Brain waves

topic posted Mon, July 24, 2006 - 6:03 PM by  PANZalt
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  • Re: Brain waves

    Tue, July 25, 2006 - 6:52 PM

    BETA
    1. Beta States of consciousness are sustained by an internal dialogue of verbal linguistic communication.
    2.Beta States are the waking state which we are familiar with and most accustomed to. 3.Most people never experience waking states other than Beta Condition.
    4. Beta Condition evolved as a state to help the mind interface with physical reality.
    5. The force of attention of the ego mind while in a beta state is turned outwards towards physical reality.
    6.Beta State activities include things such as physical labor and physical mundane activities.
    7.Almost all music leads to Beta Wave States. "Trance" Music actually leads to only harmonized Beta Patterns, almost all alleged "Trance" music is actually just Beta State
    re-enforcement.
    8.Beta state is the state of consciousness in which the ego mind or frontal
    coretex dominates the mind.

    Alpha
    1.Alpha States are sustained by an internal dialogue of internal imagery or symbol pictographs or hieroglyphics.
    2. Alpha states are the states some sorts of stimulus outside of ourselves does
    draw us into. For instance, hemi-sync technologies can induce a waking alpha condition.
    Alpha States are the state directly underneath Beta States, the sort of gear shifting state
    which leads off towards the direction of sleep.
    3.Most people never experience a waking alpha condition.
    4. Alpha state evolved as the state in which the mind contemplates itself. The Ego mind in an alpha condition has the rest of the mind as its environment.
    5. While in a waking alpha state, the ego minds force of attention is turned inward towards
    the alpha mind.
    6.Alpha state activities include things like visualization, lucid visualization, daydreaming,
    and symbolic contemplation, as well as potentially the use of poetry.
    7. Some music may induce a waking Alpha state. Variations may produce an alpha state
    with some Theta or Delta waves, but this is not the same thing as an Theta or Delta State.
    8. Alpha state is the state of mind where the Mammalian Brain dominates the mind.

    DELTA
    1. Delta States are sustained by an internal dialogue of internal silence.
    2. Delta states are generally a sleep or resting state of the human body.
    3. Most people never obtain a waking Delta state in their entire lives.
    4. Delta State Evolved as the resting condition of the human mind/brain organism.
    5. While in a waking Delta condition, the ego mind is turned almost off. Sensory stimulus
    is experienced but not evaluated. Verbal language is nonsensical while in a waking Delta
    condition. (Making sense of languge requires the internal dialogue to communicate between brain regions.)
    6. Delta State Activities include such things as sitting silently, slow moving meditation,
    Automatic movement, Dance, and "Flow" in sports activities.
    7. Almost all music makes staying in a waking delta condition very difficult. The exception
    to this is very slow tonal Aumming type music, the kind of which would bore a person in a
    Beta condition probably.
    8. Delta States of Consciousness are ones in which the Reptilian Mind, or Brain Stem
    Dominates the Mind.

    THETA
    1. Theta States of consciousness are sustained by an internal dialogue of musical
    thoughts operating at very fast tempos, between 12 and 16 beats per second.
    2. Theta States of consciousness are the most exotic brainwave state and are impossible
    to obtain as waking conditions unless the mind is clear of shadow issues or conflicts between the ego mind and the Mammalian Mind and Reptilian Mind.
    3. Most people never experience a waking Theta condition in their whole lives.
    4. Theta condition evolved as the bodies second waking state, in which while asleep
    the reptilain mind wakes up and repairs the body. Theta state thus represents the opportunity of the Reptilian mind to exert dynamic control and influence over all biological functions, including DREAMS. Dreams are generated while in an alpha condition but are loaded into the egoic imaginal stage while in a Theta Condition. This is sometimes called
    REM sleep or RAPID EYE MOVEMENT sleep.
    5. The force of attention while in a waking theta state is turned towards the imaginal stage
    of the ego mind.
    6. Waking theta State activities include use of psychic senses and most religious experiences.
    7.Glossolallia may operate to induce a waking Theta condition if all of the participants
    are synchronized and if the stimulus can overwhelm the conscious mind.
    8. Theta State is the state in which the Reptilian Mind and Mammalian mind work together
    to overpower and dominate the ego mind.




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      Re: Brain waves

      Tue, July 25, 2006 - 10:10 PM
      Is there any way to test our brainwaves? I would love to be able to do this. It would be interesting for me.

      I know I slip into Alpha a lot because I visualize so much. I've been doing it since I was a kid. I can actually imagine a turtle on the desk in front of me and almost see it walking around. I thought everyone could do this, and I've only realized lately that it might be an unusual trait.

      I've definitely experienced other states though. It would be nice to actually see what they corresponded to. I know how they feel and it's definitely not normal beta or alpha.


