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THE POLY TANTRIC LOVESTYLE by Janet Kira Lessin www.worldpolyamoryassociation@aol.com

2008-08-19T16:55:41Z

THE POLY TANTRIC LOVESTYLE by Janet Kira Lessin www.worldpolyamoryassociation@aol.com
Consider a tantric poly (= polyamorous--loving two or more) lifestyle where you share tantra–sacred sex. A polytantric lifestyle. We’ve considered it and we live it. We advocate it as an option for all.

We’ve explored on our own and heard thousands of poly-loving and tantric people. We’ve shared experiences and led scores of alternate relationship and sacred sex conferences and seminars. In our seminars, we’ve used humanistic and transpersonal psychology as well as tantric meditation to explore multi-lover relating to aid our spiritual synergy.

Many couples today explore polyamory and swinging. Ever-increasing droves of people flock to conferences, new clubs, websites, private "lifestyle" and "playcouple" activities all over the world.

Most paired-up people who swing or love in a polyamorous triad or moresome enhance their erotic and romantic connection with each other. Some couples, however, seek the lifestyle for the wrong reason–to fix their dysfunctional relationships. In such couples, rather than improve their sour relating, polyamory or swapping may trigger breakups. But most pairs who sample polyamory or the lifestyle deepen their love and intimacy with each other when they love others.
Genetic tests show most humans’ actual behavior is not sexually exclusive with monogamous mates. Our sexual behavior resembles that of our genetically closest primate, the chimp-like Bonobos. Like Bonobos, we couple with multiple partners, though unlike Bonobos, who openly copulate in front of their sexual partners, humans more often hide their non-monogamous coupling from sight and knowledge of their mates. Such hiding reduces the intimacy of relating between the cheater and his or her mate.
Most humans are actually covertly polysexual (more than one sexual partner), while only some, albeit a swelling number, are overtly polyamorous (one than one love in their life).
Most of us keep loving lovers even after we or they end our sexual connection. I love everyone I’ve ever loved and most people who come to me for therapy continue loving those they've loved in their lives.
Our hearts open and we love those we make love with, especially if we regularly enjoy sex with them. We fall in love with people with whom we share sex. We humans--male or female--develop affection, warmth, desire to enjoy one another time and again when we make love over and over with each other. We naturally bond. We love.
Society’s realizing the falseness of old beliefs, beliefs like the belief that most of us are faithfully monogamous or the belief that you can have sex without becoming fond of your lovers. Instead, as the growing polyamorous and lifestyle couples attest, We all have a huge capacity to love and enjoy sex. Many of us are more than able to love many and have tons of sex at the same time. I learned by making love with others while I’m still in love with my husband that I’m ever more turned-on to lovemaking.
Many people nowadays stop connecting sexually with their spouses. I’m a counselor. At least ten times a week couples complain they don't make love anymore. Why? Do we simply get bored with one another? Are we angry? Resentful? I know from my own past and the experiences of those I counsel, that partners who still live together but don't connect sexually with each other still love each other. They panic when they consider leaving no-sex spouses who used to make love with them, because they still love them. They’re friends, comfortable with one another. They mix finances and perhaps raise children together. They know and love each other’s relatives; they share friends and interests together. They don’t want to lose what they’ve built. They don’t want to sell their homes, divide their holdings. So many reasons to stay together, crazy to part just because they stopped sharing sex with each other or because they love others.
Counseling helps non-sexual couples open to sex with each other again. Tantra can also help rekindle their desire; I highly recommend it. But what really enthuses a couple to juicy sex with each other is swinging or polyamory. Couples return home to each other, turned-on from their erotic encounters with others and screw each other’s brains out for days. When they f*ck like minks, chemicals flow, they feel close and feel again in love with each other.
I used to be on the polyamory-only bandwagon. But after intensely studying the swinger movement for the past nine years, I see they’re onto something. A strange piece of ass, watching your partner with someone else, touching two or three people at the same time, doing more than one at a time, breaking taboos, or stretching beyond your own boundaries turns people on.
Sure, there’s jealousy. That’s also human nature. We can use, then get over jealousy. Hang in there with your jealousy, ride it, experience it, feel it, talk it out and never make yourself or your lovers wrong about their feelings and soon you laugh seek sexual adventures together. Like explorers, or hunters on the prowl, together you’ll discuss who’s attractive, what’s attractive and actually be able to act on attractions if you chose.
I suggest couples trying polyamory or swinging stay together as they explore other loves. That’s what works the best for us. If you’re at all insecure, it can be harder for you to relax when your partner goes offstage with another lover, easier if you all share loving in each others’ view and, even better, co-participate. Couples who watch and share each others’ excitement build ever-more desire for each other.
Swinging may be too far out for some of us. Living together with more than one mate may be just as far out for others. A few couples whom we see regularly is the poly lifestyle that works best for Sash and me. I like getting to know new lovers on a very deep level and can do this living separately. Living with anyone but Sasha is hard for me; I get anxious with too many people around all the time. I’m a private person, need privacy, peace and quiet. So living apart and loving together now and again is fine with me.
Of course there’s a time for many to be monogamous for parts of their lives. I’ve done it and enjoyed it–for awhile. Though some folks are even happily monogamous all their lives, few love and want sex only with one person their entire lives. We may be mono (one), amorous (loving) part our lives. But cultural conditioning makes many of us continue monogamously despite the death of sex in the monogamous relationship and despite the fact that we have non-monogamous fantasies, desires and affairs. I have friends who fear losing face if peers knew they considered multi-lover intimacy.
However, if we humans are truthful, at least to ourselves in our own hearts, we are going to have to admit, one and all, that we have feelings and attractions for many, many people in the course of our lives. And when we get to that point, where we’re real with ourselves, than perhaps we can begin to forgive those who do what we dare not, and quit being so sanctimonious. Instead of shaming our politicians and celebrities, realize human nature. Bill and Hillary Clinton are probably in an open marriage. Bill just got careless. If they could talk truth, we’d progress light years.
Using modern DNA testing, we found 99.9% of all the species are non-monogamous. Our genetic cousins, the Bonobos practice polyamory, swinging and bisexual sex. We’re similar. Hospitals using DNA tests find many a dad on the birth certificate isn't the biological father.
Polyamory’s a high spiritual practice. So’s swinging. One swing club in Northern Washington State has a Goddess Ritual where a woman takes on all comers. She seats herself on a swing chair with an endless supply of condoms and the men line up out the door. Some women have been known take on 40 or 50 men during this ritual. She ends up in an enlightened, altered state of consciousness.
Besides being a high spiritual practice and very sexy, being polyamory and couple playing are fun. Cut lose and play as you might have when you were a kid playing outside on a hot Summer eve. When you’re all careful about STD’s and respectful, honest, courteous, kind, loving and playful with one another, you can make love in a puppy puddle with the same abandon you had when you were little playing football, wrestling or King of the Mountain. Poly’s fun.
Janet Kira Lessin, Chief Focalizer of the World Polyamory
Association, is featured presenter at the annual Harbin Hot Springs
(CA) Polyamory & Tantra Conference September 11-14. She and hubby
Sasha offer a workshop entitled " RITUALLY EVOKING FEMALE
EJACULATION IN A POLY POD CEREMONY"at the Conference and leads
the panel discussion, HOW WE DO POLY.
See www.worldpolyamoryassociation.com for details

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Looking for a friend

2008-08-01T00:40:42Z

Hey everyone, I'm looking. Anyone interested?

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I need you... for our discussion group!

2008-07-28T07:47:40Z

Online discussion & support group for LGBTQQ pagan and Wiccan folk in the Pacific North West:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/magickalqueerness/

I hope you will drop in & drop a line... we have friendly folks... come by and meet 'em!

Peace,

Serena

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New Here

2008-07-24T22:30:19Z

Just saying hi

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New forum for bi women in Portland Oregon and open to any bi women anywhere!

