i have this belief...that...stopping eating fake food (such as coke, pepsi and especially diet coke with artifical sweeteners, and in general food that comes in boxes) is a pre-requisite before you can move forward on any spiritual path...
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 5:48 PMI will never renounce my Cocoa Krispies!
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 9:30 PMIn hypnotherapy, that's what we call a "limiting belief."
If you want to believe and behave based on that belief, good on ya! But it's only a belief. Everything is energy, no? Why not just convert that energy?
Namaste!
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Fri, December 21, 2007 - 9:47 PMLow quality things are not fit to offer God (in my view). It is great to eat "unhealthy" things as long as they are made from the highest quality ingredients. When you eat shit quality foods expect to have "coco puff" quality thoughts. Nothing is "wrong" or "right" but it all has consequences.
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 8:19 AM> When you eat shit quality foods expect to have "coco puff" quality thoughts
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 8:47 AMHere's one way of looking at it:
1. I am a fragile thing with mountains of impurity on all sides, and I must thread my way through life, always searching out what I find more sacred, so I can protect and improve upon my purity until one day I arrive at perfection.
2. I am a manifestation of God, living in a theatre composed of God and moving at God's behest. Those things I happen to find sacred ARE sacred, not because some ancient tome has told me so, only because my heart was moved to make it sacred.
Such a wide variety of folks have come to self-realization as to render all approaches merely the thing we found ourselves interested in. For some, it's tantra. There's at least 100,000 others, not all of them have a cow about things such as cereal treats, or anything else that is edible.
It's quite amusing and interesting that what I say I eat could can be used as an indication of the quality of my thinking. As a matter of fact, I'm off the CKs attm. I've been going with Trader Joe's Os and Multi-Grain Cheerios for the last 3 years now, and for the last year, only two nights a week. I seriously doubt it's had any effect on the quality of my thinking plus or minus.
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 9:48 PMJust make sure that the PCP is of good quality. Bad angel dust can, despite the "all is one" theories, hamper your health and practice. -
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 11:46 PMnever a happy surprise when your meditation stash of ganja is adulterated with PCP
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 3:44 AMHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 8:37 AMFrom my limited view of tantra, based on the writings of Odier, my impression is that tantra is supposed to be free of dogma. -
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 8:47 AMThe definition "dogma" in my dictionary says: "Teaching, belief, tenet, principle, precept, maxim, article of faith, cannon; creed, credo, set of beliefs, doctrine, ideology."
If Tantra has no teachings, beliefs, principles, maxims, doctrines, or idiologies, etc., then it has nothing. That also means that anything can be called Tantra.
So eating aborted fetuses is Tantra?
No. Don't be ridiculous. That's not Tantra at all.
Ah. So you DO have some beliefs. That's your dogma.
Perhaps you have a non-dictionary definition of "dogma?"
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 3:06 PMMy dictionary (Merriam-Webster) has the same list as yours for its first definition. The second definition is as follows: a doctrine or body of doctrines formaly proclaimed by a church. I was refering more towards the second definition when I wrote my post.
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Tue, January 22, 2008 - 10:32 PM"Ah. So you DO have some beliefs. That's your dogma. "
I dont believe you =P
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 8:49 AM> tantra is supposed to be free of dogma.
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 2:14 PM
i have a body. my body is governed by a set of rules governed by nature.
fake food doesn't help my body operate properly. is that a dogma or science?
...? also i think that other guys is right...if i eat twinkies then i will have twinkie thoughts... hee heee.
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 3:47 PMIt's your dogma that's determining what's fake food. -
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 6:29 PMi bet you drink pepsi and watch tv
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 7:31 PMI bet you think you're bitchin' because you don't. -
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Sun, December 23, 2007 - 9:23 AMLOLOLOLOLL!
yeah...my mom won't let me.
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Sat, December 22, 2007 - 8:27 PMXhitia wrote: "i have a body. my body is governed by a set of rules governed by nature.
fake food doesn't help my body operate properly. is that a dogma or science?"
From a materialistic point of view it's science.
From a spiritual point of view, it's dogma.
See: Maya.
"What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?"
"No, Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to."
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Sun, December 23, 2007 - 9:22 AMthis tribe is making me feel like a crazy person. -
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Sun, December 23, 2007 - 10:36 AMI programmed a "crazy wisdom" script into the tribe. -
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Mon, December 24, 2007 - 2:54 AMfor the purpose of a given operation,
the practitioner, based upon hir or her own personal research (=experience)
chooses those habits of behavior and process
most conducive to the Willed changed
that is the goal of said operation.
+In the case of life extension, some have found that certain habits, foods, etc aide this....yet there are many exceptions to this.
+In the case of life intensification, a different set of habits,foods, etc. are likely employed.
(and, there is another set of habits, foods, etc. that i find useful to help my fragile little vehicle keep up with my demands...for example, i take lots of taurine and 5HTP every day...but that is only because i have identified two stress-points in my constitution due to my occasional life-style extremes)
+in the case of the quieting of the mind and the balancing of emotional turbulence, different cultures have come up with similar/contrasting dietary approaches...like the ayurvedic Sattvic diet, the macrobiotic diet, the essene raw diet, and the stop-fixating-on-diet diet.
What diet does Tantra require?
it depends on which Guna you are exploring the most during that phase of your Sadhana.
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Mon, December 24, 2007 - 2:55 AMsupposd to be
"his or her own persona research"
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Mon, December 24, 2007 - 8:50 AM> What diet does Tantra require?
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In my case, that would be lots of macaroni and cheese. I'm on the "don't give a fuck what I eat, as long as it tastes yummy" diet. You all can see firsthand where that has gotten me... -
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Wed, December 26, 2007 - 4:05 PMyeah jody...you are fat and spend too much time on the internet. -
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Thu, December 27, 2007 - 9:03 PM> you are fat and spend too much time on the internet.
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Maybe I am... but I'm doing it in Sayulita, Mexico, baby! AAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiibbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaa!
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Mon, December 24, 2007 - 1:16 PMfrom my understanding, the point of Ayurveda is to balance the gunas based on external influences, and what is taken into the body = food ....
Tantra on the other hand, which is derived from the same source has almost the opposite approach, less focus on ones external world...it seeks to balance the internal world, or transformation from the inside out...both may have the same effect, though one is slow and gentle on the system and the other is well, not... -
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Thu, December 27, 2007 - 5:19 PMI have this belief that anyone who uses the internet is not spritually advancing, whatsoever.
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Thu, December 27, 2007 - 5:52 PMzach...you should make this a new posting! :-D -
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Thu, December 27, 2007 - 6:14 PMyall have been putting too much datura in your chillams -
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Sat, August 9, 2008 - 7:07 PMwow it's good to be back here... i'm practically tantrically laughing my ass off :-)
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