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Just visited the Ohio Renaissance Festival yesterday. Aside from stage acts, there appeared to be about ten performers on the streets. It was deadly dull, and the only interaction my wife and I got was a conversation we struck up with one woman in a creditable German dress – it looked as though she’d been looking through _Tudor Tailor_ based on the wire-framed coif-y thing, and as it turned out she had - and a few booth folks who were very complimentary regarding the authenticity of our suits. No real attempts to establish or remain in character from much of anybody.
NO street theatre. Apparently they’ve cut their cast dramatically over the past few years. The court consisted of a woman I have to assume was supposed to be QE1 (the plum-hued dress looked noble, but far from royal), two guys in approximate Beefeater suits (closer to the real livery than the Yeomen of the Guard , I have to say), and a couple of Distinctly Furrin types in black. A couple of years ago, I’m told they had twenty in Court, and I got the impression they were paid performers.
Nice site – permanent buildings and such. (Love to see a roaming production of, say, “Midsummer Night’s Dream” or "Much Ado" there, with the audience following the action around.) (Actually, "Merry Wives" would be delightful there, but I'm not sure how well it would play).
Their innyards – selling both food and ale – had musical acts playing. That was a nice touch too. Of course, it was mostly Irish bands, but from a let's-sit-down-and-dine POV, it's a good idea.
If I had time to spare, I’d get involved, just to see what kind of change they’d be open to seeing. There seemed to be only one group approximating a guild, a party of landsknechten who huddled in their tent most of the day with their backs to the world. Apparently they do a live chess game a couple of times a day, but we missed it.
Same tired bawdy jokes from the hawkers; a live joust with no sense of history or honour – just an extreme sport. The standard cheer-leading repartee for that group was the most interaction with the crowd that we saw from any event or group there. One "knight's" joke about backing a horse up to the "other knight's" side of the audience because "he had Taco Bell lat night and I'm waiting for him to fart" was pretty typical. While people around us were shouting "Marcus", I was shouting "Honour!", which did not surprise me by going unnoticed.
A booth labelled "Authentic Gear" lied in its boothic teeth.
Tails, tails, tails. The low-comedy highlight of the day for me was a woman with a blue-tipped white tail. Looked as though it had been dipped in a privy. . . and when I sounded her out, it turned out that was exactly what had happened. She seemed unconcerned about continuing to wear it, which is a comment either on her standards or her fortitude – take your pick.
Pictures at 11:00 (our time, which is about as soon as I can post them).
NO street theatre. Apparently they’ve cut their cast dramatically over the past few years. The court consisted of a woman I have to assume was supposed to be QE1 (the plum-hued dress looked noble, but far from royal), two guys in approximate Beefeater suits (closer to the real livery than the Yeomen of the Guard , I have to say), and a couple of Distinctly Furrin types in black. A couple of years ago, I’m told they had twenty in Court, and I got the impression they were paid performers.
Nice site – permanent buildings and such. (Love to see a roaming production of, say, “Midsummer Night’s Dream” or "Much Ado" there, with the audience following the action around.) (Actually, "Merry Wives" would be delightful there, but I'm not sure how well it would play).
Their innyards – selling both food and ale – had musical acts playing. That was a nice touch too. Of course, it was mostly Irish bands, but from a let's-sit-down-and-dine POV, it's a good idea.
If I had time to spare, I’d get involved, just to see what kind of change they’d be open to seeing. There seemed to be only one group approximating a guild, a party of landsknechten who huddled in their tent most of the day with their backs to the world. Apparently they do a live chess game a couple of times a day, but we missed it.
Same tired bawdy jokes from the hawkers; a live joust with no sense of history or honour – just an extreme sport. The standard cheer-leading repartee for that group was the most interaction with the crowd that we saw from any event or group there. One "knight's" joke about backing a horse up to the "other knight's" side of the audience because "he had Taco Bell lat night and I'm waiting for him to fart" was pretty typical. While people around us were shouting "Marcus", I was shouting "Honour!", which did not surprise me by going unnoticed.
A booth labelled "Authentic Gear" lied in its boothic teeth.
Tails, tails, tails. The low-comedy highlight of the day for me was a woman with a blue-tipped white tail. Looked as though it had been dipped in a privy. . . and when I sounded her out, it turned out that was exactly what had happened. She seemed unconcerned about continuing to wear it, which is a comment either on her standards or her fortitude – take your pick.
Pictures at 11:00 (our time, which is about as soon as I can post them).
