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I've been saying that for months, and it looks like I'm not the only one:
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Fri, February 20, 2009 - 7:32 AMAnd we have just the people to do go this job: Wall Street. They are after all used to working in a vacuumes .. moral, practical, and otherwise. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Fri, February 20, 2009 - 4:37 PMYeah and they'd find a way to f this up as well.
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Sun, February 22, 2009 - 1:27 PM
It doesn’t hurt to dream, but…
We are nowhere near the ability to do this efficiently. Energy is the main resource that we need, and that will not be found on asteroids. It would only be used up getting to them. And mining in space would be extremely dangerous due to potentially deadly solar wind, health problems caused by zero to extremely low gravity, and potential mishaps.
I support space travel and pure science, but realistically, at least for the time being, I think we need to be looking for economic solutions here on earth. If we did not have a capitalist economy we would not have the current economic crisis. In that fact lies the solution to the economic crisis. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Mon, February 23, 2009 - 2:25 PMSteven, we've been capable of doing this and colonising the solar system since the late 1950s, just lacking the will and the money. The potential return on asteroid mining is enormous. It might not be energy equal but it is resource equal and water-bearing cometary ice provides the necessary fuel for de-orbiting a mining vessel. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Mon, February 23, 2009 - 5:43 PMWe have been able to in to space since the 1950's but we have never been that capable of actually colonizing until later. Colonizing takes a great deal of expense, and it would take a huge amount of nonrenewable resources to maintain it. There is not a lot in asteroids that isn't present here. It will be a zero sum gain. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Mon, February 23, 2009 - 8:32 PMStrip mining the moon has always been a dream of mine. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Mon, February 23, 2009 - 10:36 PMDid someone say stripping?
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Mon, February 23, 2009 - 11:09 PMWe're exhausing our readily available materials on many levels. A single asteroid can contain as much iron as has ever been mined on Earth during human existence and much more readily accessible. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Tue, February 24, 2009 - 3:02 AM<< A single asteroid can contain as much iron as has ever been mined on Earth during human existence >>
If the wheels of industry are to turn and we are to achieve socialism (among other ambitions) by orthodox Marxian means, then that ore's got to be got.
Then again, orthodox Marxism has taken worse beatings. Still, for a likely fraction of what the Cold War cost, asteroid-mining could already have been a going concern. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Tue, February 24, 2009 - 6:48 AMWell I say brin one down here. Let's land it right in the center of Wall Street where it will do the most good. -
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Wed, February 25, 2009 - 9:02 PMIn a knee jerk moment I agree with the asteroid in the middle of Wall Street thing, except that it would actually kill millions or people.
But if we are talking abstract asteroids, then lets drop one on the abstraction called socialism too. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Wed, February 25, 2009 - 9:04 PMIf small enough to effect only the stock market, then there will be much more saved than killed. Even if it was just for a little while.
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Thu, February 26, 2009 - 8:04 AMThat's why I wanted to drop it on Wall Street. To get rid of socialism and get back to a form of capitalism. Of course if I had to choose between the fascism that currently exists and socialism I would choose socialism because I feel it is closer to capitalism and easier to get to a true capitalism from socialism than fascism.
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Fri, May 8, 2009 - 5:20 PM<< But if we are talking abstract asteroids, then lets drop one on the abstraction called socialism too. >>
People have the right to let fictional heavenly bodies plow wherever they will. The right to play God in your own imagination is vouchsafed by the entire might of the US government, its establishments and fusty traditions. If the Flag upon its Pole means anything more than a slightly demented bit of proto op-art reputedly designed by a reputed ancestor of mine, it means, by golly, gee and jingo, every American is safe to imagine a state of things altered whole or in part by whatever stage machinery convenient to hand. It's fair to say the domestic science-fiction industry would go bust otherwise! Imagine Jerry Pournelle getting a government bailout!
Imagining any further holes in Manhattan is of questionable aesthetic value, however. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Fri, May 8, 2009 - 7:50 PM"Imagining any further holes in Manhattan is of questionable aesthetic value, however."
This is very true, Rockstar. I would not actually wish the demise of any more real estate in Manhattan and was possibly a little insensitive in relishing the image. I have known B Dragon to make these kinds of statements more metaphorically than literally so it touched a funny bone. It's his brand of snark, I guess that I like. My sense of humour must have a dark macabre undertone, just now.
Apologies, if they are in order. -
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Am I making an asteroid of myself?
