Dear Moms,
Two weeks ago a started a much needed group therapy/women's group, leaving my four month old with his dad from 5:45-8:15 PM on Tues PM.
Ronan usually never refuses the bottle from his dad and is usually not fussy when I leave during other hours of the day for an ocassional massage, dental appoint, etc.
The two evenings I have gone out, Ronan has cried for an hour or more without stop. Hubbie has tried all the tricks-baby refuses bottle, resists pthe pacifier, and cries and cries with increasing vigor. He eventually stops and gets a glassy eyed stare for a while unjtil I get home to nurse him.
Any ideas on how I can make a change for the two of them in this trying time? Should I just take baby to therapy? Should I call it off?
I'm not sure hubbie will be willing to try it again....but just in case you have any ideas..
Thanks,
Jade Moon
Two weeks ago a started a much needed group therapy/women's group, leaving my four month old with his dad from 5:45-8:15 PM on Tues PM.
Ronan usually never refuses the bottle from his dad and is usually not fussy when I leave during other hours of the day for an ocassional massage, dental appoint, etc.
The two evenings I have gone out, Ronan has cried for an hour or more without stop. Hubbie has tried all the tricks-baby refuses bottle, resists pthe pacifier, and cries and cries with increasing vigor. He eventually stops and gets a glassy eyed stare for a while unjtil I get home to nurse him.
Any ideas on how I can make a change for the two of them in this trying time? Should I just take baby to therapy? Should I call it off?
I'm not sure hubbie will be willing to try it again....but just in case you have any ideas..
Thanks,
Jade Moon
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Re: baby and daddy
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 10:03 PMdo they get enough time alone when you are home or busy? ronan is probably just used to having only you there to care for him. he loves his daddy, but evenings are hard for little ones. the stresses of the day have culminated & sometimes they just need to let it out. with a less-experienced papa on his own adding his worrying & stressing to the mix doesn't help. maybe they could go for a walk to cool out together.
at our house, solomon wakes up around 8am & tim gets up with him. mind you, he's already had an hour's worth of morning nursey while i drift in & out, so he's up & ready to go. tim makes coffee & reads his book while i sleep another hour or two (i know, i'm lucky) & they have one or two hours in which it's just them. i think this sets up for sol being less stressed out if/when i need to be away for any length of time.
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 5:13 AMi went back to work at 12 weeks pp ... it was HORRIBLE at the time, but i am so glad we all got through it with lots of worry on my part, some tears on abigail's part and lots of practice and encouragement on daddy's part, otherwise at 20 months i's be stuck in the house. ick.
anyway, it's hard and stressful for baby and daddy, but TOTALLY NECESSARY! whether it's work or personal time, the time they spend away from you is really important daddy/baby bonding time. they'll get to know each other's moods and needs .. daddy will become confident and baby will become trusting of someone other than you.
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 7:18 AMat 6 months my baby has/had the same issue. I get a night out from 6-9 on Thursdays and baby would scream almost the whole time with daddy. I started this about a month ago and its getting better. My hubby was getting frustrated but I told him that they need to learn how to spend time together. I also look at it as an opportunity for daddy to improve his ability to cope. In fact, when I would leave, I would worry and text and offer to come back in a moment's notice but not anymore.
Things are much better now and I agree that it is totally necessary . just try to relax and dad and baby will work it out.
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 9:20 AMI have dance class three nights a week, which total about 10 hours a week. During this time, my husband takes care of Cam and puts him to bed. The biggest thing I did was give dad the tentative schedule of what to expect for the evening, and then butt out, offering advice only when asked. It turned out that me worrying was actually causing my poor husband more stress because it said that I didn't believe in him.
I suggest them spending more time together, whether you are with them or not. My hubby also comes home from work and takes the baby for an hour while I make dinner without a little body underfoot. Most of the time this means reading books on the floor 10 feet away from me, but daddy's in charge. The best thing they do together is go for walks. Just strap the baby in a stroller or carrier (we preferred (before he got so big) a carrier or wrap because it promotes closeness and more bonding) and get outside. Even a 15 minute walk can do wonders for dad and baby in the mood department. Mostly, just consistency and repitition, and patience. They won't get better at it if they don't do it.
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 4:50 PMhey, i thought i had it good when trevor does a night feed on occasion! i'm going to see about this 8 am wake up time and then another hour's worth of relaxation! go kiss that man's feet. ;)
to the original poster, yeah, i'd say they just need time to get used to things. it sucks, in the adjustment period, but hey, kids are all about adjustments, right? (sometimes the chiropractic kind, heh heh)
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 6:01 PMhave him wear your robe or something that has your smell on it. paul wore my nighties for about a month when we started having him put cookie to bed (and take a bottle from him). it sounds masochistic and crazy, but it totally worked for her. -
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 6:45 PMsounds completely sexy to me, Lola..
<ahem> if you're in to that kind of thing, i suppose.
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 7:29 PMWhen Addie was really small, I would take a T-shirt of my husbands and would use it to cover her up in when I would nurse her especially at night, that way she associated mommy's and daddy's scent with her most favorite activity, and I'll tell you she is a total daddy's girl. Not that this helps the current situation at all, but I just wanted to share....
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 12:39 PMThats is a hard time of night for little ones but you being away then could be a really great thing. If daddy and ronan get to a place where they are both comfortable with dad putting him to bed it might just have a really healthy effect on your families sleep habits. Whether you co-sleep or not having someone other than you with the ability to put him down for the night will afford you the freedom to have some time for your self care. And that is a gift for everyone! It might not be easy now but they will find their groove *if you let them.* It's all about building the baby daddy bond so that he is a source of comfort , again that will happen only if you let them, and that bond is also a gift for everyone:)
Take it from me, a sleep depraved woman in the midst of trying to do this exact thing with 10 month olds: If you want to go to your women's group or do anything in the evenings in the next year or so you're gonna have to face this issue at some point. I say do it now because in your own words going to this group is much needed and giving yourself what you need is only gonna make you a better mother to both daddy and baby.
Much love to you and your family,
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 4:51 PMjust so you know, i take my baby to therapy.... but i'm not sure how a group dynamic would be affected by this. one on one, i say it's just fine. but group, well, that may be too complicated.
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 8:38 PMNot too much to offer, just that I know what you are feeling. Same thing happened here tonight...I tried to go out around dinner/bedtime and daddy had a HARD time getting Fred to take a bottle and go to sleep without nursing. He eventually did pass out but after screaming for a long time. *sigh* All other times of day he's fine but that time is very hard for young babies and they usually need the boob (if they're into that sort of thing:-) The good thing is that I know there's an end in sight. My older son was the same way but eventually I night-weaned and we figured out how to get him to sleep at night without nursing. We will do the same with Fred but it will take some time. Hang in there!!!
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