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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hi guys and girls, 
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&lt;br/&gt;Just finished my third website dedicated tro energy efficiency. 
&lt;br/&gt;Take a look and try and make a difference. 
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&lt;br/&gt;www.energyefficiencysavings.com &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>looking for an alternative to being an air conditioning man, a sustainable renewable job using the knowledge</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;i am hoping to find a new line of work for my partner, something renewable, something sustainable that he can use his expertise from the air condition field and apply it to helping our world be responsible, instead of just helping us to stay cool...  any ideas???  thanks&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Is it better to keep the 2000 Ford f-150 or get a new Honda fit.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>40 vacancies in the Renewable/Environmental posted in the last 6 days.</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;40 vacancies in the Renewable/Environmental Sectors posted in the last 6 days. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Also a new section has been added for environmental vacancies. 
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&lt;br/&gt;for free sign-up follow the link below 
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&lt;br/&gt;www.worldofrenewables.com/register.php
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&lt;br/&gt;Also added a new section to my website focusing on environmental information and news. 
&lt;br/&gt;link: www.worldofrenewables.com/envir...x.html
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&lt;br/&gt;Regards 
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&lt;br/&gt;Grant Rowe 
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:08:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Folks, I myself am the proud author of this one. Infinite Energy's web site is at http://www.infinite-energy.com/ A PDF version is attached. 
&lt;br/&gt;EXTRA-DIMENSIONAL POWER?
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&lt;br/&gt;GRAHAM TOQUER 
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&lt;br/&gt;ISSUE 75, 2007 • I n f i n i t e E n e r g y
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&lt;br/&gt; In 1997, I published an article in this magazine entitled "Neutrino Power." I had some ideas about where the energy of "cold fusion" was really coming from, based on the current theories of physics of the time. Since then the physicists have rethought their theories, which has caused me to rethink mine. But I believe that my basic premise is still valid, and perhaps looks better than ever. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Exactly what Fleischmann and Pons really discovered has been a matter of debate from the onset. Lack of radioactivity and fusion products seems to indicate that it is not the kind of fusion that goes on inside the sun. One theory was that compressing the electron orbit of a hydrogen atom forced that electron down into a lower electron shell, releasing a photon in the process. Chemists liked the theory, but physicists hated it and still do. Nonetheless, the "hydrino" theory has not gone away. At one time BlackLight Power claimed that they would soon market a heat source for buildings based on this theory. I’m still waiting to hear more about that. Anyway, the concept got me thinking. If the hydrino theory was wrong, and it wasn’t nuclear fusion, what was happening inside those bars of palladium? 
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&lt;br/&gt;Imagine a sackful of marbles dumped into a tray—a twodimensional surface. Given room, they will settle down into one single layer of marbles, all having the same coordinate in the up/down dimension. But if you rattle the tray around to slam them together, some of them will momentarily pop up on top of the rest, moving laterally into an alternate dimension. I think that’s what the electrons in the hydrogen atoms in cold fusion experiments are doing. 
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&lt;br/&gt;From the 1997 article: 
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&lt;br/&gt;. . .One actively pursued theory has it that hydrogen passing through the palladium gets so crowded that its electron shell collapses to a previously unsuspected lower level and yields photons. A lot of chemists like the idea, but physicists do not. Perhaps my theory will be more to their liking: I believe that the electron shell is being squeezed into a higher dimension. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Some of the latest theories about the evolution of the universe call for eleven to sixteen dimensions at the time of the big bang. The three spatial dimensions— plus one of time—that we now use are all that remains of a greater universe. At one time, all the dimensions were open, and all the atomic forces were unified. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Then, as the universe cooled, the four lower dimensions drew apart from the rest. The remaining spatial dimensions collapsed to infinitesimal size shortly after the Big Bang. Particles that once existed in stable form, such as the muon and tauon, were no longer able to exist because the energy level of the universe was too low. Now they exist only as infinitesimally short-lived virtual particles, and brief tracks in cloud chambers. 
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&lt;br/&gt;It is my belief that the neutrino did not descend fully into three dimensional space/time with the other remaining particles. The neutrino is so small— perhaps dimension-less—that it can fit in the tiny amount of remaining space in a higher dimension. That would explain why it is so hard to detect, and almost impossible to stop. But there are incredible numbers of them, with energy. If only they could be accessed. 
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&lt;br/&gt;All particles behave both as particles and waves. In photons, this split personality is so profound that two separate experiments can prove that photons are particles and waves, respectively, without disproving one another. Next to photons, electrons are the next most wave-like of the particles. Their "orbit" around a nucleus is a fixed multiple of their "matter wave" length. The wave length of photons they can emit is also a function of this orbit. (Hence the "hydrogen emission" wave length, 21 centimeters. . .) 
