Who would YOU consider The Masters?

topic posted Fri, March 16, 2007 - 7:47 PM by  offlineValizan
I have been reading a lot of bellydancer biographies of late (don't ask why...) and the term "Master Teacher" gets bandied about a lot. And there seem to be certain names that come up again and again. You'd think with all the people claiming to have been in the Reda Troupe that almost every teacher in Egypt had been a member.

Who do YOU consider to be the master Egyptian teachers?
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Valizan
Toronto
  • Re: Who would YOU consider The Masters?

    Sat, March 17, 2007 - 12:49 AM
    Hmmm...that's a tough one for me since I can only tell you who are my favorite Egyptian dancers of all time. I haven't taken instruction from ALL the great teachers that may be 'out there somewhere'. I can only tell you about those I have taken classes with and of these I feel that the most "masterful" were: Raqia Hassan, Sahra Saeeda, Ibrahim Farrah [Gawd this man really inspired me!] and then there's Jillina [who I've only studied via instructional DVDs]. I also think that Keti Sharif and Dahlena are great teachers too. I'm sure that there may be quite a few instructors 'out there somewhere' who are true masters of this dance but who aren't very well known {{{come out, come out, wherever you are!}}}
  • Re: Who would YOU consider The Masters?

    Sat, March 17, 2007 - 8:56 AM
    "You'd think with all the people claiming to have been in the Reda Troupe that almost every teacher in Egypt had been a member."
    heehee

    Since you're a guy, definitely Yousry... but you gotta check out Shareen for awesome techniques. I think her movements would be really adaptable for you compared w/someone like Sahra, who is sooooo feminine. Not that Shareen isn't, but you know what I mean?
    • Re: Who would YOU consider The Masters?

      Sat, March 17, 2007 - 3:14 PM
      Master Teachers..mmm...for me are Amir Thaleb and Saida because I took classes from them (and will again when i go back to argentina)....also Yael is a master teacher for me...but when do you actually become one? because a dancer like yael, she is only 22, and she s been dancing oriental since she was 9, is she one? she is excelent...of course i mean, in my own world, out there of course we have great teachers such as Mahmoud Reda...Raqia Hassan, Fifi, Yosry Shariff, all the great divas...Mohamed El Hosseny!! and there must be so many out there who may be brilliant and we dont even know.
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    Re: Who would YOU consider The Masters?

    Sun, March 18, 2007 - 4:59 AM
    Raqia Hassan
    Aida Nour
    Mona El Said
    Dina
    Dr. Mo Geddawi
    Lubna
    Magdy El Leisy
    Farida Fahmy
    Faten Salama
    Shareen El Safy
    Sahra Saeeda
    Morocco
    Beata & Horacio Cifuentes
    Yasmina Ramzy
  • Re: Who would YOU consider The Masters?

    Mon, March 19, 2007 - 9:19 PM
    Hmmmm.....There are master dancers and master teachers. The master dancer list is VERY long. The master teacher list not so big for me. To me a master teacher has to be someone who can really convey the essence of a move (verbally or through touch). I mean someone like Lucy can dance your pants off but her teaching skills are not so refined. Also, I think master teachers have to appropriately teach to the levels in a class or workshop. They should teach combos and movements that challenge but don't put you on a strong dose of pain killers the next day. They should be able to effectively breakdown a move or combo in many ways, regardless of language barriers. They should be be accurate with their information on the art form. Here's the kicker for me: no matter how much they teach the same routine they still show the same passion for it as they day it was created. How many workshops have you attended where the instructor was so bored with their stuff? A master teacher is infectious with their passion for their art. With so many people jumping into the belly dance industry that makes it tricky. Based on classes/worshops I've attended my picks for master teachers are: Aida Nour, Hadia of Montreal, Zahra Zuhair, Nashwa in KY, Keti Sharif, Liza LaLeeza, Yoursy, Sahra Seeda, Ava Fleming, Yasmina Ramzy. I might add Fifi after taking her workshop in Dallas. As far as the Reda troupe. You might be right, Valizan. Most dancers I meet in Egypt at some point danced there or the competing troupe. It's really the only game in town unless you are lucky to make it on your own.
    Kisses, Zahrah
  • Re: Who would YOU consider The Masters?

    Fri, June 20, 2008 - 6:11 PM
    Egyptian:
    Mahmoud Reda
    Faridah Fahmy
    Raqia Hassan
    Aida Nour
    Lubna Emam
    The founder of the Kaoumayya troupe (dont know his/her name)
    Yousri Sharif
    Momo Kadous
    Fifi Abdou
    Nagwa Fouad
    Samia Gamaal
    Taheya Cariocca
    ---> Dina

    Lebanese:
    Nadia Gamal

    American Cabaret:
    Anaheed
    Judeen
    Delilah
    Alexandra King
    Jeneanie Rathor
    Suhaila Salimpour
    Who ever the instructor behind Aziza, Nadira, Magidah etc from the NW coast of the US is... I dont know her name but the dancers coming out of there have an identical technical quality/concept/movement pattern that could only be caused by 1 teacher. So, whoever you are from the NW that would be around 29-again and known for your backbends, won the bellydancer of the year competition in 1984 or 85 and you used to work as a concrete finisher - come out of the dark and let us know your name.

    American Tribal Style (ATS):
    Jamilah Salimpour
    Carolina Nericcio

    American Tribal Fusion (ATF):
    Jill Parker
    Heather Stants
    Rachel Brice

    Turkish:
    Sema Yldiz
    Nesrin Topkapi
    Asena

    Now you may ask why I list so few names....the rest are students of these dancers or have been influenced by them in one way or another....so, these are the barebones list I would consider masters.

    DaVid