One is the loniest number

topic posted Sat, June 13, 2009 - 1:51 AM by  offlinecurmudgeon
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"One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do. Two can be as bad as one, its the loneliest number since the number one ..." - Three Dog Night

Do you need to be in relationship to feel fulfilled and significant? Do you worry all the time about not being in relationship? Can you be happy as a single?
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curmudgeon
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  • Re: One is the loniest number

    Sat, June 13, 2009 - 3:04 AM
    i am happy as a single person,....until i fall in love with a man.

    then fear sets in:
    fear of loss
    fear of abandoment
    fear of being hurt

    so I change.... i give all of myself, lose my opinions..truthfully when i fall ... i am not longer myself and totally vunerable.

    Books I have been reading ...mention to avoid this by loving your self first... but i guess i never really learned how... I have been met with lots of failures...think i would learn by now.

    Amy:-)
    • Re: One is the loniest number

      Sat, June 13, 2009 - 2:18 PM
      How can I give love when I don't know what it is I'm giving?
      How can I give love when I just don't know how to give?
      How can I give love when love is something I ain't never had?

      ~Lennon
  • Re: One is the loniest number

    Sat, June 13, 2009 - 1:17 PM
    I want a significant other to morally support me because I am a single mother and an artist, and it is very hard.
    • Re: One is the loniest number

      Sat, June 13, 2009 - 1:57 PM
      ive been single for 25 years and i dont mind at all.,long ago i decided to relax and not commit.,i have girlfriends--strictly platonic sisters.,but i dont want something that doesnt feel right.,and i beleive that when im ready.,the spirit will bring me a beautifull reflection
      • Re: One is the loniest number

        Sat, June 13, 2009 - 2:41 PM
        That's fine. I am told that by my girlfriends who listen to me speak that my heart expresses its desire to find true love. Not only that, I am told to seek true love, by my clergy friends. So my desire is to silence my mouth, and observe my heart. I don't want to seek true love. I want to attract it. I am also told by clergy friends that the men I want to be with seem to want to control me, so I have to sit with that. I often hear "you messages" as opposed to "I messages" from the men I am attracted to, so I need to work on my own communication skills. That way I hope to attract a man with good communication skills, who is assertive, not aggressive. That is my belief system. What do you think?
        • Re: One is the loniest number

          Wed, June 17, 2009 - 6:53 AM
          Sounds like you've got a smart plan...

          Many men have control issues [where they want to be in control], but many men have also been controlled (still issues, eh?).

          Control issues seem to be gender neutral ;-)

          You're an artist and a mother. You'll find love by someone who respects who you are -- perhaps they'll fall in love with you through the spirit you've cast into your artwork. *that* would be a special person, who is sensitive enough to feel/see/hear that energy...
          • Re: One is the loniest number

            Wed, June 17, 2009 - 5:36 PM
            Hey Red Rob, as an artist friend told me, many people love me, its who loves me that is the concern. I am also a model, and a muse. That is not the issue. The issue is whether or not I can explore my darkness, creepiness, heaviness, goth, negativity, however a person wants to label it, and find someone who accepts that. That will be the man that will be the one for me.
            • Re: One is the loniest number

              Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:07 PM
              ah... you mean, someone who takes both the Yin AND the Yang....

              you mean... someone who accepts you AS you are, not as they'd like to make you into...

              when you find someone who can be accepting and open-minded, you'll probably find the longer-term success... because I don't think it's enough to be accepted/acknowledged/loved only for who you appear to be today, because we're an evolving work ourselves, ya? And if someone came to love your creepiness, and then you became less creepy, would you be less interesting/attractive to certain folk?

              Does that make any sense?
              • Re: One is the loniest number

                Fri, June 19, 2009 - 11:47 PM
                Red Rob, yes. Today I was told, "you know I love you, don't feel ... ". That shocked me so much that I am having to talk about it now. I mean how does that person know I know they love me? My love banks were empty, my emotional needs were unmet. So no, I don't know that. I'm not creepy, but I like things that creep other people out. That's my goth streak. :) But anyway, I'm not putting it out there that I am looking for anything! If someone accepts me and loves me today, that's all that matters. I try to live one day at a time.
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    Re: One is the loniest number

    Sat, June 13, 2009 - 2:23 PM
    I was on my own a very long time before I ever became involved, married. Now that the marriage has ended, I have decided to reacquaint myself with me. I'm learning to accept me (all facets) and learn from mistakes I've made. Yes I've made my share of mistakes and don't want to make them again. So before I become involved again, I want to be sure I know and love me well enough to be what he may need but also to be strong/brave enough to require what I need.
    • Re: One is the loniest number

      Sat, June 13, 2009 - 2:42 PM
      I agree with you Lone... I am really reflecting on the words the men say whom I am attracted to, and they don't sound good to me when I am alone. They sound blaming, aggressive...
  • Re: One is the loniest number