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&lt;br/&gt;So when a hydrogen atom gets so compressed that its sole electron can not orbit its nucleus in a precise multiple of its wave length, something has to give. I believe that the electron slides some portion of its matter wave length into [a higher dimension]. 
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&lt;br/&gt;And, I theorized, they interacted with neutrinos, obtaining energy. I assumed neutrinos because the theories of the day called for extra dimensions of minuscule size. Neutrinos were thought to be dimension-less, so they were the only particles likely to fit, and it would explain why they were so hard to detect and stop. Also, my theory seemed to explain the "solar neutrino problem"—the fact that the sun apparently does not emit enough electron neutrinos. I believed that "toquered" hydrogen atoms with compressed electron shells in the sun’s outer core strained them out. Other theories have since explained the solar neutrino problem by other means, much to my dismay. 
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&lt;br/&gt;I named this phenomenon the "Toquer effect." I decided to cede it to the public domain. Since then, physicists trying to explain the formation and behavior of the universe have evolved "M-Theory," championed by Stephen Hawking and Lisa Randall among others. M-theory calls for a large extra dimension to explain why gravity behaves in the way that it does. There may even be another entire universe at the other end of the "M" dimension. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Hawking and Randall do not seem to feel that the "M" dimension contains matter or energy. They do believe, however, that our universe loses gravity waves into the M-dimension, and possibly "toquered" electrons are interacting with them. It’s even possible that they are indeed catching neutrinos. However, even if the M-dimension was originally devoid of matter and energy, I believe that this may no longer be true, due to the Toquer effect. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Every star has a core where fusion reactions are taking place, surrounded by a shell of mostly hydrogen and helium which is hot and highly compressed—toquered. I believe that those hydrogen electrons are popping in and out of the "M" dimension, and while they are there they can emit photons on the 21 centimeter wavelength, the hydrogen emission frequency. They can also catch them from M-space again, so that the temperature of M-space is in a state of equilibrium. When the universe was young, M-space was filling up with energy, draining it from all the stars in the universe until it reached that equilibrium. And then. . . 
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&lt;br/&gt;From the 1997 article 
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&lt;br/&gt;The temperature of [M-space] should be the average temperature of the inner hydrogen shells of the stars, between the hottest point at which hydrogen can exist as atoms rather than plasma, and the outermost point at which the Toquer effect can take place. Hotter stars should lose energy into M-Space. Cooler stars should gain energy from it. If we draw it down, every star in the universe should replace it. The energy can not be exhausted as long as the stars shine. . . .
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&lt;br/&gt;If [M-space] was originally cold and empty, stars would have lost a lot of energy into it at first. They would have burned their fuel a lot faster to maintain equilibrium, and aged faster. Then, when the temperature of [M-Space] reached the average stellar core temperature, the loss would have stopped. Stars that were running a little cooler than average could gain energy. Stars that ran hot could lose it, creating a leveling effect. (This energy drain may account for much of the lost mass of the Universe.) 
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&lt;br/&gt;Quite possibly, this moment of equilibrium was reached very abruptly through the universe. . .If so, suddenly every star in the cosmos was over-fueled for its spectral class. How much so is a function of the rate at which a star can gain energy from or lose energy to [M-SPace.] 
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&lt;br/&gt;The wildest possibility is that many of the stars in the universe exploded, popping off like firecrackers in an incredibly short period of time by cosmic standards. The blasts would have resembled supernovas, although the processes are different. And that would have created the heavy elements that compose this planet we inhabit, as supernovas would have done. However, they would have done so much earlier in the life of the universe, before great numbers of supernovas would have evolved. 
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&lt;br/&gt;For the rest, normal stars would have expanded into giants, and dwarfs flared up into viable stars. It could have been the most abrupt cosmic event since the big bang. It might have wiped out every sapient race in the universe, if there were any in a mostlyhydrogen cosmos. It may have vaporized the gas giant planets of the era, which is why we are now seeing mostly nebular material surrounding other stars. It may even have left microwave echoes as the Big Bang is thought to have done. 
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&lt;br/&gt;I might also mention a curious thing about the planet Jupiter: It emits more thermal energy into space than it receives from the sun. My theories might explain that. 
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&lt;br/&gt;So, how to prove or disprove this theory? I would start by checking cold fusion experiments for EMF emissions on the 21 centimeter wavelength. These may not be so obvious, since the classic Fleischmann and Pons experiment was immersed in water. The hydrogen in the water would have soaked up any such emissions. The same is true of the acetone in the "sonofusion" experiments. But if any such EMF turns up, that raises possibilities. 