2008-07-19T20:30:06Z

One month ago three fantanstic womyn decided to try to start a new group for bi-females as the last bi groups that had formed had disappeared. It looks like this one it here to stay as within the last three week it has grown from 3 members to 55!!!! The first meet was held this past Sunday and 12 beautiful womyn attended. We now have a social event planned this Friday at a local lesbian/gay club and a BBQ party and more and more. If you are bi, poly, or even bi supportive come join us! Site is http://www.gettingbipdx.com/

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Bisensual - Poly - Novice

2008-07-16T21:00:28Z

I'm a 24 year old woman currently in a 2 year open relationship. My boyfriend has a girlfriend and they've been together for over a year. I, unfortunately, have yet to enjoy a romantic and sensual relationship with a woman. I say "bisensual" becomes sometimes I have more of an urge to be close, romantic and affectionate with a woman than "sexual." I mean, I have had sex with women in the past and its been great but my sexual desires are stronger for men than for women. I've always believed in the ability to engage in romantic, intimately sensual (or sexual) relationships with more than one person. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a community that agrees with this lovestyle and is supportive (and I live in NYC!) I would just love to meet and be around people who have similar backgrounds. Question is,

anybody out there?

:-D

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Made my bed, now I have to find it...

2008-07-13T12:10:12Z

Hey, do you know the story about the middle-aged guy who has a boring sex life with his wife? OMG another one of those. However, I like to think that in this case the same-old same-old diverges, since I'm not looking to replace her, or lie, but just go exploring, honoring the parts of our marriage that still work, while learning more about who I am. It's the process of realizing that I can't change her, that I still love her, and I've got another few years before I dry up, so what to do?

Well, longish story in brief, I found a girlfriend who didn't need me as a husband, and when she asked me "What is sexual activity do you wish for, that you haven't engaged in yet?" I honestly answered "Sex with two women at once." (Insert sound of audience clapping hand to forehead here)

"Well, then," she said, "that's your homework, before we can be together. You have to go find a hot babe duo and learn what that's all about . Get your ya-ya's out, and if you return to me, I'll know we're meant to be together."

Sigh. On the one hand, knowing myself and what step of the journey I am on is a good thing. On the other hand, it makes it so I am terrifically pent-up. And no, masturbation is just so not going to cut the mustard.

I suppose the most sucky part is that I have a very hard time with casual sex. Never done it. I've always cared for, and usually was in love with, my partner. Great for marriage, hard for dating. So I almost don't want to find a pair of HBB's who (in the incomparable words of Heatherlyn) "OMG just want to satisfy all the man's sexual fantasies," because I already have 2 women I love and who love with me, and I'm struggling just to get that to work out.

It sure is tough being a member of the over-supply of married, middle aged horn dogs. Sure wish my wife discovered the reason she's not into me is because she's into women. But I didn't write this script, I'm just living it with as much integrity as I can. My current idea is to ask my GF to go clubbing or to a cuddle party or LGBT event with me, and be my wingman; does that increase the creepy, or lessen it? Of course, suggestions are welcome, and snarky comments expected.

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Craigslist: Frustrating at best? Any successes? Share...

2008-07-09T13:55:23Z

So, looking for The Unicorn, still. We are heading to Club Kiss this weekend, but we still peruse the CL casual encounters w4mw section- has anyone EVER had any luck here? Or should I stick to OkCupid or friends?
Anyone found somebody who's NOT a picture collector or a single male from Utah on CL?

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transcendingheteropatriarchalconditio

2008-07-03T16:28:49Z

ningandmergingintotribaltranssexualpolyamory.....

and this has much less to do with sex than it does w the subconsious politics of sexual conditioning.

alliances of friendship, which are built on trust and information sharing, create bonds more powerful than mating. the common duration for the mating cycle in the hetero-nuclear family is aproximately 2-5 years. and it is endured w an intensity that seeks to own that which is temporary and beyond our control. this mindset promotes the illusion that our love, our lives, our children, our community, and our resources are separate; to be shared or withheld based on our fickle understanding and faulty reasoning.

male-hetero conditioning has us busy purchasing love w a down payment in the form of the cost of our time and gifts to lay at the feet of our new idol. but it is a down payment toward "ownership". if the recipient accepts, then she accepts the terms of ownership. it is understood that her friendship is not what is being purchased. if she dares to offer friendship, then consumer consiousness will emerge in the form of hostility.

these terms of agreement are unconsious. they have been acted out for miscegenations, by far preceding the days when the "bride" was purchased from the father in trade for material goods.

in order to keep "the feminine principle" powerless, she was offered "security" and the allegiance of mating while being deprived of her essential nature, which is to network. any attempt at networking was kept in check by the exclusivity of male bonding. which is why men are still so threatened by m-f transexuality. at an unconsious level it represents and end to the world as we know it. and we are on the way to decontructing our unconscious psycho-sexual mechanisms. it is time that they were thouroughtly explored, and, time for the apparent inherent limitations to be questioned. exclusions have not yet been eliminated with this new paradigm, but will hopefully lighten as coupling no longer becomes the norm. think about it: what if women in estrus copulated w everyone she shared attraction w n her tribe. who's children would they be? and how does homosexuality and transgenderism affect the new generations and tribal reconstuction? and this is not a green light for "free love". love w/out boundaries comes w a cost: it is not free. and this is not a promotion for mindless, uninhibited orgies which promote std's.

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Another Newby Asking for Advice!

2008-06-20T02:03:44Z

Hello there,

I've been reading a lot of these posts and other posts on polyamory in an attempt to learn more about it and if it's for me. I am in a committed relationship of 2 years now and we are going to move in together in a few weeks. We are both madly in love but we are both still pretty young. We want to stay together but both have the urge to explore new things. We have excellent communication skills and I think we could handle another person in our life. He is still a little hesitant on the idea, but is starting to warm up.

Okay, so I guess I am wondering if you have any tips for the beginnings of this exploration, or for introducing my boyfriend to the idea and making him feel more comfortable? I won't sacrifice our relationship, but the time feels right for this.

Thank you for any advice and for being open!
-Christina

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A brand new life

2008-06-18T20:21:18Z

Hi Everyone! Just want to introduce myself and say hi and maybe get some ideas from you all, I’m new to this tribe, actually I’m new to a whole lot of things right now. I just got out of a 10 year marriage (poly at times) and have an 8 year old daughter. I was so excited when I left him to go out and explore myself and embark on a new chapter of my life, now it's here and I’m finding myself at a loss of where to go and what to do.

I spent 10 years taking care of my husband and daughter (literally, he barely worked and not at all the last year) so my days were consumed with working and taking care of the people around me. I grew apart from most of my friends and had pretty much no social life. Now I’m free and all I want is to go out and meet people, be social again, live MY life. I've never felt so alive and vibrant!

I have found a new relationship that I’m really enjoying but I still feel the need to have a social life apart from him as well as with him. Anyone have any experience in this area? Have any of you gone through anything similar, if so where and how did you start rebuilding your life? Looking for a first step to take...I welcome advice!!!

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Camp Beaverton on the playa 2008: Our first Beaver Call of the year!

2008-06-12T22:49:26Z

Greetings, Beavers and friends!

Last year was Camp Beaverton's inaugural Burn. It was wildly successful and this year we'd like to see it grow and thrive. Camp Beaverton is the playa's home for queer women and allies. If you'd like to learn more about last year's burn, check out our tribe. If you'd like to participate in THIS year's burn, read on!

I'm Allison- the orange-haired Camp Counselor from last year's burn. I'll be helping organize our pre-playa planning this year, starting with our Beaver Calls. If you haven't been checking in on Tribe.net lately, now is the time to do so. We've already started some lively discussions about our presence on the playa, our intentions for this year's burn, and semantics about fundraising and shade structures. Your opinions are invaluable, so please pop on over to tribes.tribe.net/campbeaverton to get in on the action. As soon as Tribe gets with the program, I'll be taking over as moderator for the tribe. In the meantime, feel free to continue to contact last year's moderator Reid or me on the site. Or you can email me directly at this addy.