    Sat, June 13, 2009 - 2:42 PM
    I don't need a relationship; I want one. When I'm out of one, the thing I miss the most is the human touch.
    • Re: One is the loniest number

      Sat, June 13, 2009 - 2:46 PM
      aye.,i second the motion badass.,for a badass-your allright.,and lonelass.,your on the path of freedom.,its a good red road-
      • Re: One is the loniest number

        Sat, June 13, 2009 - 4:26 PM
        I needed my wife as none other when we met & significantly I realized this sets me up for what the entirety of life will reach for going forward. Loneliness is really upsetting if it is clear to you life has meaning yet you can't quite write yourself in the book of dreams...life et al. Lost in process gave colorful ideals for me, yet I had seen the ease with which the other was resolved in contentment because they'd been understood. And I wanted that--as now I do. Life is a long distance run as if the river of life with which I live in proximity yields the slow fidelity and thus its irony that catching up--as I am inevitably socially--is a solitarian achievement. Thus, I haven't lost by secreted identity in the hrs of meditations when solitude had me kill ego at all costs even thru inertia which I could measure only simply.
        • Re: One is the loniest number

          Sat, June 13, 2009 - 4:47 PM
          I am never lonely because I have an inner strength and self worth. I have an enormous range of interests that keep me from being bored. I love people and I know that I would thrive if I found the right person, but I am in no hurry. The right person and I will meet, or we shall not. Either way is fine. But I do believe that a person is most complete and perhaps most happy, when they become one with their other half.

          My life of romances culminated in a marriage, relationship that lasted for five years and the woman I was with was wonderful in many ways, but I did not feel that she knew me for who I am because she was so preoccupied with her own dramas. . .apart from that, we had fun and fit together in many ways. But I did learn a lot about what I need, and a relationship which might look good on paper and be fun at times, is not enough. I need someone who can and wants to look deep into my soul and whose journey and my journey blend together.
          • Re: One is the loniest number

            Sat, June 13, 2009 - 5:45 PM
            Amen.,we think alike.,now im not so alone--
            • Re: One is the loniest number

              Sat, June 13, 2009 - 7:01 PM
              i have 6 guitars and three dogs.,gardens and a river runs by my back door.,all angels can apply at lonely hearts club tribe~~Smile- ~(,o+))~~~
              • Re: One is the loniest number

                Sat, June 13, 2009 - 7:30 PM
                I've been alone for quite sometime and am happier this way. I've not had many intimate loving relationships so my past doesn't exactly encourage opening up to someone new very readily or cultivate trust. I'm also strong in myself, and am well acquainted with who I am. Having this can make a man less aggressive simply because one's outlook on life demands it. The plumbing problems I experienced a few nights ago had men not running to my door to fix the problem, but instructing me how to do it myself. I agree with BadAss... the human touch is a missing link that is vital for everyone, and I do miss that now and again.
              • Re: One is the loniest number

                Mon, June 15, 2009 - 10:18 PM
                That river that runs near the back door is shi (bad chi -energy).

                You may want to look for "a remedy" as this may be effecting relationships in your life- serious!
  • Re: One is the loniest number

    Sat, June 13, 2009 - 11:43 PM
    I think I'd be happy as a single person. I haven't been single that much in my life. So the times that I have I have really enjoyed. I think I would like it long term, too.
    • Re: One is the loniest number

      Sun, June 14, 2009 - 7:39 AM
      thats priceless.,are you in a relationship now.,.,?we all have one thing in common.,thats the little bird on our shoulders that tells you--thats right,thats certainly correct.,hmmn,mayby not and you get the drift.,but i would not seek single status because it sounds OK.,.,its much harder than it sounds.,we old timers at this have had a lot of time to come to grips with ourselves and look back-ponder the mistakes and regrets-oh so many--and to let it rest.,its a hard journey and i dont really recomend it to anyone unless they dont mind being a saint-the celabit thing.,and the stigma--its single-probably something wrong there.,.,its a journey of discovery--if you really want to find yourelf.,.,you must do this alone.,but like i said.,its harder than it looks.,we make it sound easy.,but its a day to day thing.,we all know that could change tomorow.,.,take nothing for granted.,even my words.,grain of salt.,be your own boss.,PeacealonG
  • Re: One is the loniest number

    Sun, June 14, 2009 - 8:42 AM
    I like relationships...but I also like being single. I have the best times when single. Actually often have a better time single then involved...there is only one man I can say where being involved was just like being single since he was not pushing his agenda.
    • Re: One is the loniest number

