Idaho opts out of Real ID!

topic posted Thu, March 8, 2007 - 11:40 PM by  offlineDeborah
woo hoo! Great news!!

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Subject: Real ID rebellion accelerates; scorecard rates regs
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:14:46 -0500
From: Stanley, Jay
To: Declan McCullagh

Hi Declan,

Wanted to let you know that a couple of things are happening with Real ID. First, Idaho became the second state to opt out today. As you know Maine opted out in January; there are also a lot of states that have passed anti-Real ID bills through one chamber, or through committee.

This matters because the whole point of Real ID is to have a uniform national identity document, and as the states start rejecting it, the whole concept collapses.

Also we issued a Real ID "Scorecard" this morning summarizing our analysis of the new regulations Homeland Security put out last week. We listed every issue with Real ID that has been pointed out and systematically looked at how many of those issues have been addressed by the new regs. The answer: 9%.

When the regs were released, DHS made a lot of fuss over the extension they promised to give the states to comply. But clearly that isn't slowing down the rebellion in the states.

We have a map showing the status of legislation across the nation, and the Real ID Scorecard, online at www.realnightmare.org

- Jay


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Jay Stanley
Public Education Director, Technology and Liberty Project
ACLU

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Deborah
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  • Yay us!

    Fri, March 9, 2007 - 10:11 AM
    This is great. Go Maine! Go Idaho!!!!!

    While it's still early days (as Deborah says, let's not count any chickens before they come home to roost), I think we've not only got a good shot at stopping Real ID dead in its tracks, there's a chance to turn it into a rout -- where we win *so* big, have so much fun doing it, and build so many connections in the process) that we build a huge amount of momentum that can then apply to other cuases as well ...

    We shall see. But one's thing for sure: we can win this one.

    jon
    • Re: Yay us!

      Fri, March 9, 2007 - 3:21 PM
      Very encouraging.

      We need to do all our work on our Plan A project (stopping REAL ID) while being cognizant of our Plan B project.

      Plan B would be that if REAL ID is instituted we must refuse to participate in that system.

      Any recognize this scenario from childhood church teachings?

      What an interesting time to be alive.

      LOVE TO ALL
      dave
      • Re: Yay us!

        Fri, March 9, 2007 - 4:04 PM
        >Plan B would be that if REAL ID is instituted we must refuse to participate in that system.

        Yep, and Plan B will be tough. You can opt out, but you'll end up getting a driver's license that says "not valid for official identification purposes", or words to that effect. It will also likely be a different color. As soon as you pull out your "invalid" driver's license, people around you will know immediately that you're different in some way, and you'll probably be treated differently as well.

        If you have a passport you will still be able to get onto a plane and/or go into federal buildings, but in this scenario, it would seem like you shouldn't use those documents unless you absolutely must, otherwise refusal to participate will likely be meaningless.

        It's definitely something to think about...... All good reasons to succeed at Plan A! :)
        • Re: Yay us!

          Fri, March 9, 2007 - 4:26 PM
          > As soon as you pull out your "invalid" driver's license, people around you will know immediately that you're different in some way, and you'll probably be treated differently as well. <

          This reminds me of how a fried of mind who didn't register for Selective Service when he was younger; he wasn't be allowed to register after the age of 26 so he is marked for life with the federal government so he can't do things like get a student loan for graduate school.

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