Our first organizational call will be happening on Wednesday, June 18th at 6pm Pacific Time/ 9pm Eastern Time.

You and anyone who may be interested in being involved with Camp Beaverton is invited to attend. Please RSVP on the Tribe (tribes.tribe.net/campbeaverton).

Call Date: Wednesday, June 18th
Conference Start Time: 9:00 PM New York time / 6:00 PM Los Angeles time
Dial-in Number to call: 1-309-946-5100
Participant Access Code: 81567# (hit pound after entering in the access code)

QUESTIONS? Leave me a Tribe message, or an email me at allison.moon(at)gmail.com

On the agenda for this call:

1. A brief history of Camp Beaverton and what we'd like to create for this year's burn
2. The role of Camp Beaverton within our parent camp of FreedomCommunity (tribes.tribe.net/freedomcommunityburns)
3. The Beaver Den and additional shade structures.
4. Fundraising
5. Events and activities.
6. Leadership positions and ways to get involved
7. Questions

This is the first in a series of calls to help manifest powerfully and playfully our queer oasis in Black Rock City this year.
Last year's burn and inaugural year for Camp Beaverton blew my panties off (if I had been wearing panties, that is). I would love to see us inspire even more playful, queer, totally rad energy this year. Please come be a part of it! And please FWD this to your friends who might be interested in what we're up to!
Looking forward to speaking with you all on the 18th...

Dusty tails,
~Allison

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HONOR THE WOMEN IN YOUR POLY POD by Sasha Lessin, Ph.D.

2008-06-01T23:15:42Z

HONOR THE WOMEN IN YOUR POLY POD by Sasha Lessin, Ph.D.

Here's one of the ways we play with our group of intimate lovers. We suggest you try it with yours. PolyWannabes, create group, rehearse. Let us know how your Honor the Goddess group goes.

Give yourself an evening for each woman, or a whole day to do each
woman in your lovegroup. Then let us on this site share our results
and develop love rituals from our collective sharing.

In a beautiful, peaceful, private space, gather the women in your
poly pod.

Ask one woman to volunteer as the first focus of this pattern. Each
woman takes a turn as the group's focus.

PREPARE YOURSELF AND THE SPACE FOR WOMAN WORSHIP

Givers, clean your nails. Brush your teeth afresh. If you're male
and clean-shaven, shave again; if you've a beard, shampoo it.

Dress to please the Receiver. Find food, drink, flowers and music
she'll like. Arrange the room to delight and relax her. Create a
large, padded lovenest. Place water, towels, massage oil and
internal lubricant next to the bed. Invite her to bathe while you
disconnect phones and adjust the lighting and music.

When she returns from the bath, each of you meet her gaze. Make eye-
contact with her as you adore her together.

Each of you say, in your own words--but poetic ones,"I appreciate
this opportunity to please and replenish you.

"May we undress you and see your body?" As you do, laud her looks
aloud. Then all of you disrobe too.

DEDICATE TOUCH TO PERSONAL AND UNIVERSAL HEALING

Invite her to lie down. Touch your right palms to her heart and put
her right hand on your heart. Rest your left hands on the back of
her right and tell her to put her left on the hands you rest on her
heart. Look into her left eye.

Tell her, in your own words, "We delight in serving you. We love
relating this intimately. May our adoration heal hurts we caused
you. May our hearts unite. Come dance with us, your devotees. Dear
Shakti, dance at the Shrine of the Yoni Nadi. There, together, we
transcend our separate self-senses and join the divine dance of the
cosmos."

"What words, "ask her, "have you to consecrate the worship we offer
your Inner Aphrodite, your loving, sensual, sexual self.? *** [Give
her time to answer.]

MASSAGE MADONNA

Then say, "May we massage you?"

As she stretches out on her belly, tug her toes. Rub her soles and
the backs of each leg. Do her fingers, palms, arms. Then massage
her back and her bottom.

Help her turn over. Dance your fingers over the tops of her feet and
hands, the front of her arms and legs. Brush her labia and nipples
as you glide your hands over her torso. Massage her face and head.

Stroke and knead the muscles inside the leg; Kneed the inside of her
legs, where they insert into her pelvis. Press your fingers deep
into the muscles above her pubic bone.

GET CONSENT TO TOUCH HER TEMPLE

Ask her to designate one of you to touch her Love Temple.

CONNECT ALL HER CHAKRAS WITH SACRED SECTOR ENERGY

All present lay hands on her. The person she chooses, her Giver,
rests their left hand on her HEART.

Giver, hold your right hand over her yoni. Imagine you send her a
beam of love from your eyes into her left eye. Breathe together
three times; then settle your hand on her mons.

Tell her, "I love you. Feel our hearts connect and energy vibrate
between us.

"I send you love as I breathe out; breathe it in, inhale my love."
The rest of the group breathes with the Giver and Receiver. Exhale,
then draw your navel back toward your spine and up. Tighten your
pubococcygeal and anal sphincter muscles.

Imagine, Giver, you send energy up your spine from your tailbone,
through your heart and out your right hand into her yoni. When you
inhale, feel the energy you have sent her move through her heart into
your left hand. Take at least three breaths where you send this
circuit of energy.

Keep your right hand on her yoni, your eyes on hers. Move your left
hand to her CROWN. Tell her you invite the Goddess of Love to enter
her crown and move through her central channel to her yoni-shrine.
Breathe together three times.

Move your left hand to her BROW, THROAT, BELLY and BASE chakras. For
each, take three breaths. Eye-gaze and imagine you connect with her
brow, throat, heart (again), then belly, perineal and sexual
chakras. Conclude these chakra meditations (mudras) with your left
hand again on her heart.

STROKE HER SACRED SECTOR

Tell your Receiver, "Relax on your back, Sweetheart. Breathe deeply.

"Let each of us gaze into your eyes.

If you like, I'll massage, then kiss your genital drapes and the
valence over your pearl.

If she says consents, say, "Make sounds and direct us with words;
give us feedback while I lick and stroke."

Stroke her outer labia. Roll her clitoral hood around the
clitoral crown; but don't stimulate the crown yet. When her outer
vaginal lips swell, revealing the inner lips, trace circles, spirals,
horizonals, verticals, diagonals, and figure-eights on them with your
fingers. Alternate long, short, inventive, sensitive and playful
strokes. Tap, knead and pinch the hood and labia ten or fifteen
minutes.

When the inner labia also become quite swollen with blood,
say, "Would you like me to polish your pearl?" (pearl = clitoral
crown). If yes, honor her yoni with your mouth and tongue. Blow on
her genitals. Plant baby kisses on her clitoris. Twill your tongue
round the crown and lick her labia. Lap into her yoni as you
continue gazing into her eyes. Salivate generously; lubricate the
orifice.

After twenty to thirty minutes honoring her yoni, say, "I'd like to
enter your sacred cave with this (right ring) finger." If she
agrees, lick your finger so it's quite moist (or use an internal
lubricant like Probe or neem oil). Place the tip of your ring finger
pad just inside her vaginal opening. Say, "Pull my finger in."

When you feel her vaginal muscles pulsing on your finger, let her
pull your finger into her cave. Curl your finger pad inside her yoni
toward her navel then back toward her inner legs, so it rests on her
sacred sector. Breathe together and keep your hand still for ten
deep breaths while you imagine that your finger reaches inside her to
her heart.

Begin a light "come here" motion with your ring finger; let the pad
of your finger caress the tissue that covers the sacred sector.
Trace, in thirty to forty strokes, the inner surface of the top and
upper front of her cave from cervix toward the top of her cave's
opening.

Then, for forty strokes or so, turn your wrist from side to side.
Trace a crescent over the sacred sector with your finger pad.

Sweep (turn your wrist from up to down) the left half of her cave.
Skim the front of your right ring finger from the cave roof to its
floor and outside door. Remove your right ring finger and insert
your left ring finger inside her yoni. With your left ring finger,
stroke the right half of the yoni roof.

