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Secession Crisis?

topic posted Wed, November 14, 2012 - 9:44 AM by  Rockstar
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The logic expressed below seems to be that it has now become necessary to reenact the United States in order to save it.

<<WND EXCLUSIVE
Secession madness! Now 40 states join petition fray
More than a half-million want their states out of the USA
Published: 16 hours ago

If any of the hundreds of thousands of people petitioning the White House in the blossoming battle over secession get their way, somebody is going to leave the union, either voluntarily … or involuntarily.

Ever since WND first reported that residents in the state of Louisiana had filed an online petition with the White House to secede from the U.S., residents in at least 39 additional states have filed similar requests with the White House to peaceably break from the union.

What’s more, a pair of contrary petitions have been added to the White House website, including one to “strip the citizenship” of those who have petitioned for secession and another calling for their deportation.

As WND reported, the first of the petitions was filed on the White House’s We the People website the day after the 2012 election by Michael E. (full last name not provided) of Slidell, La.

Since then, residents from the following states have added their own secession petitions: New Hampshire, Illinois, Idaho, Rhode Island, Virginia, Wisconsin, Alaska, Utah, Wyoming, California, Delaware, Nevada, Kansas, Ohio, South Dakota, West Virginia, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee, Michigan, New York, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama and Texas.

The White House website explains that once a petition reaches 25,000 signatures, it will be placed on a queue for response from the administration. The website also maintains a page for previous petitions that have received a White House response.

Some of the petitions have easily exceeded the required threshold.

The Texas petition, for example, has more than 80,000 signatures. The original Louisiana petition has topped 30,000. Florida has also crossed the threshold. Though the numbers keep climbing, the signatures for all 40 states now total at least 533,000.

The two petitions calling for the secession-sympathizers to be ousted total just more than 10,000.

The original Louisiana petition, which has served as a pattern for many of the new states, reads as follows: “We petition the Obama administration to: Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.”

It continues, “As the Founding Fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776: ‘When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.’”

The petition concludes with a further quote from the Declaration of Independence: “‘Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.’” >>

www.wnd.com/2012/11/sece...etition-fray/
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Rockstar
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  • Re: Secession Crisis?

    Thu, November 15, 2012 - 12:56 AM
    I usually wont read the world nut daily. They put so much bullshit in that you become less informed. But lets make them put money into their mouth is. If they don't like this country, leave. We've had too much of your bullshit.
    • Re: Secession Crisis?

      Thu, November 15, 2012 - 3:26 AM
      Who's we? Are you pregnant? Have you got a turd in your pocket?
      • Re: Secession Crisis?

        Thu, November 15, 2012 - 7:57 AM
        Just for a bit of trivia, I believe Texas is the only state that actually has the legal right to secede at will. Which is fine with me. However, I've always wanted my own state of California to secede. We have oil, food crops, and weed. We could be a world power. We'd probably have to cut off So-Cal tho - they're using too much water and not producing good enough entertainment. I can stick to British tv.
        • Re: Secession Crisis?

          Thu, November 15, 2012 - 11:26 AM
          Actually, they seem to have the legal right to break up into as many as five separate states but there is no clause for leaving the Union…or so the current rumors have it. I'm not sure I'm quaking in my boots at the prospect of Texas being broken up into several states. As for seceding, wasn't that tried before? Didn't work. So it's going to work this time because some right wing loons wish harder and harder?
  • Re: Secession Crisis?

    Thu, November 15, 2012 - 12:34 PM
    what will six flags do?
    • Re: Secession Crisis?

      Thu, November 15, 2012 - 9:38 PM
      "what will six flags do? "

      Ha! you'll need a passport between rides.
      • Re: Secession Crisis?

        Fri, November 16, 2012 - 11:14 AM
        HAHA!! And a drug test to use the pay toilet, no doubt.

        One of the few conservatives left with a partially functioning brain has this to say-

        << Secession: Confederacy of Dunces Plays into Media's Hands
        by John Nolte 14 Nov 2012

        In the wake of a brutal election loss, some of us are disappointed and want to lodge a protest -- I'm not unsympathetic to that, I get it, I really do. I got it in 2000 and in 2004 when my favorite sport was mocking left-wing movie stars who threatened to flee the country after Bush won. But therein lies the point: If conservatives are going to mock the disappointed who want to flee the country after an election loss, shouldn't we be doing the same thing now?

        While it's not fair, sometimes we really do have to take responsibility for our own and even those who claim to be our allies. Because if we don't, the left-wing media's going to do it for us. But only after it's too late and we've walked into the trap.

        Step 1: Some who share some of our political views overreact and do something dumb.

        Step 2: The left-wing media picks it up and turns it into a mainstream story -- a trap.

        Step 3: The trap works because the media exposure brings it to the attention of a bigger audience and suddenly 675,000 on our side overreact and do the same dumb thing.

        Step 4: Some on our side, while not agreeing with secession, treat the idea as something worthy of discussion. Now the issue has even more attention and even a whiff of credibility.

        Step 5: Now that hundreds of thousands are doing this dumb thing, the media and left (but I repeat myself) use this dumb thing to tarnish and marginalize the Right as a whole.

        Step 6: Just like with the Birther movement, suddenly, the only sound bite that comes out of Eric Cantor's appearance on "Meet the Press" has nothing to do with his intelligent, logical, and fiscally sound thoughts on tax increases -- instead, it's his never quite exactly suitable denunciation of the secession movement.

        Step 7: It's Katy bar the door with the Right's "secession problem" and all the racial connotations that go along with it.

        Step 8: Here we go again.

        How many Americans have died to protect this country and to keep us united? But what… because we lost a couple of elections and gained an ObamaCare we're going to grab our marbles and crybaby all the way home to Texahomastan? Wanting to cut and run from the fight for your country is cowardice.

        I'm sorry we live in a world where a biased media can take a fringe movement and tie it like a can to our tails, but this is the world we live in, which means that sometimes we have to very publicly point to these crybaby cowards and laugh at them, as though they were Alec Baldwin in 2004, packing for Canada.

        Because if we don't do this, the media's going to make us own them, whether we want to own them or not.

        These people are not only cowards for giving up the fight; they also get in the way of the fight, because the media uses them to constantly put us on defense and define who we are.

        Let the secessionists leave the Republican Party, or whatever the threat is this time. We have to immediately mock and marginalize these people, not coddle lunacy and sympathize with stupid. At least if they can't be associated with the conservative movement, they're somebody else's problem.>>

        www.breitbart.com/Big-Gover...-of-dunces

        Notice how quickly the Right went from "American exceptionalism" to "America sucks"?

        Speaking as part of this "Left" Nolte's on about, I'm perfectly content to let these secessionists continue to get in the way of his fight. I'm also prepared to let him and his bluebelly pals fire grapeshot into both GOP flanks. Go to, boys! Give each other hell!

        Not even Stonewall Jackson had opponents this dumb.

        Check out the comments section below. Comedy platinum, I tell you.

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