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what do you think about the text that clement of alexandria warned people should not be in the gospel of mark...
... and going near, jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. and straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. but the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. and going out of the tomb they came into the house of the youth... in the evening the youth comes to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. and he remained with him that night, for jesus taught him the mystery of the kingdom of god.
the other bible, willis barnstone, ed.
the other gospels, ron cameron 1982
... and going near, jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. and straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. but the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. and going out of the tomb they came into the house of the youth... in the evening the youth comes to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. and he remained with him that night, for jesus taught him the mystery of the kingdom of god.
the other bible, willis barnstone, ed.
the other gospels, ron cameron 1982
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Re: the secret gospel of mark
Mon, July 6, 2009 - 4:47 PMIt reminds me that Jesus was a young, unmarried Jewish man living in a pagan empire. He was turned into the Christ, and hence into a Christian posthumously by people with their own ideas, and agendas. Any hint of homosexuality linked to Jesus would shake the foundations of Christianity as it has been constructed, and handed down to us. But if Jesus did have homosexual liasons, it must have been known within his closest circle. And apparently they accepted, and weren't offended by, such behavior. So the question is: why would later Christians suppress the sexuality of the man they believed to be God incarnate? Embarrassment? Perhaps it was like knowing one's parents have sex, but one doesn't want to picture it , so the thought is suppressed. And Jesus is thus turned into a sort of eunuch, so his followers won't dwell on his sexuality, and picture him "doing it". -
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Re: the secret gospel of mark
Mon, July 6, 2009 - 10:41 PMI dunno, though... The Gnostic gospels sure sound, in places, as though Jesus and Mary Magdalene had a *very* cozy relationship. Granted, it's been a few years, but I seem to remember writing in a journal reflecting on the Gospel of Mary Magdalene for a class that Mary sure seemed to know the mind of Jesus in a way in which one might learn it during pillow-talk...
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Re: the secret gospel of mark
Wed, July 8, 2009 - 12:24 PMThis passage is also printed in Robert Fulk's collection of translations of non-canonical Gospels. It's hard for me not to take this episode as suggesting a union of spiritual and erotic attraction, and hard to imagine that the eroticism didn't play into Clement's warning that this wasn't a canonical passage. Interestingly, it's not in a non-canonical Gospel but was interpolated into texts of the Gospel of Mark--which presumably would get Clement even twitchier. I'm pretty sure the reference to nakedness except for the linen cloth is intended to look forward to that motif, cryptic as it is, in the Marcan Gethsemane scene. A New Testament scholar friend of mine with very solid queer-theory credentials said once it was generally tbought to be an allegory for baptism. I can't help but think that's a dodge. Theodore Jennings in The Man Jesus Loved argues that the "beloved community" of the Gospel of John preserved a memory of Jesus' erotic relationship with the Beloved Disciple (and Jennings also argues that that's Lazarus); this would be a parallel tradition in the Marcan account. (What you do with the difficulty of the story in the Gospels that Lazarus was a resuscitated corpse is anybody's guess. Presumably one takes it as a trope for a less literal historical experience of resurrection.)
That all makes me sound like I'm chiefly interested in recovering some historical kernel; but in terms of midrash, I'm myself mostly interested in what WE make of the story, rather than whether it preserves some secondary trace of "historic" detail. I'm deeply drawn to the way this passage opens up an unabashed connection of flesh and spirit.
Khrysso, I'm interested in your observation about the political motivations for the suppression of Jesus's sexuality. More to say on that?
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