Here's a BBC article that is a good example of misinformation and a few lies. It appears to be typical of petroleum interests that push the worst possible ways to make biofuels then criticize these systems' imperfections.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scien...5369284.stm
It is well known that corn and cane are both impractical ways to mass produce ethanol because their standard cultivation takes massive inputs of petroleum either as energy or agrochemicals. Ethanol can be made and profits can be made but these systems are not sustainable and take large areas of food production quality land. The same can be said of using African oil palm, plus the fact that much forest land is being denuded and damaged for its cultivation.
There are thousands of other possibilities but these do not show as much promise for profits for certain interests so are little investigated. For me, little work has been done as yet on sustainable alternative fuels. The research goes into fuels that are green in name but not in practice.
May I suggest certain criteria that would make a alt fuel crop ideal:
1)The crop or its products must not need any agrochemical or energy input that cannot be supplied from the same farm where it is cultivated.
2)The crop must be suited to cultivation on marginal land or in other situations that do not tie up prime food producing land, such as marshes or semidesert.
3)The possible by-products of the crop must be fully utilizable in order to make the system have good economic feasibility.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scien...5369284.stm
It is well known that corn and cane are both impractical ways to mass produce ethanol because their standard cultivation takes massive inputs of petroleum either as energy or agrochemicals. Ethanol can be made and profits can be made but these systems are not sustainable and take large areas of food production quality land. The same can be said of using African oil palm, plus the fact that much forest land is being denuded and damaged for its cultivation.
There are thousands of other possibilities but these do not show as much promise for profits for certain interests so are little investigated. For me, little work has been done as yet on sustainable alternative fuels. The research goes into fuels that are green in name but not in practice.
May I suggest certain criteria that would make a alt fuel crop ideal:
1)The crop or its products must not need any agrochemical or energy input that cannot be supplied from the same farm where it is cultivated.
2)The crop must be suited to cultivation on marginal land or in other situations that do not tie up prime food producing land, such as marshes or semidesert.
3)The possible by-products of the crop must be fully utilizable in order to make the system have good economic feasibility.
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Re: Alt biofuels
Sat, September 23, 2006 - 7:01 AMYeah I have become very weary of information/mis-information...
I have seen enough to rarely even concern myself with the mainstream media and I too see many lies about good things in the media...
Yeah and whats the use of ethanol and a sustainable resource if they go processing it in an unsustainable way...
Though prolly the only way for ethanol to get in, in full force at the moment, is to show the petroleum industry it can still sustain it...
The Pharma industry is doing the same also... (I had an issue a while back that I had been dealing with homepathically/herbally then they give me this print out about how dangerous herbs are after I refuse thier medicines... only to come back and tell me how great and surprising the state of my health is).... and how the issue pretty much isn't there... of course while telling me but I really should consider there medicines in case it should come back or something...
I posted on another topic too... about not buying in putting these industries out of business... and that the frightening aspect would be what lengths these industries would go to save thier business... (take a look at the bush regime)
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Re: Alt biofuels
Sat, September 23, 2006 - 7:27 AMThere is an imbalance in the media which many in the media will deny. On the one hand there is a deluge of information telling us that the bio fuels being developed and the vehicles being built to use them are all good and better for the planet and us. Then there is the reality of this development which is that ethanol was started with big government subsidies to large corporations. Vehicles are being built for E85 because of government regulations which allow the largest and worst mileage vehicles to get credits for being able to use E85 again benefiting the large automakers that are behind the power curve in doing anything eco friendly. This information is available for people to find but the problem is the scale of the two messages. The advertising which comes over the MSM channels could be something like 100K to 1 million times more seconds of face time than the facts. In politics they make an equal time requirement, isn’t it time for an equal time requirement for advertising lies? For every advertising ad there needs to be equal time equal page size of facts about the claim. Maybe then some better choices will be made concerning bio fuels. -
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Re: Alt biofuels
Sat, September 23, 2006 - 8:32 AMHere here to that... Mandatory labelling of adevertisments! I love it!
Jesaka
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