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For tomorrow's service at his church in Kentucky, a pastor has invited his congregation to bring along their Bibles, a tin of canned food, a friend - and their guns.
Ken Pagano, who packs a pistol of his own, wants his parishioners to openly wear their firearms at the New Bethel Church in Louisville to mark the 4 July Independence anniversary and celebrate the part guns played in the making of the nation.
The unusual service has brought a mixed reaction, welcomed by many gun owners but widely derided elsewhere with fellow pastors and victims of gun crime questioning whether it is appropriate to carry weapons in a church.
In a phone interview today, Pagano said: "I do not see any contradiction. I do not see any incongruity as a Christian. It is not unbiblical. It is not illegal. And it is not unconstitutional."
Pagano, a 49-year-old former marine, acknowledged that bringing guns to church was uncommon in modern culture but said in New England in colonial times there were racks at the back of the church for rifles for militia men. America's founding fathers had a genuine belief in arms, he said: "I stand in that tradition and I am proud of it."
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Ken Pagano, who packs a pistol of his own, wants his parishioners to openly wear their firearms at the New Bethel Church in Louisville to mark the 4 July Independence anniversary and celebrate the part guns played in the making of the nation.
The unusual service has brought a mixed reaction, welcomed by many gun owners but widely derided elsewhere with fellow pastors and victims of gun crime questioning whether it is appropriate to carry weapons in a church.
In a phone interview today, Pagano said: "I do not see any contradiction. I do not see any incongruity as a Christian. It is not unbiblical. It is not illegal. And it is not unconstitutional."
Pagano, a 49-year-old former marine, acknowledged that bringing guns to church was uncommon in modern culture but said in New England in colonial times there were racks at the back of the church for rifles for militia men. America's founding fathers had a genuine belief in arms, he said: "I stand in that tradition and I am proud of it."
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www.guardian.co.uk/world/20...urch-guns
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Re: Kentucky church prepares for celebration of God and guns
Fri, June 26, 2009 - 9:22 PMIt may be a good opportunity to shoot some anti-abortionist before they shoot other people. -
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Re: Kentucky church prepares for celebration of God and guns
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 8:35 AMthis is from a region that still believes that civil war re-enactments
are really relevent for teaching their kids,,,,however if you took away
their porta-potties they'd go home, lift a car hood up and all their buddies would
show up like seagulls bringing cases of beer,,,my wonder bread years were
spent in kentucky, so i know what i'm talking about,,,and this is also a place
where any guy with a bible thinks they know all they need to know, so really they
aren't that much different than those who wave a koran and blow up schools,,,
both these " religions" love their guns,,, -
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Re: Kentucky church prepares for celebration of God and guns
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 12:18 PMExtremists in any religion are a dangerous lot especially with guns in hand. Unfortunately it has been deemed unpatriotic to challenge the Christian fundamentalists in our own nation and view them with the same question that we regard Islamic fundamentalists. Its the absconding of religion (any religion) by extremists that have led to most problems in the world. But challenging a Christian for warped beliefs is considered wrong for some reason.
Hopefully there will be an interesting protest outside the church on Sunday. -
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Re: Kentucky church prepares for celebration of God and guns
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 12:45 PM<< America's founding fathers had a genuine belief in arms >>
Very true. Their collective belief in God, however, was much less definite.
<< But challenging a Christian for warped beliefs is considered wrong for some reason. >>
They're not on the approved enemies list and are thus exempt from any Two-Minute Hate the media might organize. -
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Re: Kentucky church prepares for celebration of God and guns
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 1:54 PMI still think that churches should be paying taxes. -
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Re: Kentucky church prepares for celebration of God and guns
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 2:50 PMDamn straight. Tax them Tax them Tax them!
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