I was thinking today about how I've had many romantic 'relationships', but that they always seem to last about as long as a firework. It's a cycle that is driving me crazy, the coy look, light flirting, touching, sexuality (whether or not sex is had), a moment of contentment, then the angst, the arguments...and finally, the disappearing. The timing of all this changes, but the cycle doesn't.
Have any of you had this problem? I wonder if having a Scorpio rising has anything to do with this very phoenix-ish relationship pattern. It's infuriating.
Have any of you had this problem? I wonder if having a Scorpio rising has anything to do with this very phoenix-ish relationship pattern. It's infuriating.
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Re: Plutonian Relationships?
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 12:10 PMHmmm...not me. Quite the contrary actually. Haven't been in many relationships and the ones that I've been in were always satisfying. No fighting, or very little.
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Sat, June 7, 2008 - 12:52 PMHmmmm, i dnt normally get involved deeply in relationships, for me its more about the fun, and i get bored easily and they end up gettin hurt because id just cut them outta my life (usually with no explanation), i know, dats bad. But the few times that i've been in commited and proper relationships, ive been very loyal and loving, one was actually bout 4 years and a long distance one. For me its either all or nothing, black or white. When i sense that i cant give my all, i dont jump into relationships. But that's probably not very plutonian of me. Might be the Uranus in 1st, or Mars in Gemini... -
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Sat, June 7, 2008 - 12:53 PMJust remembered I've also got my venus in 5th house, so that might explain things...
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Sat, June 7, 2008 - 3:59 PMVenus in aries, moon in pisces.
And no, I don't enjoy short relationships. ;) But I can get aggressive in pursuing someone. -
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Sat, June 7, 2008 - 4:34 PMI have only had a short and intense 3 week romance with a girl once. we started to get very close and I was getting ready for a comitted relationship but, I can tell that this was a level of romance she was not ready for though. I think I got all intense for her and she backed off. Didn't even wanna be friends. Started trying to get back with me later but I had moved on.
I can tell you are like the Starbucks drink: Triple Caramel Machiato. Strong and sweet. A great quality to find in a woman if you are a strong man with no insecurities.
The strong women I know here in my area are either single or they have a submissive man. " wha'-pish'!'' (whip crackin' sound effect) and that is the problem. I dont know what is up with lotsa my fellow men these days. There are so many weeklings nowadays.
Worry not, Lexie. You personallity appears strong and you actually look very attractive.
you will find a strong commitable man. Surprised no one has snatched you up.
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Re: Plutonian Relationships?
Mon, June 23, 2008 - 5:24 PMI used to do this until one of my old boyfriends introduced me to "the perfect man for me" (his words) and that was it. Of course, it was all on my end before that. I'm very exacting and unemotional when it comes to dating so the first time I would hear them say something I didn't think would be compatible with me, they were done. Very, very few made it through one date.
Do you have a guy friend who can sort them out for you? :o) -
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Tue, June 24, 2008 - 5:54 AMAlas, I have mostly female friends these days, and they all think that getting laid will solve all my problems. @.@
Bless their little hearts. -
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Sat, June 28, 2008 - 12:32 PMgetting laid doesn't solve problems but it certainly takes the edge off.
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Fri, June 27, 2008 - 11:25 PMi thought this was about Plutonians in relationship to other Plutonians... lol
well...
i have a fear of commitment... with people who are very easy to win, anyway...
those whose actions or loyalty i can easily predict.
is that unhealthy?
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and i am crazy in love with an asshole.
and i would do anything for him.
i would break all my boundaries, change my beliefs, etc...
it's unhealthy, isn't it?
however, i think the asshole (a quadruple scorpio with aquarius ascendant; plus mars, uranus, and pluto in 8th house)...
he's a gift to me, i rather like how he's making me break my boundaries and discover new things about myself.
this is just a "karmic" relationship though...
we'll see what happens later.... -
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Sat, June 28, 2008 - 3:50 PMI know how that goes. :) I am (was?) talking to someone emotionally significant to me who's been breaking all my walls down slowly but surely. He thinks I'm too emotional. *raises eyebrow* But I hope he continues to break the walls down, because I'm tired of being holed up in my tower.
And meh on the unhealthy stuff. I don't mind changing things about me to be with someone else. I don't even care if I have to 'pick a religion'. Because no matter what I change to be with someone special to me a) it's worth it and b) it doesn't change WHO I am. ya know? it doesn't feel like a sacrifice to me to do some little changes just to please someone else. So i get ya. Other people would start screaming that hypo-militant-feminist crap, but me? I'm with ya. -
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Mon, June 30, 2008 - 9:28 PMmy former partner and i both have pluto in libra conjnct our ascendant - and conjunct eachother's... and conjunct my sun (although my asc is scorp and hers libra)
something about analyzing everything to death and triggering eachother's death/regeneration cycles.
it was a *pretty* mindblowing exp to say the least tho - dont know how many times i *died* in her arms.
transformational
beyond compatible in many ways (the orientation of our zodiacs were only a couple degrees off)
but at square odds in others (our suns were an almost exact square (me: scorp; her: leo)
we never actually had a fight... though there were some pretty intense discussions. what broke it was that she wanted a degree of emotional exclusivity that i could not offer. physical exclusivity was no prob at all but i could not change the fundamental way i relate with others - ie: from a place radical intimacy and honesty with my own experience and its expression. -
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Wed, July 2, 2008 - 5:41 PMthat cycle is also know as "Serial Monogamy"
but in all serious, I don't doubt the intense death/regeneration thematic can be due largely in part to the
lending of Plutonian aspects...doth spoke the Scorpio girl with five planets in Scorpio :)
It is very rare to find those with Plutonian energy heavily aspected who don't live this Phoenix cycle -
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Thu, July 3, 2008 - 9:54 AMwhich cycle is 'that cycle' you refer to?
monogamy was certainly a buzz-word in many of our discussions...
despite being really comfortable with sexual exclusivity - i do not identify as monogamous (ie: one Love) -
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Re: Plutonian Relationships?
Thu, July 3, 2008 - 12:21 PMI was referring to Lexie's original post:
"It's a cycle that is driving me crazy, the coy look, light flirting, touching, sexuality (whether or not sex is had), a moment of contentment, then the angst, the arguments...and finally, the disappearing"
...aka "Serial Monogamy" (posted as tongue-in-cheek) -
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Re: Plutonian Relationships?
Thu, July 3, 2008 - 5:43 PMmhm.
was a serial monogamy cycle that i ran into i think...
ive been really blessed with certain formative partners in my life who placed more value on the connection than the romance (or lack thereof) and have remained my dearest and most valued friends after our relationship changed. acknowledging that we are in very transformative times and that people and dynamics change constantly... but that the connection is enduring and real
the coy look, light flirting, touching, sexuality (whether or not sex is had), a moment of contentment, then disturbance, triggers, changing dynamics, awkwardness and discomfort, some really hard work facing self... and finally, solid friendship - less zing, deeper roots, trust, respect, *maybe* occasional twinges of regret and heartache, and memories of pleasures, passions, and lessons...
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