After a few minutes, change your position to ease your back and
neck. Withdraw your left ring finger from her cave, and put your
right ring finger back in. Rub, tap, and touch all over inside her
cave. Stroke different levels of pressure, depths, speeds and
rhythms. Trace the throbbing veins and, deeper, arteries. Press to
the bone in each part of her cave.

After fifteen minutes, say, "Would you like one of us to pet you with
two fingers inside?" If she consents, curl the underside of your
right middle and ring fingers together along the roof-beam of her
yoni. Move your fingers down the transom over the door and out the
yoni, with a "come here" motion.

Then focus your fingers inside her on her sacred sector. You can
feel it through the inner vaginal wall, between the wall and the
pubic bone, above the orifice. The sector feels like a bean-sized
lump that may grow to silver-dollar size as you stroke it.

Initially, when her sector's stimulated, she may think (though she's
just emptied her bladder she needs to urinate. Let her try to do so
until no urine comes out.

Unite your fingers through her lower abdomen. Press your left hand
down on her lower belly just above the pubic bone. Feel her spot
swell between these fingers on her abdomen and those in her vagina.

If you find menstrual blood on your fingers, let her know you
treasure this intimacy. Dab some on each of your chests and thank
her.

The Receiver may enjoy all the touching. Some Receivers feel
indifferent to sacred sector massage at first. Most women, however,
savor some sacred spot stroking. Remember your Receiver's pleasure
points.

If you try this exercise, or something like it, please share on this
site what you tried and how it turned out.

Learn lots more at our POLYAMORY CONFERENCE, September 12-14
Harbin Hot Springs CA.

Workshops and presentations by
Drs. Gary Schubach, Steven Vouge, Anistas Harris, Dave Doleshal,
Harold (Haridas)Kornylak, Celeste Hirshman, and Sasha Lessin,
as well as
Janet Kira Lessin, Veronica Monet, Taber Shadburne, Gabriella
Cordover, Aisha Kassaoun, Paul Glassco, Danielle Harel, Kirsten Rose,
David Spero, Robert Allen, Amber Seitz, Carolina Fleishman, Paul
Planodon and even more tba.

www.worldpolyamoryassociation.com, worldpolyamory@aol.com 808 244-
4103

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big free box-o-sex-toys (Daly City, CA)

2008-05-29T05:56:44Z

So, I have a big old box of new, still in their wrappers massage toys, vibrators, lubes, shower gels, body sprays and various and sundry other goodies for play-time. Nothing very kinky or unusual, easily a few hundred dollars worth of stuff. I don't want it and I can't post it on Freecycle due to it's adult nature. I don't really think that the folks at Goodwill or the Salvation Army (ha!) would be too pleased with it as a donation either.

If anyone wants to come get it in Daly City, it's yours, but you need to take the whole box - I'm trying to clear out my apartment. First come, first served.

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Out of Ideas and Going Down Fast

2008-05-10T07:14:52Z

*sigh* alright, here's the deal. I'm generally one of the ones giving the advice, I'd hope well. This time though, I'm at the end of my rope. I don't know what to do to deal with this situation, and if I don't ask for some help soon there's the possibility I will handle things totally wrong.

Reading my profile and such, you get the impression that my wife and I are very open people. The fact is, this is only half... well let's call it 3/4 true.

I love my girl. I love her like the Sun come down from the sky. That said, there is a growing rift starting which unless I get it checked one way or the other is gonna do us in. I'll explain.

While I've got alot of history in sex-positivity, deviant behavior in general. It has historically been almost impossible for me to maintain a sheerly vanilla monogamous relationship. I think it's important to note (not trying to be egotistical) that if I set my mind to it, I am almost razor sharp at seduction. I spent 2 years as a pleasure slave, learning everything from how to do makeup on any ethnicity in the world to bringing a woman to orgasm with nothing but the muscles vibrating in my throat. (hard to explain, harder to teach. lol) I mention it's easy, because it being easy makes the entire situation harder.

Linz, while having her own wild side in her youth was more along the lines of your typical drug-induced deviant-high-school-sex kinda thing. To her, while she indulged me more than once, that was a phase she's done with. My first hot-button here is that due to that fact it's terribly difficult to deal with the fact that she can't share in what has been my lifestyle in one way or another for a loooong long time.

I'm starting to freak out, juuuust a little. I've toned myself down as much as I could. I've suppressed everything from my very certain bisexuality to my tenancy toward the Grey area that lies somewhere between polyamoury and swinging. This has been an issue between us for quite some time. In the beginning, Linz was down for the occasional playtime with a guy/girl/both kinda thing. Still, it came up quite a bit that I'm comfortable in quite a different zone relationship wise than we're currently at.

In the past, jabs were traded, but short of that no resolution was really reached. Time goes by, I keep quiet until I'm about to explode, I try and draw her out, it gets swept under the rug, repeat.

The reason this is more complex than a simple resolve-communicate-or-leave kind of scenario is that in every way... EVERY WAY other than this we're perfectly matched. No deviant encounter has ever led me to a girl I felt as well matched with.

Still, this is my life, this is my personality. I feel resentment growing as I continue to deny this part of my personality, this part of myself.

I've tried to discuss this with people before, most notably my best friend. She commenced to freak out on me due to a year-old threesome we'd all had, and we're now no longer friends.

Just pointing out, that so far all this situation has done for me is take. It's taking my sanity bit by bit. I'm getting a shorter and shorter fuze about the subject, and it's even cost me one of the most important relationships in my life.

In the past, I would just start cheating. You can judge me all you like for that. To me, it's a matter of getting by. However, as you can probably imagine that leads to eventual discovery and disaster. I've been down this road a few times with significant others. Cheating or no, this will eventually overwhelm us.

I just don't know what to do, or to say, to anyone. I could continue the way I am and wait until it's too much and I wrap myself around someone who gets the one part of me my partner doesn't. I could put my foot down and what will likely happen is she will aquiese, at least occasionally, just for my sake, for awhile. Neither of those options are really acceptable to me, but for the life of me I can't find a third.

So I put it to you, perfect strangers. My friends have failed me. My almost macchiavellian ability to agument any relationship with it's missing parts elsewhere is just not good enough for me anymore.

I'm lost. No solution in the past will work here, and I'm fresh out of ideas. I'm frustrated to the point of rage, and feel the time coming where I will sabotage anything just to save something. If linz is part of that everything I may as well fall on my sword right now.

It's maddening, to match someone so perfectly in all but one way.

Especially when it's this.

PS: I'm cross posting this like mad, so you may see it again. I need an idea, an answer. Hope for my situation. Otherwise, I'm not exactly sure I won't become ground zero, and everyone left in my life become casualties.

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dating a man and a woman at the same time? is that bad?

2008-04-27T21:51:46Z

hello everyone! i have a question i wanna ask and i hope this is the place i can ask. i would like the women's opinions for my question. i have been bi since i was a teen, but i have never had a girlfriend and i would like to have a meaningful relationship with a woman. i do have a fiance as well. he introduced me to polyamory about a few months ago, and i looked it up online. it sounds really interesting and i would like to try it.

i was in another forum about being bisexual, dating a man, and wanting to be in a relationship with another woman. a woman in another forum asked me why do i want to be in another relationship when im already in one. i said i have been looking too long for to be in a relationship with another woman, my fiance knew when we met that i am bi. why are some people upset that i want to be date a woman while i have a man? i have no intentions of leaving him, others were saying i should put my relationship aside and date other women. im like excuse me?

the question is for you poly bi girls, before you became poly, were you dating ur boyfriend and a woman at the same time? is it bad? i met some bi girls who had boyfriends and dated a woman at the same time, but was not poly. btw, i am 21 and my fiance is 27. out of curiousity, does the polyamory community go to gay pride festivals or do they associate with the gay community? im just wondering..