      Annette
      • Re: Brain waves

        Wed, July 26, 2006 - 10:35 AM
        Is there any way to test our brainwaves?
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        Yes, and this is a fine question.
        There are ElectroEnsephalograph machines which can be used to record brainwave activity. These used
        to be extremely expensive, but have gotten to be now in the few hundred dollar range used.
        Also, there are simple criteria by which you can judge for yourself what state you are in.
        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elec...ephalogram
        www.disability.vic.gov.au/bhcv2...logram
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        I would love to be able to do this. It would be interesting for me.
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        If you just want a one time experience, you can probably con your doctor into
        setting up a monitoring session if you complain about some real or imagined
        psychology problems. lol. If you have the money to pay for it yourself, thats easy.
        There are also self help hypnotists, most of which are charlatans, but some few of which
        are pretty good, and you may be able to just find one in the phone book
        who has the equipment and would let you use it for a nominal fee or energy exchange.
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        I know I slip into Alpha a lot because I visualize so much. I've been doing it since I was a kid. I can actually imagine a turtle on the desk in front of me and almost see it walking around. I thought everyone could do this, and I've only realized lately that it might be an unusual trait.
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        Yes, its interesting to realize wht most people are capable of versus what our potentials are.
        This was one of the most amazing parts of reading about psychology for me, is realizing all the things
        i could do which were clearly uncommon which i had assumed everybody did.
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        I've definitely experienced other states though. It would be nice to actually see what they corresponded to. I know how they feel and it's definitely not normal beta or alpha.
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        One thing to keep in mind is that each of these four main states is actually a set of spectrums of states.
        Beta condition might have alpha or delta or theta waves as the second most dominant pattern, for instance.
        In that sense, we can break things down further and think of there being 16 states;
        Beta/Beta, Beta/Alpha, Beta/Delta, Beta/Theta, Alpha/Alpha, Alpha/Beta, Alpha/Delta, Alpha/Theta,
        Delta/Delta, Delta/Beta, Delta/Alpha, Delta/Theta, Theta/Theta, Theta/Alpha, Theta/Delta, Theta/Beta.
        Plus, since any of these can be experienced while awake or asleep, that mutiplies times 2, so that gives us
        32 states. And also, these are only the major brain wave patterns, there are other more minor patterns
        such as sigma and gamma waves.

        So there are lots and lots of different states of consciousness.
        www.google.com/search
        www.bio.net/bionet/mm/ne...l/037907.html
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          Re: Brain waves

          Wed, July 26, 2006 - 11:35 AM
          story of my life.

          i fall into trance often. but was only once placed under guidance into an alpha state. did some cessation therapy a few years ago. extemeley susceptible.
          • Re: Brain waves

            Wed, July 26, 2006 - 3:13 PM
            My opinion is that modern "hypnosis" is wrong, because nobody should be screwing around in anybody elses
            head like that. I think we should all learn to access these states, but not using "hypnosis" as such. In other words i believe in "self hypnosis" but not some dude plinking with peoples heads whilst they lie on a couch.
            (tho there are rare circumstances where this might be justified, in general its better to give people access
            to their own self rather than get into somebodies head.)

            I am also very susceptible and highly suggestible, and i have to watch myself.
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              Re: Brain waves

              Wed, July 26, 2006 - 3:16 PM
              The woman who I went to see is devote (30 years) Her name was Taz. She was recommended through a friend. Three day intensive with instruction on prana breathing coincided with an hour long tape produced while in session with.

              no tinkering.
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                Re: Brain waves

                Wed, July 26, 2006 - 3:17 PM
                you're meant to do the exersises at home for a minimum of 40 days.
                • Re: Brain waves

                  Wed, July 26, 2006 - 3:18 PM
                  ou're meant to do the exersises at home for a minimum of 40 days.
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                  can you tell me about the exercises?
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                    Re: Brain waves

                    Wed, July 26, 2006 - 3:33 PM
                    well (glad you asked)

                    The first session we spent the first hour or so (3 hr sessions) talking about myself, my history, my (yes) expectations. The second half of that day she discussed my issue (condition) in great detail. Followed by a brief description of what to expect in the coming days.

                    Day two we spoke for about a half hour about my past evening and thoughts. She then asked me to sit back and relax and it was at that point she made me aware of the fact that while I would enter into the alpha state that I would be able to hear everything around me but that that was of no importance. I was also made aware that at any time I chose I could step away. No control basically. We spent the next while together in her little work space cars drivin' by n' all.

                    It was amazing. I'm the type to gaurd quite closely my sense energies. Up and down she spoke of beautiful beaches and my life. Up and down her voice went, like song.

                    Third day we spoke again about my past evening and thoughts and then she told me about the tape that she would be making - if ok with me. I was sent home with the tape and written instructions on prana breathing as well as information on my condition - the real harms of.
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                    • Re: Brain waves

                      Wed, July 26, 2006 - 4:51 PM
                      that sounds good to me. do you feel that you can tell me about the exercise you were to do for 40
                      days after?