble, he said.
"I don't want to paint a picture - or to convey to you in any way - that al-Qaida in Iraq is being completely destroyed or rendered irrelevant, because that's not the case," he said. "They are still potentially a threat capable of death and destruction against the Iraqi people and our own forces there. But it is not something he can do easily any more."
Separately, Adm. Eric Olson, the commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, told a group of reporters that "the nature of the threat" posed by Iran's support for anti-U.S. forces in Iraq is unclear.
He made the remark in response to a question about the ability of U.S. special operations forces to meet the Iranian challenge.
"It's clear that there is some lethal aid originating from across the Iranian border," Olson said. "We can't say what the origin or the source of that is. So we are uncertain about our overall ability because we are uncertain of the nature of the threat. But I would say in general that special operations forces are well prepared and well equipped to meet the nation's expectations in that regard."
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By ROBERT BURNS
AP Military Writer
The al-Qaida terror group in Iraq appears to be at its weakest state since it gained an initial foothold in the aftermath of the U.S.-led invasion five years ago, the acting commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East said Wednesday in an Associated Press interview.
Army Lt. Gen. Martin Dempsey, who assumed interim command of U.S. Central Command on March 28, acknowledged that al-Qaida remains a relentless foe and has not disappeared as a serious threat to stability. But he said an accelerated U.S. and Iraq campaign to pressure al-Qaida has paid big dividends.
"Our forces and the Iraqi forces have certainly disrupted al-Qaida, probably to a level that we haven't seen at any time in my experience," said Dempsey, who served in Iraq in the initial stages as a division commander and later as head of the military organization in charge of training Iraqi security forces.
"They can regenerate, and do from time to time," he added in the interview in his office at Central Command headquarters.
Dempsey was in Iraq last week on a journey that also took him to Lebanon, where he consulted with the government and military commanders on their approach to dealing with Iranian-backed Hezbollah fighters.
In separate remarks at a military conference just a few miles from Dempsey's headquarters in Tampa, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the Islamic extremist movements like al-Qaida have been "built on an illusion of success" yet in some ways pose a more daunting challenge today than on Sept. 11, 2001.
Gates described these extremist groups as more diffuse and less reliant on a single figure like Osama bin Laden.
"It has become an independent force of its own, capable of animating a corps of devoted followers without direct contact," Gates told an international conference sponsored by U.S. Special Operations Command. He said this adversary is now "capable of inspiring violence without direct orders."
Dempsey, who was the Central Command deputy until Adm. William Fallon abruptly resigned amid reports that his views on Iran differed with those of the White House, is expected to remain as the acting commander until Gen. David Petraeus shifts from his post as top commander in Iraq, probably in September. Petraeus's Senate confirmation hearing is scheduled for Thursday.
Earlier Wednesday, the Army general who oversees U.S. commando operations in the Middle East said that al-Qaida in Iraq has yet to be vanquished but is increasingly running out of places where local Iraqis will accommodate the group's extremist ideology.
"Is he still a lethal and dangerous threat to us? Absolutely," Maj. Gen. John Mulholland said in an interview with reporters at the headquarters of U.S. Special Operations Command, the organization with global responsibility for providing Army Green Berets, Navy SEALs and other commandos to combat terrorism.
Of the approximately 155,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, about 5,000 are special operations forces, who not only hunt and attack terrorist targets but also help train Iraqi security forces and work with local Iraqi governments.
Mulholland acknowledged that al-Qaida, which U.S. intelligence says is led by foreign terrorists but is populated mainly by local Iraqis seeking to establish a radical Islamic state, still poses a major challenge in the Mosul area of northern Iraq and has occasionally slipped back into areas like Anbar province in western Iraq.
"Do we think he can at least try to regain a foothold in Anbar province? Yes, we do think he's trying to do that," Mulholland said.
While U.S. officials do not believe al-Qaida is succeeding in re-establishing a significant presence in Anbar - which the group was forced to abandon a year ago as local Sunni Arabs turned violently against it - it does appear that small al-Qaida cells can still slip into isolated areas and make trouble, he said.