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&lt;br/&gt;From the 1997 article: 
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&lt;br/&gt;At the laboratory of Michael C.H. McKubre, SRI International, a sealed cell exploded and killed a worker. I look upon [this] phenomena as [a] feedback situation. . .With time, statistical chance may create a situation where enough hydrogen atoms are Toquering hydrogen emission quanta in unison to generate an EMF signal, which causes more atoms to resonate in harmony, and increase the signal strength. . .In the case of the explosion, I suspect that the working element managed to generate a weak 21 centimeter signal, which reflected off of some nearby metal surface, and re-excited the working element, causing the emission of another, stronger wave. This would have resulted in very rapid positive feedback until the working element vaporized and blew up. 
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&lt;br/&gt;. . .The idea is to make all the electrons deliver their photons in unison, so that we get radio frequency energy instead of mere heat. . .Perhaps the working element can be stimulated with a radio wave or an oscillating magnetic field on the appropriate frequency [to create a resonance]. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The great thing about getting energy as EMF rather than heat is that a simple antenna grid will turn it directly into electricity. That will have a lot more commercial appeal that something that only produces low levels of thermal energy. The sooner we can start producing some alternative to fossil fuels, the better. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Recent wisdom has it that global warming is happening faster than we thought, and consequences may be worse than we thought. Now they’re talking about an ice-free Arctic Ocean before the end of the century. There appear to be huge deposits of methane trapped in ice crystals in the ocean floor and the tundra. It’s a far more effective greenhouse gas than CO2, and it’s waiting to be thawed. Much more of this, and we’ll have people scuba-diving in the New York subway system. 
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&lt;br/&gt;And if that isn’t enough, there is talk that global warming could change the balance between oxygen-breathing bacteria and sulfur-eating bacteria in the oceans and get them spewing out sulphur dioxide. This may have contributed to several of this planet’s great extinctions. Let’s hope we can get away from our coal-and-oil addiction before we drive ourselves into extinction.
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&lt;br/&gt;As before, I hereby cede my theories to the public domain.
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&lt;br/&gt;Related NewsRenewable Energy projects to get Munich Re cover in India
&lt;br/&gt;Renewable energy can save East Asia two trillion US dollars in fuel costs
&lt;br/&gt;Sunny Days Alternative Energy Summit examines renewable energy
&lt;br/&gt;On the road
&lt;br/&gt;Kenworth Clean Power Technology Tour To Visit Capitol Hill 
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&lt;br/&gt;GRAHAM TOQUER 
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:30:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Story i got today-u guys may find interesting</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Combining solar thermal power plants with energy storage systems can keep the lights on long after the sun has set.
&lt;br/&gt;Big Solar - those massive megawatt power plants to be built in California's Mojave Desert - has been seen at best as an add-on to the power grid. Solar, the conventional wisdom goes, might provide "peaking power" when demand spikes during the day but can never replace the so-called baseload power supplied round-the-clock by coal or natural-gas fired power plants. But in a paper presented recently at the International Solar Energy Society conference in Beijing, scientist David Mills argued that huge solar farms can replace carbon-spewing power plants and produce electricity at competitive prices for the entire nation. 
&lt;br/&gt;How? By combining solar thermal power plants with energy storage systems to keep the lights on long after the sun has set, according to Mills, chairman and chief scientific officer of Silicon Valley solar company Ausra. Solar thermal plants like the ones being developed by Ausra use rows of mirrors to focus the sun's rays on tubes of liquid - water in Ausra's case - to create steam that drives an electricity-generating turbine. The solar farms would store energy in tanks of liquid that would release the heat for nighttime operation or when clouds pass over. Mills and co-author Robert Morgan calculated that a 92-mile by 92-mile solar farm in the desert southwest could power the entire country. Analyzing electricity demand data from California and Texas, they figured that solar power plants with 16 hours of energy storage capacity could supply 92 percent of those states' power at about 8 cents a kilowatt hour - roughly the current cost of fossil fuel-generated electricity. Mills and Morgan believe the same would hold true on a national scale. "Zero emissions technology is required to replace most of current generation by mid-century to meet stringent climate goals," they wrote. "What is now required as a climate safety, economic, and security imperative is a rethink of the function and form of electricity grid networks, and the inclusion of high capacity factor solar electricity technology in the design of continental electricity systems."