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 8:16 AM
Gereg said:
"A booth labelled "Authentic Gear" lied in its boothic teeth. "
LOL I don't know why but, man that is funny this morning :) -
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 9:34 AMI sometimes wonder if some ambitious person could offer to take such a production in hand and guide it towards a higher standard.
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 10:50 AMAll it takes is money Rydell... and the rest is vision. -
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 10:57 AMI mean, why not sidle up to the clueless producer and say "Hey, give me a couple of seasons and I can make this thing hum". -
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 1:55 PM>I mean, why not sidle up to the clueless producer and say "Hey, give me a couple of seasons and I can make this thing hum". <
Unfortunately that line is used by those who have bad ideas as well as good,
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 1:58 PM>I mean, why not sidle up to the clueless producer and say "Hey, give me a couple of seasons and I can make this thing hum". <
Unfortunately that line is used by those who have bad ideas as well as good,
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 11:04 AMI wonder how many producers would be open to such a suggestion. I'd rather think they would call security and have you removed. But, with your gift (and I mean that as a compliment) perhaps a letter offering assistance would be a better approach and may be better received.
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 11:06 AMExactly my point.
I'm working on one show myself.
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 12:15 PMIf there were no street actors, who were wearing the tails...?
Sounds truly dismal.
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 1:02 PMYou poor, poor dear. Here's your drink... have a sit-down in the shade. It'll all be over soon.
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 12:15 AMwith a blue-tipped white tail. Looked as though it had been dipped in a privy. . .
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 1:44 PMFunny, that's what Val said - and Kimberly, for that matter. (I, of course, am Far Too Manly to say such a thing.) In fact, the only one who seemed not be grossed out about it was the wench herself.
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 7:58 PMThe ORF sounds truly sad, Gereg. Have they at least good ale there, and victuals and beer?
(sigh) So much potential and so little to show or it.
For why is all around us here
As if some lesser god had made the world,
But had not force to shape it as he would?
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Thu, October 1, 2009 - 3:15 PMAh yes - the food and ale. Thank you for reminding me - knew I'd forgotten something (in the main because it was so forgettable).
There was a booth selling burgers and hot dogs; another selling bangers & mash, fish & chips, and meat pies - all of which were painfully obviously mass-produced far in advance, and served in niggardly portions. As far as beverages, there was availability of Smithwick's, Guinness, Harp and Sam Adams, as well as Woodchuck Cider: also served in niggardly portions. I don't regard Adams as real ale - somewhat pallid flavour and no decent body to it - and I really have to be in the mood for the others. I drank the cider, as the most English thing there. -
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Thu, October 1, 2009 - 9:39 PMAll that makes me appreciate NCRF so much more.
No real ale and no real food there at the Ohio "event." God's teeth, how did you survive? Man does not live by cider alone.
I will quaff an ale for you, Gereg.
John Alchemiste
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Mon, October 12, 2009 - 8:38 AMHI Folks,
I have attended Ohio faire off and on for about 10 years and and last season performed one weekend as "guest cast" along with a large group of nobles from my own faire (when we arrived we literally doubled the size of their cast).
So, from my own experience and observations I can tell you that Ohio faire has dramatically changed in recent years. To the best of my knowledge they have always been a faire with only a passing acquaintance with history and a relatively small cast. As far as I know they have always been much more focused on events and stage shows rather than character and interaction.
For a long time they had a court of about 20 players plus the Queen, a cast of townsfolk and some theme characters but they mainly did a few small cast shows that lead up to the combat chess match and the end of day joust. There was very little of the "characters in the lane" sort of thing. For many years they did make some attempt to play historical - they just never really played much - the only time you saw the queen and the court all day was on parade, at the chess match and at the joust...the Queen and court were always people in pretty clothes to be admired from afar.
About 4 years ago there was a change in managment and a big revamping of the cast and style of the faire. They have had 3 queens in 4 years and their nod to history had pretty much disappeared with the exception of character names - they use the names of Queen Elizabeth and her courtiers, but that is pretty much where the history ends.
As a guest performer working with their noble cast one weekend last season, I had several chats with their "guildmaster" (the poor man had the desire to be a real guildmaster but was not permitted to do so) who was greatly surprised and a bit envious to discover that at our faire the guilds chose and developed their own characters, created their own parts of the show, designed and created their own costumes, practiced dialect, etc. It seems that at the "new improved" Ohio faire ALL decisions re: characters, how they are played, what they do what they wear, etc is dictated by one person in faire management and the actors have little or no input in the matter. Unfortunately, the decision of management seemed to be to toss all things historical out the window but the names and turn the cast into a bunch of slapstick cartoon comedy characters who wear whatever costume "goes with the character" whether it fits the actor or not. All costume approvals come down from on high with the guildmasters having no chance of approval or correction so you see a lot of things like ladies skirts ending 2 inches above their ankle and worn with clearly visible jeans and sneakers underneath (in cast!) doublets that have the waist seam below the hips, etc.