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new to this tribe....in limbo

2008-04-10T18:57:19Z

hey yall, im so gratefull for this tribe, I feel this is a great support for me being poly bi, any advice about telling your main man about who you really are? ive mentioned it before that i was attracted to woman but he wasnt really excited about me being with anyone else sexually even if he was part of it... im sort of in limbo..

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Bi- Ettiqute

2008-04-02T21:52:14Z

I have just recently allowed myself to be "open" about my bi-sexual desires. My boyfriend is open and understanding and very gentleman like about the entire thing. I sway back and forth from acting on my instincts and not because of the attachment I have with my guy... and I don't want to come across as a "creepy" swinger, cause that isn't it either. I think I struggle because of my own issues from growing up in a strict home and society. (the bible belt)

So, any help would be nice...
Main question... do I assume all woman to be open until they say otherwise? I mean come on, this isn't like baseball where there are hand singles given to the pitcher before he pitches. I know how to pick up a man... I am not so confident about picking up a woman. And how do I give off that I would like to be hit on by a woman if I also happen to be out with my man?

Sigh... meekly... help

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New Tribe: Age Play Between Women

2008-03-28T06:33:50Z

Hoping you'll join and/or spread the word

Thanks, GalaxyGirl

Age Play Between Women Tribe: This tribe is intended to be a place to discuss age play between and among women. In this context, age play refers to the exploration of affectional and/or sexual relationships between women who are in real life of the age of consent but who wish to role play relationships or interactions in which there is an age differential, such as mother/daugher, aunt/niece, baby sitter/girl, teacher/student, coach/player, etc. This tribe does not concern pedophilia, as all discussions are assumed to concern real life adults. Since there are other tribes that littles can join as littles, the moderator intends this tribe to be a place for adult discussion of age play.

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ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE

2008-03-15T19:21:27Z

I want to wish all of you, my wonderful virtual tribe of poly bi-love-ness,
Happy Valentine's!!

YES, no matter if you are coupled or single,
spread the Love, celebrate Love, and give Love,
to yourself and everyone.

it's a feedback love-loop, you get back what you put out!

big hugs and faery kisses,
...flora

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Need Some Advice

2008-03-15T01:33:31Z

Hi,

I really love my man. I mean like, more than anyone I've ever been with. Ever since we first met I've told him that I am able to love more than one person at a time, and at first he didn't really say anything about it but once we were deeply involved it came out that he thinks it's bullshit. I have been really gentle with him about it and slowly he became a little more open to it. During our whole relationship I have not explored another relationship with anyone else, because I have not really been that interested in anyone and because he just didn't seem ready.
He became friends with a girl he told me he found to be attractive, but insisted that he wasn't interested in exploring anything sexual or romantic with her. But then she came over to his place one night and they slept together. Since then there has been a lot of healing for both of us going on, but also he has been very adamantly against anything having to do with "polyamory", and has become very closed to the idea, I think a lot of it is because he may have a very distorted view of it, and doesn't believe it can be a healthy, wonderful thing.

OK, so, bear with me, sorry it's so long, hehe.

SO...I have never been in a poly relationship, I just know it's right for me and I have loved two people at once in the past. This didn't feel wrong and I never felt guilty about it, it just felt like it was natural and that everyone should be able to live happily with it. It made me feel sad when I felt like I had to limit my heart. But I was able to do it and still be relatively happy. I never knew there was other people who felt like me until a couple years ago when I ran across The Ethical Slut. Since then I have read a few other things and really thought about it and wanted it in my life. Now I had a context to put my feelings in and labels and everything.

I have been with a couple girls sexually, only one of which was also romantic and lasted a while before we broke up. But mainly I've been with guys in relationships that have lasted 1-2 years. The person I am with and I have been together for 1 so far. I have discussed my attraction to women with him, but only recently (like in the last 6 months) has the attraction, like...skyrocketed or something. Suddenly I find myself crushing on all these women. I am still in love with and very very attracted to my partner, but have begun to feel like a raging bisexual and I am scared to act upon these feelings because my lover seems unopen to the idea. I'm almost beginning to feel guilty for having these desires and half the time they even haunt my dreams.

Now, I am not saying he's COMPLETELY closed off from the idea (because he told me *before he cheated on me*, that he may be open to it once he gets comfortable with the idea, and lately he's asked me out of curiosity how it would work, if I WAS with another woman), just kinda confused and I think he might have some ingrained beliefs that prevent him from accepting it...I dunno. But I can't just tell him to go read a book or check out this website about polyamory or bisexuality or whatever, because he's busy a lot and has a short attention span with those things and it's almost like he refuses to read about it or explore it...

I guess I'm just asking for advice on what I can say to him. I've talked with him about this attraction and he basically says it makes him feel bad that I would want to love someone other than him. He says that he doesn't know why I bring it up all the time, it makes him feel uncomfortable, he'd rather wait until a situation arises with someone I like and he'll deal with it then. But I don't even want to open my life up and get to point where I could be in a "situation" unless he felt ok with a relationship occuring in the first place!

I've told him I won't ever explore anything with anyone unless he is comfortable with it and tells me so. I've never cheated on anyone and never will. I don't know what to say to make him realize that me loving someone else doesn't take away from my love for him, if anything it opens my heart further to really just being able to feel deeper love for everyone. I've told him exactly this before, and I guess I might have high expectations if I think he's going to suddenly jump up and hug me and tell me that what I'm feeling is ok with him to explore!

Another issue is that since he slept with another girl, I've felt feelings of jealousy I didn't know were there! I really feel like I've healed a lot and forgiven him for it, but forgetting is not something I can do and so I guess if HE were to explore something with another girl I would feel constant anxiety about whether he was respecting any boundaries we would have agreed upon. So he feels like there might be a double standard going on. But I don't really agree, because if he were to come to me and say, "wow i met this really amazing person" I know I would say, "ok, let's talk about this so that we can be ok with you exploring something with her." Yes, I would feel a lot more anxiety and jealousy than I would have before he cheated, but it's not anything I can't handle and am not willing to work through, know what I mean?

Everything I've written here is something I've told him and discussed with him, but still gotten an uncertain response about....
It's really hard to feel like I am unable to explore my attraction to women without hurting someone, and also hard that if I were to do that then I would have to sacrifice an already delicious relationship. Help.
ok *whew* done now. hit me.

Blessings,
Clover

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Safe Space

2008-03-04T17:10:40Z

We have a safe space available for a bi orientated submissive woman in our home. we are a couple who require a servant/maid to assist us in the daily upkeep of our large suburban home. All interested Women only will receive our reply!

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girls?

2008-02-24T04:06:39Z

If you don't mind me asking... Why isn't this tribe called "Poly-bi Women?" Aren't any of you all feminists?

Anyway, I'm new and you can call me formless. I am a polyamorous omnisexual male. If you wonder about the "omni" it means I don't think in terms of gender and especially not in terms of only 2 genders but rather find that I base my attraction mostly on peoples' characteristics.
I am from the coastal side of the Santa Ana Mountains in California and I am an animist. (Please do check out the Bio-regional Animism tribe. http://tribes.tribe.net/bioregionalanimism )
Love to all!