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&lt;br/&gt;That would mean replacing the current AC grid with a DC grid to get solar electricity from sunny states to the rest of the country with minimal transmission losses - an undertaking on the scale and cost of the construction of the interstate highway system in the 1950s. And of course the fossil fuel industry isn't about to march quietly off to the coal-bin of history. But Mills's "thought experiment" is less a blueprint for a solar nation than an opening shot in a campaign to shift the power paradigm away from the constraints imposed by coal and nuclear technologies. "Baseload is what those older technologies provided, not what we need," Mills told Green Wombat recently. "We need something that follows the natural load." 
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&lt;br/&gt;In other words, the grid is currently constructed to accommodate capital-intensive fossil fuel plants that need to run 24/7 to be most efficient and economical. The natural load, on the other hand, is the demand for electricity created by people's and the economy's daily rhythm. That demand naturally peaks when people are up and about and falls at night when they're asleep. Renewable energy sources, Mills argues, more closely mirror human behavior. Solar electricity production soars when demand does during the day. At night, stored solar energy and other renewable sources like wind, which tends to blow strongest in the evening, can more closely match lower demand as people and machines wind down. 
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&lt;br/&gt;For its part, Ausra is developing solar storage technology that will be commercially available in about 18 months, according to Mills. The company is expected to file a development application for a 175-megawatt solar power plant next week, a spokesperson for the California Energy Commission told Green Wombat. Ausra has been negotiating with PG&amp;amp;E (PCG) and other utilities. (Along with PG&amp;amp;E, California's two other big utilities, Southern California Edison (EIX) and San Diego Gas &amp;amp; Electric (SRE) so far have signed deals to buy nearly 3 gigawatts of solar power.)&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;A series of questions to launch  "renewable future"
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&lt;br/&gt;fossil carbon - not renewable - - - given our current lifestyles, how many pounds a year are we responsible for releasing into the atmosphere?
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&lt;br/&gt;consumption / conservation - - - what may we do to reduce our dependence on oil and coal?
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&lt;br/&gt;what will we do to bring biofuels, solar, wind etc. to the table? 
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&lt;br/&gt;Is there really a chance we haven't gone beyond the threshhold of DOOM?
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&lt;br/&gt;Is it possible we may "repair" some of the damage done?
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&lt;br/&gt;Hmmmmm ? ? ?&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Finally some more news from EEStor, the incredibly secretive hypercapacitor funded by hotshot venture capitalists Kleiner Perkins Caufield &amp;amp; Byers. 
&lt;br/&gt; Our readers tell us that their patent describes barium titanate capacitors stacked in series with a very high operating voltage. Our commenters also expressed reservations about the difficulty of doing this, suggesting that "The manufacturing obstacles are significant, as are the market obstacles of getting anyone to drive around in a car with energy storage at 3500 Vdc." 
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&lt;br/&gt;Thus we are excited to find that a) they have "completed the initial milestone of certifying purification, concentration, and stability of all of its key production chemicals notably the attainment of 99.9994% purity of its barium nitrate powder.",b) that they have "been awarded a critical patent related to our technology and has 12 additional patents pending.", c) We have built a state-of-the-art facility and have exceptional personnel onboard." and most importantly, it "remains on track to begin shipping production 15 kilowatt-hour Electrical Energy Storage Units (EESU) to ZENN Motor Company in 2007 for use in their electric vehicles." -It is actually coming soon. 
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&lt;br/&gt;I had the opportunity to meet Ian Clifford, the CEO of ZENN, a couple of weeks ago, and have rarely met a more straightforward and likeable CEO. I hope to be among the first to drive home in a new EEStor powered ZENN before the year is out. Full press release after the fold. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The first EEStor, Inc. automated production line has been proven to meet the requirements for precise chemical delivery, purity control, parameter control and stability.
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&lt;br/&gt;In addition, EEStor, Inc. has completed the initial milestone of certifying purification, concentration, and stability of all of its key production chemicals notably the attainment of 99.9994% purity of its barium nitrate powder.
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&lt;br/&gt;The independent 3rd party chemical analysis was completed by Southwest Research Institute, Inc. located in San Antonio, Texas under contract with EEStor, Inc.
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&lt;br/&gt;With these milestones completed, EEStor, Inc. is now in the process of producing on its automated production line, composition-modified barium titanate powders and is moving toward completing its next major milestone of powder certification.
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&lt;br/&gt;It is anticipated that the relative permittivity of the current powder will-either meet and/or exceed 18,500, the previous level achieved when EEStor, Inc. produced prototype components using it engineering level processing equipment. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Richard Weir, CEO and President of EEStor, Inc. added: "We are very proud of the key advancements we have made over the past year. In addition to the milestones identified, the Company has also been awarded a critical patent related to our technology and has 12 additional patents pending. We have built a state-of-the-art facility and have exceptional personnel onboard."