"I don't want to paint a picture - or to convey to you in any way - that al-Qaida in Iraq is being completely destroyed or rendered irrelevant, because that's not the case," he said. "They are still potentially a threat capable of death and destruction against the Iraqi people and our own forces there. But it is not something he can do easily any more."
Separately, Adm. Eric Olson, the commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, told a group of reporters that "the nature of the threat" posed by Iran's support for anti-U.S. forces in Iraq is unclear.
He made the remark in response to a question about the ability of U.S. special operations forces to meet the Iranian challenge.
"It's clear that there is some lethal aid originating from across the Iranian border," Olson said. "We can't say what the origin or the source of that is. So we are uncertain about our overall ability because we are uncertain of the nature of the threat. But I would say in general that special operations forces are well prepared and well equipped to meet the nation's expectations in that regard."
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Thu, May 22, 2008 - 7:05 PMGas is over 4 bucks -
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 6:35 AMThe surge worked. The surge of prifits for Halliburton, The surge of deaths in Iraq. The surch of inflation in the US The surge of forclosures under this administration. Every surge you can immagine ahs worked under this president. That sound you hear is the surge of water washing this country down the crapper. -
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 8:24 AM************The surge worked. The surge of prifits for Halliburton, The surge of deaths in Iraq. The surch of inflation in the US The surge of forclosures under this administration. Every surge you can immagine ahs worked under this president. That sound you hear is the surge of water washing this country down the crapper***************
Your crapper isn't subsequent to Iraq. Iraq has been paid for ( in full) by the next several decades of the economies of India China and the Arabs. The US won't pick up more than a few pennies on the dollar for Iraq. This was the genius of GW and Rove and Cheny. They stuck the fucking Chinese with the cost of Iraq. And the Chinese accepted it.
The crapper in question is subsequent to greed, selfishness, and lack of discipline.
And those failures aren't just on the part of Government it's you, me, Wall street, the government, and every one else.
No one it seems in this country has had the foggiest idea about the level of leveraging they have undertaken and the ramifications it carries.
The people ( that'd be people like you and I) leveraged themselves to the hilt sucking the equity from their homes and depleting their savings to acquire short term temporary shit such as to increase revolving credit debt, get fancy kitchens & appliances, meals in restaurants, nicer and more cars - - - you name it it has all been short term temporary valueless horse-shit.
The bankers displayed those failures by failing to examine the veracity of the income claims made by the persons and companies to whom they lent money.
The government (both Republicans and Democrats) have been spending like a pimp with a week to live because GW was holding them hostage to their greed saying essentially: "Support my Iraq conflict & I'll sign your pork bills with no questions asked." And he did. So they handed him nothing but spending spending spending and most of it was horse-shit pork.
At almost every turn people at every level have been consumed by selfishness, greed, and lack of discipline.
And now Obama wants to make it worse. Cause you god damn know full well that there is only one force of nature capable of telling people that they have to cut back and sacrifice now that they have got themselves addicted.
It's a depression.
The only force powerful enough is that force that can not be resisted.
God knows no politician is going to embrace that third rail and tell people that they have to fucking cut back and live lives that are less opulent more meager and harder.
Since the 1980's any fool with eyes and ears could observe that all of America has been on a spending spree. It seems that every one wanted to lives the lives of the rich and famous - so they borrowed money from others who wanted the same thing.
The result is that every one is over leveraged and has a debt service level that is unsupportable. We all owe more than we have.
Hell, a very great in many instances we owe more in interest than we can earn.
So now what?
Obama puts us all on the dole? Is that our answer? More debt?
The only answer is that everything has to be cut back - way back. Spending at every level has to decline.
This means at your level as well as at the corporate and the government at levels.
Because I can promise you one thing for sure:
India and China may have accepted he risk that they will pay for Iraq but they won't keep it up any longer than they nave to. And they are coming of age. They will not be forever beholden to the US dollar. It'll last a few more decades maybe even 5 or 6 but unless something terrible happens to them they will step out of the third world. when that happens whey will no longer be compelled to have US Bonds in their national treasuries as the fundamental basis upon which they float their currencies.