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navigating poly-bi-girldom

2008-02-14T03:47:22Z

So I live with my partner, who's male.
And I'm mostly into girls.
Now, that which is good- I'm meeting up with a few different women, different ages, different interests, over the next couple of weeks. Figured I'd see how things go, how we click, etc.
The culture here is not particularly poly-possibility. It's been interesting to explain to these women so far that I'm looking for something semi-serious, but that it's short term, and that I also have a live-in boyfriend. It'll also be interesting later, when/if I take anyone back here to the bedroom (we have two, for this reason and purpose, but I haven't actually followed through yet).
I'm curious- before I bring someone back, would it be better/less awkward to insist she meet my boyfriend, who she may well run into? That would be normal for me in California, but for a city used to cheating, it seems... weird. I'm not sure how to behave.
Additionally, I don't want to alienate girls because I have a boyfriend, but... I have one, and I'm not sure how to navigate those particular waters.
Any suggestions/advice before I need to stick my foot in my mouth? :)

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Between the Sheets - New tribe to discuss resources for enhancing sexuality

2008-02-07T01:32:11Z

Between the Sheets - Tribe to discuss resources for enhancing sexuality
Wed, February 6, 2008 - 5:19 PM
I've started a tribe to discuss resources for enhancing sexuality called "Between the Sheets." Between the Sheets is a place to share and discuss resources for enhancing sexuality -- books, movies, websites, blogs, workshops, events and related tribes. It is also a forum for the intelligent discussion of relationships, fantasies, preferences, alternative sexuality, sexual health, sex & culture, sex education and laws affecting the expression of sexuality. Come join us for juicy, intelligent discussion about everyone's favorite topic.

tribes.tribe.net/betweenthesheets

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Bi girl with a bi guy in Chicago

2008-01-28T03:45:54Z

Glad to find this community! Stop by and say hello if you like. We're happy together, happier to connect with others. We do that together. Aside from that, I am a poet and literary critic, sometimes my partner and I translate poems together, and we're both school junkies (humanities/social sciences). We live downtown and love to explore the city, theaters, the MCA... or, in this weather, go out to drink sangria and stay above freezing temperature. :)

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Poly Bi Boys tribe formed

2008-01-24T00:24:31Z

'Cause not just you girls deserve *all* of the fun.

http://tribes.tribe.net/8d2ee601-a709-4982-8bd2-9b35aee60312

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Wanna be our friend?

2008-01-23T22:15:05Z

Hello! My girlfriend and i are poly, bi, and doing the ever-elusive community in the bay area search. There seem to be a lot of cool, smart, and beautiful people on this site, and we are looking to connect with y'all. If anyone knows of fun parties, events etc., i would love it if you could let me know, and i'll do the same!
Many thanks,
Autumn

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A newbie all around

2008-01-19T20:50:06Z

I am new not just this tribe but all of Tribe.net. I am a bi-female in a poly relationship. First, being bi and poly living in a very conservative state I have to be careful who I talk to about my life. I am a professional photographer. I have run a large retail camera store and been lead photographer for over 15 years. I taught photography for many, many years and just recently quit my job to start my own photography business. The one thing about having left the retail camera world is I miss all the contact with other photographers and discussing what they are shooting and what types of equipment they like to use for what purpose. So anytime you want to chat about any of the above, please message me. I look forward to getting to know you.

Also since I am new to Tribes if you have a good tribe that you think I should investigate I would appreciate a steer in that direction. There seem to be so many tribes I tend to get overwhelmed just looking at the lists and forget what I was looking for in the first place. I am a major fan of Art, artistic people, photography of all types, belly dancing, writing, rugby, reading fantasy and fiction, hosting parties etc. If you have found a tribe that you really enjoy would you drop me a line so I can check it out so that I can get more connected. Thanks to all and I hope to hear back from you.

Jac

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Polyamorous films on the Playa

2008-01-16T09:18:05Z

Those of you that are polyamorous, I have created a new event for your enjoyment next year at Burning Man. It involves magic, fun, creativity, and a camera.
Check out the site for details...
www.jeffdeveraux.com/pfc

If you have any suggestions, let me know.

Ciao

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Curious...

2008-01-03T17:35:08Z

Any free spirited open minded nonjealous and secure Poly-Bi-Girls in the Sacramento area here? I'd love to make more friends with similar lifestyle as my own.

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new year..

2007-12-31T20:37:10Z

So do people have New Years Eve plans?
Are you the type to make a resolution?

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helllooo...

2007-12-27T01:33:23Z

Hello new poly bi girl here!
I would love to make some new friends and possibly meet up with old ones also!

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The 12 Poly Days of Christmas!

2007-12-22T00:46:23Z

This is a very funny video poly person (and certified Cuddle Party facilitator, BTW) Anne Hunter in Australia, made. It's very cute (especially with the accents). I'm sure MANY of you might relate...

: )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlbki61OPco

The lyrics can be found here: http://elementalism.org/fun/twelve-poly-days.html

Merry/Happy Christmas, Solstice, Hanukah, Kwaanza, New Year, etc! And a
safe, rejuvinating, and poly season to you and yours...

Multiple smooches,
REiD

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which way is wich

2007-12-21T07:51:05Z

Any Poly-Bi-Girl In interested in a Poly-Bi-Guy? Hmmm, poly-bi-girl-guy with a poly-bi-guy-girl

who's foot is that , where that underpants come from, no those aren't mine...

Sounds like a load of fun, more fun than a bunch of poly-bi-girls and guys in a barrel P:

Bad Ash

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ask the submissive

2007-11-18T19:22:08Z

The Society of Janus, a well respected pansexual kink organization here in San Francisco is reaching out to the community at large for this upcoming panel discussion, moderated by one of our own. Please take a moment to consider this event:

Janus Presents: "Ask the bottom", an evening of Q&A with a cross- selection of local personalities on the bottom/submissive/slave/boy/girl/ property side of the SM Power continuum.

Tuesday, November 13
SF Citadel
8:00pm - 10:00pm (Doors open at 7:00pm)
$5 for Janus Members, $15 for non-members (you do not
need to be a member to attend)

What motivates a person to walk the path of slavery? What does a submissive want? What joys do those on the bottoming end of the equation receive from their relationships - and what frustrations? What are the differences that distinguish bottom, slave, boy/girl, submissive, proeprty, and how on earth do we come to those definitions?

Ever wanted to ask questions like these, or others? Then this is an opportunity to pick the brains of an awesome and distinguished line-
up of local SM community teachers, players, mentors and activists.

We have a terrifically diverse panel for you: jody / patrick / boyjean / mercedes / andrea / slavebill have all agreed to answer your questions and share their thoughts and motivations on why they do what they do. bethie Hope O will facilitate the questions and keep the discussion moving smoothly.

This will be a moderated discussion panel, with the opportunity to submit written inquiries anonymously as well as ask your questions
directly. Please join us for this rare opportunity to delve into the mind of these mysterious and intelligent people. You may also send
questions about the event or questions to be discussed at the event to programs at soj dot org

Bethie Hope O identifies as a service-oriented slave and adult little girl. She is very blessed to be a ollared slave to her Daddy for the past 2 years. Bethie believes in creating open, supportive communities and is active in both the BDSM and age play communities. She is honored to be an officer in the Society of Janus and she is the creator and moderator of Submissive Safe Space; a monthly discussion group comprised of like minded submissives and slaves. On-line Bethie moderates discussion groups for age play, submission and survivors of abuse and trauma. She lives in the East Bay area with her Daddy, four dogs, 2 turtles and an obscene quantity of stuffed animals. Her favorite crayon is cornflower blue, unsharpened.

slavebill has been an active member of the Leather Community for almost 20 years and is in his 12th year of service to his Master. he is a co-founder of the San Francisco chapter of the Defenders, has served on the Steering Committee of the Leathermen's Discussion Group and has participated in many workshops including Leather Levi Weekend, the San Francisco boys of Leather, and the Society of Janus. he was a co-sponsor of the Leather Traditions' Service Weekend held last May. In addition to being a 24x7 non-live-in slave, he has a non-leather partner of 25+ years who is understanding and accepting of bill's calling to service as a slave.