As to what the management has chosen to do with the characters; that is truly a sad thing...last season, Lord Burleigh carried a whoopee cushion everywhere he went and made "fart" noises constantly, when asked about the odd acting choice he explained that "its what the director wants me to do", The Earl of Leicester was played as a "shrieking mimi" who was afraid of mice and would leap into the arms of any large man nearby whenever he "saw a mouse" . He was also played as being far more romantically interested in the "big strong pirates" than he was in Elizabeth and he wore a top hat and drank from a tea pot which hung from his belt in place of a goblet (really)...I don't know what management was thinking when they came up with that one, but the character was far more a bad attempt at a "Mad Hatter" than the Earl of Leicester! All of the characters are totally "one trick ponies" that have only one thing that they do such as fart, act drunk, shriek, etc.
And yes, they do indeed have a combat chess match which in years past has been done by good fighters and been interesting and thrilling to watch and displayed a variety of combat styles using character appropriate weapons ranging from food items and farm tools to swords and daggers. In previous years, the chess match would be fought well by both sides and end in a draw - the winner to be determined on the joust field. (thus setting up the end of day joust).
Last year, there were two teams of pirates who fought for a bit for no reason other than they were pirates and then the fight changed and became a sword duel between the Queen and the Earl of Leicester over some money that Leicester stole from the Mayor...and yes, our shouts of "Treason!" were loud but useless...Also I was concerned about safety in the chess match as at least two of the fighters had their moves and fight sequences written on the floor of their team's platform in sharpie marker and refered to the list frequently as if they really didn't know what move came next from minute to minute...
I am very sad to say that in my opinion, Ohio faire has gone from a nice faire with a small and aloof but historically based cast to what now looks like a nice hard site that has been taken over by a pack of highschool kids doing a poorly conceived attempt at "shock theater" directed by Beavis and Butthead...
As my own group of nobles left Ohio Faire after playing with their court for the day, the Ohio court guildmaster gave me a big hug and whispered in my ear "I wish they would let us be like you!" It is my understanding that he and several other of last season's Ohio cast who were interested in "really doing faire" did not return this year...which may explain at least in part the greatly reduced cast size this season.
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Mon, October 12, 2009 - 5:11 PMHow incredibly sad. When I hear things like this, I just appreciate what I have more. Honestly, if you want to do the fart/slapstick/Bevis show, why even bother with "real" characters. Just make some up and make the whole faire a fantasy frappe. You can do Black Adder, have a lark but why call it a Renaissance Faire. It's like me selling apples to people that are really oranges painted red. Not the same thing at all.
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, October 13, 2009 - 3:51 PMOw. How exceedingly distressing. I'm really sorry I missed the 'good old days'. Thank you for the 'historical' insight. -
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, October 13, 2009 - 5:31 PMBut Dre, I really do want to see you selling things - anything, really - to people that are really apples painted red. That's a great image to sketch of your customers...
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, October 13, 2009 - 6:23 PMHI Gereg,
I must say that the young lady who currently plays the queen at Ohio is a delightful actress who is ever ready to interact with patrons - she has all the makings of a good Queen, she just needs a better faire to do it at...same with most of the noble cast. When I spoke with them back stage last season, they all knew the details of the history of their characters rather well, they just weren't being allowed by management to play their characters in a way that allowed them to express the depth of their knowledge to the audience.
Vel
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Wed, October 14, 2009 - 6:13 AMThe Ohio QE1 did in fact seem a pleasant soul, and she was certainly available to the patrons. (Us, in this case.) As soon as Kimberly's camera came in view, she took stage with the best of 'em.
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Tue, October 13, 2009 - 11:10 PMSounds like what is going on at PA. (ticket sales are coincidentally in the toilet apparently)
So, you shift the focus to cartoon stereotypes and beer/boobs, tie the creative hands of the cast and dress them poorly, and do shallow and occasionally unsafe shows... and both cast and patrons desert like rats from a sinking ship. Who could have fortold such a strange turn of events? After all, the business types know what the customers really want, don't they? jeez. -
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Re: Ohio Renaissance Festival: a snob's review
Wed, October 14, 2009 - 9:23 AM(but I'm not bitter!)
moving along...
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