The US and every one in it has to cut back dramatically.
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 8:02 AM****************Gas is over 4 bucks************
Well Hellooooooo There are 85 Billion Gallons of crude produced and the world wants 87.
No matter how much The US cuts back the Chinese and Indians just snap it up. There's gas lines in China and India. India has a major election coming up and China has the Olympics and a disaster. Neither of them will be reducing the subsidies on fuel they currently have so they aren't going to reduce their demand any time soon.
The Saudis won't do what they did the last time when the USA got really serious about coal conversion - because they can't.
The USA is sitting on what may be the world's largest oil reserves in the Dakotas and Montana as well as the Green River shale and shale in Colorado.
Brazil just found a reserve that is many times what the Saudi ever had that will be producing in 10 years or less.
And there's still Coal.
Fuel doesn't have to be at $4.00 But even at that, it's still god damn cheap. -
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 6:06 PM<The people ( that'd be people like you and I) leveraged themselves to the hilt sucking the equity from their homes and depleting their savings to acquire short term temporary shit such as to increase revolving credit debt, get fancy kitchens & appliances, meals in restaurants, nicer and more cars - - - you name it it has all been short term temporary valueless horse-shit.>
Please speak for yourself. I never leveraged the equity in my house because I put down a lot of cash when I bought it. The only leverage was selling it for twice as much cash. I don’t have a single credit card and won’t. I stopped working for the consumer industry because I wanted to stop being part of the problem. So please talk about your problems not mine since you have no clue about my life.
The citizens of this county did not have a choice when G.W. Bush took on massive debt to fund a war based on lies. SO it is not our doing it can be laid squarely at his feet and the feet of a Congress of cowards that refused impeach him.
Lay it at the feet of the fools that elected him for a second term when even a dog barking on a street corner would have been a better choice.
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 10:13 PM>>"Our forces and the Iraqi forces have certainly disrupted al-Qaida . . ."
What really reamed Al Qaida in Iraq was the betrayal of the Sunni sheikhs. When they changed sides, most of Al Qaida's supporters turned into enemies, and their safe home turf became enemy territory. This hadn't much to do with the surge, however. -
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 10:57 PMAgain, Forrest cuts right through the crap. -
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Sat, May 24, 2008 - 12:44 AMAlso, considering that Al Qaida wasn't active in Iraq prior to the war, it doesn't make much sense that the US stopped it.
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Sat, May 24, 2008 - 7:37 AM******What really reamed Al Qaida in Iraq was the betrayal of the Sunni sheikhs. When they changed sides, most of Al Qaida's supporters turned into enemies, and their safe home turf became enemy territory. This hadn't much to do with the surge, however.
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The US played a major role in that transition. To turn away from Al Qaida, two really huge factors came into play. The Sunni's got sick of being attacked and they learned that the US was trustworthy.
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Re: Well that surge didn't work - - or did it?
Sat, May 24, 2008 - 8:05 AMThe U.S. had been struggling to win Sunni confidence for years, without much success. What turned the tide was growing Al Qaeda hubris and brutality, which alienated former supporters. This was already taking place before the surge:
In Anbar, AQI became the occupier, shaking down truck drivers and extorting shop owners. In the young sheik's zone, AQI controlled the fuel market. Each month, 10 trucks with 80,000 gallons of heavily subsidized gasoline and five trucks with kerosene were due to arrive. Instead, AQI diverted most shipments to Jordan or Syria where prices were higher, netting $10,000 per shipment and antagonizing 30,000 shivering townspeople. No local cop dared to make an arrest. The tribal power structure, built over centuries, was shoved aside. Sheiks who objected were shot or blown up, while others fled.
In late 2005, acceptably-trained Iraqi battalions began to join the persistent Americans in Anbar. AQI resorted to suicide attacks and roadside bombs, and avoided direct fights. Sub-tribes began to kill AQI members in retaliation for individual crimes, and discovered that AQI was ruthless, but not tough. Near the Syrian border, an entire tribe joined forces with the Marines and drove AQI from the city of al Qaim.
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