Steve Ward has been a member of the Bay Area Leather / kink community for 10 years. He joined the San Francisco boys of Leather in 2002, and was mentored by many of the more prominent Bay Area Dominants and submissives. Steve serves the 15 Association, as member of the Fraternal Committee and Membership Coordinator. He is also President of the Defenders San Francisco, is a steering committee member of the Leathermen’s Discussion Group, and a representative to the San Francisco Leather Forum. Steve has been involved with Leather-Levi Week-end from 2003 through 2006, on the Spirituality Committee, and organized their annual Cocktail Party to welcome newcomers to the community. In his spare time, Steve is a committee member of the upcoming Leather Leadership Conference 12, to be held in 2008 in San Francisco, and is on a newly-formed Bay Area ad hoc committee of the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom.
Steve is 55, single…..and always looking for new opportunities.

patrick was a late bloomer to BDSM. Growing up in a Catholic household in a small, rural Southern town, he had no clue that including hot wax, needles and rope to his youthful explorations of his body meant he was masochistic; it just felt good. Fast-forward to Folsom Street Fair 2003, where his heart melted and his cock hardened watching a Daddy flog His boy. Finally, after reading the "Beauty Series" pushed him to the point of no return, he had his first scene and was introduced to his boy-self. Since entering the public scene, he has had the good fortune never to have served a Dominant unworthy of his submission, and twice has proudly worn the collars of exceptional Men. Currently, he is a slave-in-training to Master Patrick Mulcahey, whom he knows loves and treasures him. he believes in the importance of giving back to his community, and when his work schedule and Master allow, enjoys volunteering at leather events.

andrea Arkouda started her lifestyle journey in 2003 in search of a relationship in which trust was valued above all else. For her, service and obedience are the avenues to achieving a deep interpersonal connection, and completion. she served her first Master for two years, and is now in service to and wears the collar of consideration of Eric Arkouda. With him, she lives a 24/7 M/s lifestyle, and together they host the San Francisco D/s Discussion Group.

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ask the submissive

2007-11-05T17:21:16Z

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Joining poly-bi-girls

2007-11-03T17:04:12Z

Just found this tribe and I must say yumm.

I am not sure what the procedure is of joining this tribe.

I look forward to connecting.

Much Love
Bad Girl Liz

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My poly-bi-girl needs a opera going companion...

2007-10-30T19:46:17Z

...and surprisingly, it isn't because I don't want to go with her. I often get free tickets (in the expensive seats no less) to operatic productions around the Bay Area, but can't sit with my love in the audience. Why? Because I am in the show. ;-)

She needs a friend to join her for these excursions. If it develops into an intimate relationship with her, great. Should it develop into an intimate relationship with us both, even better. In either case, you get to see some of the best singers in the world for free, and enjoy her company. She is 23, about 5'5", nicely shaped, long dark hair, pale skin with adorable freckles. She is enchanting, if a little shy.

Hope to hear from you soon, I actually have two great tickets for this Sunday's matinée of Tannhäuser.

Jason

PS An email address would be handy, no? artisticlicenseaj@hotmail.com

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bi girls

2007-10-24T22:38:09Z

they rock

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Joined and had not yet said hello

2007-10-21T17:19:45Z

Hi!

There are just so many wonderful supportive Tribes it's a trick to keep track of them all and remember whom you have introduced yourself to. I have had a fantastic time meeting many great folks in the North/East bay areas but would love to find some friends in the South Bay as well. I live in the bay area and have not had the best of luck this year with my journeys to San Francisco. I was hit but a driver in June and rear-ended again the first Tuesday of this month on the way to a friend's birthday party @ Land's End Beach. I have a feeling my husband is going to start grounding me to do more of my socializing closer to home. :P I hope to meet you all soon!

Dolphin Girl

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Lonely-ish in Texas

2007-10-19T19:57:09Z

I am married toa wonderful bi-poly girl who seems to be getting all the play (with guys) our luck with women has been very limited in conservative texas. anybody in dfw?

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Seeking queer triads for research!

2007-10-07T15:02:53Z

My name is Sunny. I am a graduate student in the Sexuality Studies program at San Francisco State University. I am conducting research on polyamory. The aim of my study is to explore how individuals in queer polyamorous triads discuss love in their relationships. I am in search of individuals in queer, long-term (one year or longer), polyamorous triads to interview. Individuals must identify themselves and their relationships as queer, and the triads must be three people who are all sexually and romantically involved with one another.

Participating in this study will entail a 45-90 minute one-on-one interview at a comfortable and private location convenient for both of us to discuss your experiences and feelings of love while in a triad.

If you are currently in a queer, long-term (one year or longer), triad relationship and are interested in participating in the study, please contact me!

smnordmarken@yahoo.com
(415) 516-0908

I am currently seeking people to interview! Please contact me as soon as possible if you would like to participate.

Thank you!
Sunny

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Hello....New here

2007-09-25T04:15:02Z

I am new to this tribe and thought I would say hi and introduce myself. Mystical Energy here, hope all is having a great weekend.

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Vegoose anyone?

2007-09-23T01:58:15Z

Anybody going to Vegoose this year? hmmm or will I be the only one out there? It's vegas, it's holloween ... what more can ya ask for.

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Poly -bi girl date for friday night?

2007-09-21T22:33:10Z

We are looking for a special lady to join us for date night... would love to exchange private emails if interested and have some phone dialog first. Thanks for looking!

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met a delicious girl

2007-09-21T17:36:29Z

I met this amazing woman yesterday. She's 6'3", loving, warm kind. I was blown away. I think she's bi, she's definitely poly. We had a long talk over some poly issues in her marriage. So weird...I felt attracted to her in that quiet soft way I feel attracted to women, as if there is no urgency or even necessity. It certainly wasn't the time or place to bring up anything about feeling attracted and yet I felt almost dishonest not saying anything. Confusing stuff. Anyone else dealt with these kinds of feelings?

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Bay Area Bisexual Network - new Tribe

2007-09-20T06:54:25Z

hi all,

we have a tribe now for BAY AREA BISEXUAL NETWORK; if you are in the bay area and want to participate in our REAL LIFE ACTIVITIES SUCH AS DINNERS AND BRUNCHES, please feel free to drop me a line and you'll get an invitation to the tribe.

it's private but NOT cuz we want it exclusive; we want it to be as inclusive as possible but we don't want any bi haters or wankers so we made it private so it couldn't be searchable by google. (everything not private on tribe shows up in google searches)

hope to see you at one of our events or on our tribe!

much love,

bay bi mod

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poly-bi-grrls playa party

2007-09-15T06:30:40Z

i know I've posted about this before, but here I am again, 6 weeks (less!) away from the Burn, thinking about it.

I contacted the Comfort and Joy camp, who seemed open to the idea. It may be too late however, because I kind of dropped the ball on pursuing it fully, because my own life got int he way, as well as uncertainties about me going. But I *will* be there!

since I've got enough on my plate, does anyone else have any drive to put something together, just a time and a place where we can meet each other for reals? =)

*giggle*

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Anyone up for a party in SF Saturday?

2007-09-15T06:25:47Z

This looks like fun! Anyone want to join me for a free party? I'd be up for a friendly (no-strings attached) kinda date, or getting a group together if people are interested.

Check it out!
http://sanfrancisco.tribe.net/event/SF-Queer-Playa-Reunion-this-Saturday-FREE/san-francisco-ca/2cb5d7f3-0ace-4715-9367-a15cea55bb39?tribeid=ec4da71d-dbcb-446c-ac5a-b7965dac2d15&nextpage=%24thispage

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Meeting bi-poly's

2007-09-15T06:10:05Z

So, I'm lovin' the vibe of this tribe so far, but I'm wondering where to find all the lovely, luscious, vibrant poly-bi-girls out in the *real* world? I live in the Bay Area so I feel like it really shouldn't be too hard, but I don't even have a clue...

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Get into B.E.D. with Gigi de L'Amour

2007-09-09T10:24:41Z

The Bureau of Erotic Discourse is on the job again this year, using fun sex positive messages to promote healthy sexual interaction and prevent sexual assault on the Playa.

In this episode Quin (that's me) talks to one of the founding members Gigi de L'Amour.
Gigi was a lot of fun to interview and the episode is very informative and hopefully just as entertaining.

This is only my second podcast for BURNcast ,Mama Crunchy was my first. So please let me know what you think.

A direct link to the MP3 version is here: http://blog.myspace.com/burncast
The enhanced iTunes / iPod version will be up late tonight here: http://burncast.net/

Big Love,
Quin

PS. There is a call for volunteers and for help with a logo. Go to http://bureauoferoticdiscourse.org/ for the email link and make sure to check out their hotpants!