Sun, May 10, 2009 - 5:23 PMSeveral of my secondary tertiary satellite partners have weighed in that they are feeling very uncomfortable and need to process more (they've been freaked out since they realized BD was stalking Earth and had earlier masqueraded as a Koronis in an attempt to fool astronomers) but I'm not gonna get all out of orbit over a small blip in the solar system. Especially when my fullest moon is on a collision course with Uranus. -
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Are you referring to BD +20 307?
Mon, May 18, 2009 - 4:46 PM
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Collision course?
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Re: Collision course?
Tue, May 19, 2009 - 5:09 PM<< Given the large quantity of dust at BD+20 307, its
short lifetime in orbit, and its concentration to a narrow range of
warm temperatures (Weinberger et al. 2008), it is hard to escape
the conclusion that something with the mass of a terrestrial planet
was involved in a catastrophic collision, independent of whether
that collision took place between two isolated objects or inside
some sort of massive asteroid belt. >>
Trace exhaust from one of von Daniken's chariots or God's Own '73 Mustang.
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Tue, February 24, 2009 - 8:31 AM>>>>>>>>>>>>A single asteroid can contain as much iron as has ever been mined on Earth during human existence and much more readily accessible.
The earth is mostly made of iron.
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Mon, February 23, 2009 - 11:14 AMI wonder how much could be made by salvaging old satellites. Need a mission to recover some old ones and punt some crappy ones towards the sun. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Wed, February 25, 2009 - 9:00 PMYou're kidding, right? Not much up there actually, and the cost to get to them and get them back is astronomical (pun intended). -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Wed, February 25, 2009 - 9:07 PMWith current technology I would agree with you. but if there was a special unmanned shuttle, I could see the cost go down to earth. That was the only fraise I could say. Honest. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Wed, February 25, 2009 - 10:42 PMThe Earth is mostly made of relatively inaccessible iron that requires a lot of processing. Asteroids are far purer and easier to get at than much of the Earth iron. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Thu, February 26, 2009 - 3:45 PMI am waiting for them to put a pipeline down to the mantle and start sucking up all that high grade molten iron. That should be at least as cost effective as mining asteroids.... -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Sun, March 1, 2009 - 6:48 PMIn all seriousness, you must agree that an investment in one of these companies is as safe as any other under our current economic conditions. Safer probably.
The Near Earth Asteroids offer both threat and promise. They present the threat of planetary impact with regional or global disaster. And they also offer the promise of resources to support humanity's long-term prosperity on Earth, and our movement into space and the solar system.
The technologies needed to return asteroidal resources to Earth Orbit (and thus catalyze our colonization of space) will also enable the deflection of at least some of the impact-threat objects.
We should develop these technologies, with all due speed!
Development and operation of future in-orbit infrastructure (for example, orbital hotels, satellite solar power stations, earth-moon transport node satellites, zero-g manufacturing facilities) will require large masses of materials for construction, shielding, and ballast; and also large quantities of propellant for station-keeping and orbit-change maneuvers, and for fuelling craft departing for lunar or interplanetary destinations.
Check out this investment opportunity:
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Wed, April 8, 2009 - 1:42 PMI agree. Asteroid mining would require a pretty large initial investment, but it holds the promise of a pretty rapid and HUGE return. Asteroids also contain hydrocarbons. Even without the hydrocarbons there is an abundance of solar outside the atmosphere--all you need is reaction mass. Moon rock is full of mineral oxides, so combine that with hydrogen stripped from the hydrocarbons and you don't even have to ship water up.
And most of it could be done with unmanned craft. Pre-select your targets, send an unmanned craft out to give it a precisely calculated nudge to slip it into Earth orbit, and do the actual mining closer to home.
Then there's all the spin-off industries that would develop.... -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Wed, May 6, 2009 - 8:45 PM...and Willis is between films...he could do PR! -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Wed, May 6, 2009 - 9:09 PMLOL! -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 8:33 PMPlease! Take me if you must but I beg of you do not harm my family! -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 11:53 PMbwahahahahahahaha!
Fasten your asteroid belt. The Koronis family is space debris!
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Fri, May 8, 2009 - 1:38 AMI came here to Tribe tonight for the laugh I needed. Thank you all. -
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Re: Asteroid mining could help boost the economy
Sat, May 30, 2009 - 6:58 PMsomewhere out there is a whole *planet* made entirely of DMT
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