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Obama has been against REAL ID in the past, and she's been against it as well. We'll see what happens next.
I expect REAL ID to heat up as an issue around January.
Nominee Would Lead ID Program She Opposed
www.nytimes.com/2008/12/02...icense.html
By MATTHEW L. WALD
December 2, 2008
WASHINGTON - As governor of Arizona, Janet Napolitano, President-elect
Barack Obama's choice for homeland security secretary, pledged that her
state would not cooperate with a major domestic security initiative, the
Real ID drivers' license program.
The program, which she would direct if confirmed as secretary, imposes
stringent requirements on states for confirming the identity and legal
residency of people who want drivers' licenses. Ms. Napolitano said the law
would impose huge costs on the states without reimbursement from Washington.
In June, she signed into law a bill that forbids Arizona from cooperating
with the federal requirements. The state law had no immediate effect,
because Arizona already had a federal waiver allowing it to delay enactment
until 2009.
Last year, as the chairwoman of the National Governors Association, Ms.
Napolitano testified before a Senate committee that the program would cost
the states $11 billion. Since then, Congress has appropriated $100 million
to meet some of the costs.
Real ID follows the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission; it was passed
without hearings or debate, attached to a mostly unrelated bill.
Janice L. Kephart, a staff member for the 9/11 Commission, said, "I'm hoping
she will see this program from the federal government side and see it with
new eyes."
A stronger national driver's license system would help the states improve
highway safety by assuring that drivers do not obtain more than one license,
Ms. Kephart said, and it could cut Medicare and Medicaid fraud.
Hani Hanjour, the hijacker flew the plane that crashed into the Pentagon on
Sept. 11, 2001, had an Arizona license, she said.
The federal government has said that people carrying drivers' licenses that
do not comply with its requirements will not be allowed into federal
buildings and will have difficulty boarding planes. The American Civil
Liberties Union and some state legislators say that the program amounts to a
national identification card, with civil liberties and privacy implications.
Ms. Napolitano, however, has mostly focused on the cost. Mr. Obama, as a
candidate, did the same.
The rules issued by the Bush administration require each state to verify the
authenticity of an applicant's documents and keep copies, along with digital
photos, so the information can be shared with other states. The department
issued the regulations so late that nearly all the deadlines fall after Mr.
Bush leaves office.
Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company
I expect REAL ID to heat up as an issue around January.
Nominee Would Lead ID Program She Opposed
www.nytimes.com/2008/12/02...icense.html
By MATTHEW L. WALD
December 2, 2008
WASHINGTON - As governor of Arizona, Janet Napolitano, President-elect
Barack Obama's choice for homeland security secretary, pledged that her
state would not cooperate with a major domestic security initiative, the
Real ID drivers' license program.
The program, which she would direct if confirmed as secretary, imposes
stringent requirements on states for confirming the identity and legal
residency of people who want drivers' licenses. Ms. Napolitano said the law
would impose huge costs on the states without reimbursement from Washington.
In June, she signed into law a bill that forbids Arizona from cooperating
with the federal requirements. The state law had no immediate effect,
because Arizona already had a federal waiver allowing it to delay enactment
until 2009.
Last year, as the chairwoman of the National Governors Association, Ms.
Napolitano testified before a Senate committee that the program would cost
the states $11 billion. Since then, Congress has appropriated $100 million
to meet some of the costs.
Real ID follows the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission; it was passed
without hearings or debate, attached to a mostly unrelated bill.
Janice L. Kephart, a staff member for the 9/11 Commission, said, "I'm hoping
she will see this program from the federal government side and see it with
new eyes."
A stronger national driver's license system would help the states improve
highway safety by assuring that drivers do not obtain more than one license,
Ms. Kephart said, and it could cut Medicare and Medicaid fraud.
Hani Hanjour, the hijacker flew the plane that crashed into the Pentagon on
Sept. 11, 2001, had an Arizona license, she said.