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newbie here.....

2007-08-24T03:58:03Z

Hey ladies.

I am new here and wanted to say hi.
I live in the SF, CA area (san bruno). Poly, bi and so on.
Can't wait to get to know you amazing ladies....

:)

Cindy

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if you are involved with babn talk to me.....

2007-08-13T00:50:18Z

i have some news for you if you are involved with babn; i created a private tribe for us.

no wankers, no phishers. just babn news.

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Fruedian view.

2007-08-12T14:48:20Z

Ok, so a lot of us know about Freud and his view about how we "attract" to our "father" in relationships and men attract to thier Mother in relationships. I will try and find a link if people aren't aware of his writings/teachings/psychology.

So, if this were true for us poly-bi girls, that would mean that we would be attracted to someone "like" our mother. Perhaps this was the mom you knew when you were 5 yrs old, perhaps not the mom you knew today....or maybe she has past?

My question here is How is your relationship with your Mom? would you consider it good/bad/loving/hating? or just OK?

and of course:

Do you believe in Fruedian theory and do you think it holds any value?

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Girl/girl party details, Saturday, September 8th in Venice

2007-08-09T15:46:13Z

Come meet other sweet, open, sexy, interested ladies in a fun & safe environment! This time we'll feature complimentary martinis from our very fine sponsors, Dirty Sue and Kettle One, as well as wine, music and perhaps some new phone numbers. We had over 70 of Los Angeles' finest show up at the last one, so this one should be even better! This is for women only.

Pre-registering is suggested as space is limited (plus it's cheaper). Please do that here:
http://www.jensincero.com/Events.html

$20 if you pay in advance, $25 at the door.
Hope to see you there!

Saturday, September 8th, 8:00pm
Loja Designs
1409 Abbot Kinney Blvd.
Venice, CA 90291

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Married Poly Chicks

2007-08-09T05:53:39Z

This was said in the "Bi Curious" thread, but I think that I'm changing the topic enough that I should start a new post.

Kristin said:

"Being married doesn't change being poly. Most of the successful poly couples I know have been married for ages. It's all about the communication."

Exactly! I don't agree that most married women are cheating or looking for some icky, "discreet" liaison. Those people certainly don't represent me...I've been married for 17 years, and bi since I became sexually active 27 years ago. I've had three girlfriends since I've been with my husband and openly poly (and some when I was single, but nothing serious)... all of them long-term, and all of them on the table/discussed/agreed to/sharing holidays as a family/"real" relationships.

I've been seeing a lot of this lumping married women into the "bi-curious" category, and it's driving me nuts. Here, and on Craig's list, especially (which I don't troll, but a friend pointed out that a lot of bi-bashing was going on there right now). I know dozens of married poly-bi women, and NONE of them are doing anything without the knowledge of their partner. Also, none of them have ever indicated that they want to include their husband in some weird "I'm not really bi, so I want my man here to protect me" scenario, or whatever these people with strange ads are looking for. A lot of us are, very simply, bi women who happened to partner with a man first. So why is this connection being made?

And who ARE these people that are giving my kind such a bad name?? Are they even really women? Are they even really queer? Gah!! It drives me nuts, because I hate being pushed into the same category with "dabblers" or "trendy-bi women" or whatever....my life is NOTHING like that. I talk to people, I don't hide my girlfriend or my wedding ring EVER, I'm like an open freaking book, but still this idea persists that all married bi women are the same, and it's *really* frustrating.

Anyhow, this rant isn't aimed at anyone in particular...it's just that I've been seeing the bashing soooooo much lately that I finally had to vent. You poor dears are just the lucky recipients <lol>. I would seriously be interested to hear feedback on why you think this image has been created, though, and what, besides explaining my situation to everyone I meet (which I pretty much do), can be done to separate the regular married-poly-bi-woman from the "discreet-NSA-not sure if I wanna reciprocate" folks.

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introductions

2007-07-28T15:20:52Z

maybe this has already been done but i'm new to this tribe and wanted to introduce myself so i started a new thread for it.

hi, i'm kinnari from sf, ca, the most fascinating city i've ever lived in. i'm from the south and new to kink, being bi, and being poly. i'm loving all of the above.

i feel that "life is a banquet and some poor folks are starving to death" describes my background. i came from a loving crazy ass fundamentalist family and region. i have a love/hate relationship with the south and its people. but also a fierce pride about it.

i met radical fairies, and bi girrrrrrrrrls in the south and without them i would not be who i am. i gave a southern gal her first orgasm and i got my first women led orgasm in a threesome in a hippie commune in the south. so i'm here in sf where a poly bi girl can be out and proud. i love the energy of the bay area. i go to the ocean every chance i get.

and i go to haight and wander the streets imagining what it must have been like in the summer of love.

got to ride on the bi float at my first sf pride parade and it was hella fun!

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Seeking Loving Wife for Sexy Tantra Joyfull Polyfidelity Family in USA (35810) ---> Lets Connect Today!

2007-07-16T10:46:21Z

Greetings New Friends/Family!

We are a joyfull sexy Tantra Poly Fidelity Family here in
Huntsville Alabama 35810

We are seeking a new Wife(s) to share our love and life
in this poly fidelity family of living spirit!

Must be Fit, Healthy, d/d free, Positive-No Drama
and Love Love Love Tantra-Conscious Living!

If you are longing for a truely conscious family full of love fun and joy
that is long term, write us an email and let us know what you interest are.

All Super Mothers with Children are welcome, (we have children also!)
Lets build a lasting Friendship and create a wonderful conscious family together!
Light and Love!
Larry and Alberta

PS
if you would like to connect with us directly today,
please send us an email with your interests and some
pictures of you to atkinsonlarry@yahoo.com

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My Men Will Do What You Tell Them!

2007-07-13T09:12:29Z

My Men Will Do What You Tell Them!

Good boys!

Male Sex Slaves For Women
http://tribes.tribe.net/sexslaves

The rules they've agreed to:

All males in this group must follow the sexual commands of the women in the group that are within a 50-mile driving distance. If she says, “come over to my place and take off your clothes”, you do so even if she wants you to get naked in front of a room full of people. If she says, “give me a massage and then lick my pussy”, you do so. If she rolls over and says, “now, lick my butt”, you do so. If she says, “pleasure my friend,” you pleasure her friend.

Within this group only the females are allowed to make any kind of sexual requests or offers. Male slaves must have a picture of yourself in your profile and it also must contain your location. These rules do not apply to the women in the group.

There is also a private "Male Sex Slaves for Women" tribe set up for women, and the males at this site are also their sex slaves.

This Tribe is strictly set up for free exchanges. Fem-doms offering services that are tied to “financial domination” will have their advertisements deleted. Likewise any other advertisements for pay such as for pay porn-sites, professional dating services, professional strippers (male or female), etc. will be deleted.

Nothing involving pain, poop, minors, or that is unsafe is required of our male sex slaves, but all safe and sane sexual commands from our women are mandatory for men to stay in the tribe. Have fun!

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Hello!

2007-07-11T07:03:32Z

Just wanted to say hello and thank you all for all the great posts in this tribe. The one on STDs was surprisingly informative. Also, I'm now out of relationship and am sometimes feeling lonely. If you're looking for a guy with integrity (and you valued it also) I'd be happy to call or meet you sometime!

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Poly and Burning man

2007-06-30T19:48:19Z

so we have alot of burners here how does poly change or not change for you on the playa?

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how poly works for you

2007-06-23T00:16:13Z

Do you all find yourself identifying as polyamorous all the time, and dating to suit that?
Or do you date people and develop into polyamory?
I'm starting to wonder where I normally stand on polyamory, and if I even need a stance. Sometimes, I love it, but sometimes I just want sexual non monogamy, not emotional. And then I wonder if I'm a "twue" poly girl or not. I wonder if it just depends on who I'm with, instead of it being constant.
How do you guys see it for yourselves? Define first, or date first?

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