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&lt;br/&gt;The first commercial application of the EESU is intended to be used in electric vehicles under a technology agreement with ZENN Motors Company. EEStor, Inc. remains on track to begin shipping production 15 kilowatt-hour Electrical Energy Storage Units (EESU) to ZENN Motor Company in 2007 for use in their electric vehicles. The production EESU for ZENN Motor Company will function to specification in operating environments as sever as negative 20 to plus 65 degrees Celsius, will weigh less than 100 pounds, and will have ability to be recharged in a matter of minutes.
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&lt;br/&gt;A story Graham Toquer , one of my editors came across, seems interesting.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:27:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
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      <title>Hi Guys,</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hi Guys,
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&lt;br/&gt;I have added an Energy Efficiency section to my website- Comments/Suggestions would be great.
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&lt;br/&gt;Link:  http://www.worldofrenewables.com/EnergyEfficiency/index.html
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&lt;br/&gt;Grant Rowe
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&lt;br/&gt;World of Renewables
&lt;br/&gt;grantrowe@worldofrenewables.com&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:18:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;i can feed my websites news articles into my profile page but not into this renewable groups page...any ideas?&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:32:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>follow on from discussion about what we can do now.-story from wn</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Energy efficiency for power plants, cars or homes is the easiest way to slow global warming in a long-term investment shift that will cost hundreds of billions of dollars, the United Nations said.  
&lt;br/&gt;A UN report about climate investments, outlined to a meeting in Vienna of 1,000 delegates from 158 nations, also said emissions of greenhouse gases could be curbed more cheaply in developing nations than in rich states in coming decades.
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&lt;br/&gt;The cash needed to return rising emissions, mainly from burning fossil fuels, to current levels by 2030 would amount to 0.3 to 0.5 per cent of projected gross domestic product (GDP), or 1.1 to 1.7 per cent of global investment flows, in 2030, it said.
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&lt;br/&gt;"Energy efficiency is the most promising means to reduce greenhouse gases in the short term," said Yvo de Boer, the head of the UN Climate Change Secretariat, presenting the report to the August 27-31 meeting.
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&lt;br/&gt;That could mean tougher standards for cars, factories, coal-fired power plants or buildings in using fossil fuels.
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&lt;br/&gt;And government policies could encourage people to pick energy efficient lightbulbs, for instance, or discourage them from wasting energy by heating empty outdoor terraces.
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&lt;br/&gt;The 216-page report was published online last week.
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&lt;br/&gt;De Boer said the study could help guide governments, meeting in Austria to discuss a longer-term strategy against global warming beyond the UN's Kyoto Protocol. The protocol binds 35 rich nations to cap emissions of greenhouse gases by 2008-12.
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&lt;br/&gt;The report estimates that "global additional investment and financial flows of $US200 billion-$US210 billion ($A242 billion-$A254 billion) will be necessary in 2030 to return greenhouse gas emissions to current levels", including measures for energy supply, forestry and transport.
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&lt;br/&gt;The study foresees a shift to renewable energies such as solar and hydropower, and some nuclear power. Environmentalists say that the report lacks ambition and that emissions need to be below current levels by 2030.
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&lt;br/&gt;The report also estimates that investments in helping nations adapt to the impact of climate change would run to tens of billions of dollars in 2030, such as treating more cases of malaria or building dykes to protect beaches from rising seas.
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&lt;br/&gt;It said carbon markets would have to be "significantly expanded to address needs for additional investments and financial flows." Companies are now responsible for about 60 per cent of global investments.
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&lt;br/&gt;Harlan Watson, the chief US climate negotiator, said it was unclear how governments could mobilise such vast investments by the private sector. "That's a key question," he said.
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&lt;br/&gt;The report fills in some gaps in a wider picture given by previous studies such as one by former World Bank chief economist Nicholas Stern saying it would be cheaper to confront climate change now than wait to combat the consequences.
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&lt;br/&gt;UN reports this year have also projected that warming will bring more heatwaves, droughts, disease and rising seas.
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&lt;br/&gt;De Boer said investments to developing nations should rise.
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&lt;br/&gt;"The bulk of cost-effective opportunities are in developing countries," he said, adding that did not mean that rich nations should seek only to invest abroad rather than at home.
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&lt;br/&gt;"More than half the energy investment needed is in developing countries," he said. China is opening coal-fired power plants at a rate of two per week to feed its growing economy and cleaner technology would help the climate.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:48:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I can add an rss to my profile fro my website but not to thid tribe!? is that right?
&lt;br/&gt;If so its a shame we could have a regular supply from my writers.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:08:29 GMT</pubDate>
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