The federal government has said that people carrying drivers' licenses that
do not comply with its requirements will not be allowed into federal
buildings and will have difficulty boarding planes. The American Civil
Liberties Union and some state legislators say that the program amounts to a
national identification card, with civil liberties and privacy implications.
Ms. Napolitano, however, has mostly focused on the cost. Mr. Obama, as a
candidate, did the same.
The rules issued by the Bush administration require each state to verify the
authenticity of an applicant's documents and keep copies, along with digital
photos, so the information can be shared with other states. The department
issued the regulations so late that nearly all the deadlines fall after Mr.
Bush leaves office.
Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company
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Re: Janet Napolitano and REAL ID
Wed, December 10, 2008 - 11:09 AMI hope she socks Real ID in the teeth once and for all... -
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Re: Janet Napolitano and REAL ID
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 10:00 PMShe will also be overseeing The Fence, which she also has opposed in the past. This should be interesting... -
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Re: Janet Napolitano and REAL ID
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 2:35 PM>This should be interesting
Yeah... it's not going to be a slam dunk... Real ID is so expensive though, and the states have less money now than they did when this thing was passed. Honestly, I think most people would like to just see it go quietly away.
We'll see.
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Re: Janet Napolitano and REAL ID
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 11:35 PMThanks for the information. I appreciate people keeping up on this remote topic. I don't know any other way to find out.
It seems that Obama is against it. I'll check back in Jan. The Senators and Governor of Montana have fought hard against REAL ID. It is very costly. I do not see how they could afford to impliment the REAL ID with the economy only starting to crash, and the concept of impoimenting it globally seems impossible. I cannot imagine everyone in the world being marked.
There may be a huge population reduction in the future. They may try it then (?). Seems like a non-issue for a while. -
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Re: Janet Napolitano and REAL ID
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 12:57 PMDunno if we are out of the woods yet on this one. Here is the latest from USA Today.
www.usatoday.com/tech/news...hgov_N.htm
"Gov. Janet Napolitano — President-elect Barack Obama's pick to run the Homeland Security Department — has strongly advocated using advanced security technology as a law enforcement tool, drawing praise from police and raising concern among civil liberties groups that warn about privacy invasion.
As Arizona's Democratic governor since 2003, Napolitano has:
• Pushed state police to use cameras that scan license plates of moving cars to find vehicles that are stolen or linked to a criminal suspect.
• Promoted "face-identification" technology that could help surveillance cameras find wanted people by comparing someone's face with a photo database of suspects.
• Signed a 2007 bill making Arizona one of 12 states that collect and store DNA samples of people accused but not convicted of certain crimes, including murder, burglary, sexual assault and prostitution.
• Proposed an optional state ID for legal citizens only that features a radio-frequency chip to allow authorities to read the card. State lawmakers blocked the effort this year."
If she just supports doing some sort of Real ID type program under a different name, I don't think that helps much...
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Re: Janet Napolitano and REAL ID
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 6:57 PM>Proposed an optional state ID for legal citizens only that features a radio-frequency chip to allow authorities to read the card. State lawmakers blocked the effort this year."
This is a separate deal -- this is part of the 'western hemisphere travel initiative' (WHITI). travel.state.gov/travel/cb..._2223.html
DHS has not recommended using RFID tags in Real ID driver's licenses. The standard they endorsed is a 2D bar code. WHITI, on the other hand, has an RFID tag standard. The reason for this is because border agents want you to be able to go through checkpoints quickly - this means having a card that can be read at a distance. RFIDs allow that. Of course, this is why they're so insecure. -
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Re: Janet Napolitano and REAL ID
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 1:52 PMDid I just read that the farmers defeated NAIS which was the animal prototype for chipping humans? -
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Re: Janet Napolitano and REAL ID
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 2:06 PMNot sure...
I know there are a couple of law suits in progress, but I don't know the status.
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Re: Janet Napolitano and REAL ID
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 2:06 PMI haven't followed this as closely as I should, but I know that some farmers didn't like it.
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