      Sun, June 14, 2009 - 9:04 AM
      thats a great relationship i would think.,blending agendas.,not one over the other.,to be desired .,personally--and i play a gibson SG guitar--my favorite amongst my axes.,give me some metal to chew on.,my heroes are stevey ray vaughn and jimi hendrix.,uh-oh i let the cat out of the bag .,and hes after my birds.,back in the bag----
  • Re: One is the loniest number

    Sun, June 14, 2009 - 9:55 AM
    I haven't single in twwenty year, but I do remember the turmiol that i put mysevles through. However once I excepted that i was the only one that could make my happy, she arrived, and that was that and a little more of that.
    • Re: One is the loniest number

      Sun, June 14, 2009 - 10:02 AM
      you found your harmony and then you sang duo--sweet-extra sweet
      • Re: One is the loniest number

        Sun, June 14, 2009 - 2:39 PM
        Been living single for 9 years, divorced for the last five but still visited and best friends with my ex (she's flying up next month to visit). Living alone, especially out here in the rural mountains-the sticks most definitely- has been both very good for me and also very lonely at times. If we are surrounded with others, living in cities etc, you aren't alone, not really, but we have a herding instinct and tend to collect in groups as a species .

        But when you don't see another human face unless you go to town or visit neighbors like I do you realize just what lonely is really like. I can stay here on the property, go hike the ridegline behind me, and not see or talk to another person for days/weeks at a time if I choose to. I can see dust clouds from cars going by on the dirt road occasionally, or hear the laughter and screams of the little kids that live across it when they are out playing, but I literally don't see or talk to another unless I make the effort (or somebody else does and comes by or calls).

        It's pretty strange at times to live this way. Both good and bad but I do wish I had another/others to share living in this place with.
        • Re: One is the loniest number

          Mon, June 15, 2009 - 11:02 PM
          ... seal ... I'm not sure about that ... one always wonders about income, and, isolation is not good... be careful.
          • Re: One is the loniest number

            Tue, June 16, 2009 - 10:15 PM
            I have been single for enite my life. Right now, I am a casual relationship that will never turn serious right now but it meet my needs for the immediate .

            A person can be single for an indefinite period of timei if the person has strong community and keeps busy. Since I am in recovery, my schedule of going to 12-step meetings already consumes three to four days a week and I talk to my sponsor almost every day. In addition, I am also a burner and go to several local events each months So I do not feel real lonely right now
  • Re: One is the loniest number... or two

    Wed, June 17, 2009 - 6:58 AM
    Two can be lonelier than one, when the two are on different paths... the togetherness only accentuates the sentiment.

    I'm not sayin' that's my personal situation right now... I'm just sayin'...
    • Re: One is the loniest number... or two

      Wed, June 17, 2009 - 5:38 PM
      Red Rob, you look pretty happy to me. Is that a fake smile, or a real smile?
      • Re: One is the loniest number... or two

        Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:12 PM
        I took that pic. on my camera phone the winter before this past one (Feb. 2008)... it was the first time I went skiing with my then-5YO daughter, and indeed it was a very happy time... I love spending time with her, especially when I truely allow myself to be with her in totality (sans distractions by the rest of life).

        Even when I've had long periods of my life filled with loneliness, I find happiness within, and around me. (some might think I'm a bit crazy, if they saw me spontaneously burst into laughter at some tiny little thing I cracked myself up over!)
        • Re: One is the loniest number... or two

          Sat, June 20, 2009 - 12:10 AM
          Red Rob, for me, I have denied my loneliness since becoming a single parent. Today a friend pointed it out to me, and I was able to admit it, and he loved me for it. It really hurts being a single mother. Its just me and my daughter, that's it. No one else. I don't like talking about it.
          • Re: One is the loniest number... or two

            Sat, June 20, 2009 - 9:10 PM
            Since you "don't like talking about it" I suppose I shouldn't ask any questions... but you *did* bring it up ;-)

            I can't help but wonder why it would "hurt" to be a mother, single or otherwise. Your daughter needs nothing but your love. And if you can give her that, it will come back to you tenfold one day, one way or another. Or is it that you wish there were someone else by your side to share your joys of motherhood? Have you considered other single-parent's groups?

            I won't expect an answer since you said you don't want to talk about it.. I was just venting my own curiosities here...

            Be well...
            :-) Rob
  • Re: One is the loniest number

    Sun, June 21, 2009 - 9:05 AM
    Goodness I am hardly ever single...and to be honest when I am single I am delighted...balanced and at the most peace.

    I tend to atttract people a lot when I am having the most fun being single. arrrrrgh

    I'm the type of person who loves to take myself out for dates....yes I do. I go to the movies alone. Nice places for dinner...travel to many countries alone...what I like is being able to do exactly as I like without compromising anything.

    Frankly I am getting tired of being agreeable and compromising for any relationship...

    I will admit I enjoy relationships and do have fun with them....but I am fine being single

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