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What does it mean when some astrological intepretations say scorpios are interested/obsessed with death? I can understand the rebirth or regeneration part : meaning scorpios can rise from the ashes, but do scorpios also destroy or deconstruct situations as well. Do we seek to undermine situations just to cause havoc? What is your take on the theme of death as related to scorpios. I hope it doesnt imply that our basic tendecies are destructive. Thoughts?
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Wed, September 9, 2009 - 4:48 PMWell first realize that not all Scorpios are alike. They can actually be very different based on the other influences in the chart. Certainly the Scorpios I've known have been varied.
On the theme of death - this can play out in different ways. It could be a person who seems surrounded by death. One Scorpio I know has seen her entire family die off in the last three years. I don't think she goes one month without a major death around her. She's obviously obsessed with it because it keeps happening.
It can be a person who thinks about their own death all the time or obsesses about "losing" people.
Then it can be what I call the "dark" Scorpio. This would be a Scorpio with all the negative traits of Scorpio in full force. Obsessive, possessive, suspicious, etc. One that feels they own everything and anything around them and that it cannot leave even if the alternative is to destroy it. The kind that won't let anyone else hurt you, but they'd get rid of you themselves in a heart beat if you crossed them or they felt you were in the way. This is the dangerous Scorpio. This is the one who rides across the lake on the back of a frog then stabs it with its tail and they both die because "it's my nature." I've only met one of those but I always thought she was a "dark" Scorpio. Unfortunately she was my mother. -
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Thu, September 10, 2009 - 6:25 AM"One that feels they own everything and anything around them and that it cannot leave even if the alternative is to destroy it."
I like this quote, Zanne. I have all too many of your negative Scorpio qualities. This is gonna sound crazy, but if i ever were in a relationship, and the guy i'm involved with were cheating on me and fell in love with his "other woman", and wanted to leave me for her - i would think about ending his life. This is how i'm selfish, most women would be happy he's leaving, he's a cheater and he's no good, but for me it's a feeling of loss. Like if our relationship was a game, and i lost. I'm a sore loser, i admit. Under normal circumstances, if he were to cheat on me and i caught him, i would get my revenge and leave - therefore i still remain victorious. It would kill me to see him happy with her, if he's ever gonna be happy, it's gotta be with me, and no one else. Plus, how dare he try to escape without being punished! If you cross me, you MUST be punished. So my only option would be to kill him, to end it all. I would let her live, to cry and hurt over his death. I would be sad too, not sorry i killed him, but sorry i "had" to kill him, sorry he made the mistake of falling for another and trying to leave me, and sorry it ended the way it did. It would be a deadly mixure of jealousy and vengence for me. -
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Thu, September 10, 2009 - 2:20 PMhah. wow Aminah you explained my (past?) attitude well.
well these days i want to not care about cheaters at all...
i think this is why i am determined to be a master at reading people - to make sure that i don't get involved with people who'd end up hurting me...
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Wed, September 9, 2009 - 11:12 PMWell, as far as death goes with me, it's something i always was fascinated by, and in some ways obsessed. As a child, i used to think about all types of sick, crazy, horrible, and even funny ways to die. The last crazy thought i had about death, was a couple of months ago. Just like any other person would have a random thought about anything, i was thinking, "If you took a chainsaw to someone's head, would the head itself split directly in half, or would it break into several pieces during the process?" Then, that turned into, "What if the person were still alive while this is going on? Would they still be screaming for a few seconds after they are dead? How long would the eyes stay intact? How would that feel? I think about things like this all the time. Yeah, i would make an awesome serial killer! And i have an fascination with those, too! :) Also, because i have obsessive thoughts about almost anything, losing people i love by horrible ways of death is an obsessive fear of mine. Not so much now, by as a young child definitely. Scorpio Rising or people with a lot of Scorpio planetary placements (both for me), can be prone to morbid characteristics in their personality. This is how i always interpreted the death association with Scorpio Rising, anyway.
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Thu, September 10, 2009 - 12:31 AMto me...
these days i'm feeling that my self has to die, to become completely >>non-existent<< before i can create "a new me"
it's tough but necessary.
easier said than done.
i don't know how that happens. it's kinda dreadful.
as for physical death. i've never been scared of death coming for me.
i once was suicidal too.
but apparently got over it. -
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Thu, September 10, 2009 - 2:25 PMi just remembered this morning.
i had twice dreamed of murder.
before we all freak out though, let's keep in mind that it's all symbols....
it means "killing off" old nasty/useless habits/attitudes.
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 8:15 AMi totally feel you on that, and btw im a noob as of 10 minutes ago hey all! but yeah my rising is right at the end of scorpio, i remember distinctly back in like 5th grade asking a teacher what dying must be like, in a light hearted philosophical way, and they went and told my parents :o so everyone thought i was suicidal. the funny thing is i was suicidal until i made a promise i wouldnt do such a thing, then it became a lesson in selflessness you know
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 8:34 AMI saw a dead rabbit strewn across the raod whilst on a peaceful walk in the country side. Its eyes had decomposed, eaten by bugs or something. I immidiately felt sickened, shocked, but then realised, everyone will end up like this, and the body is just a vehicle, the spirit animates all things in existence, why worry about my appearance? Because all humans seek some form of aesthetic harmony, and the body represents the inturnal struggle for spiritual freedom from dense forms of existence. That rabbit was free, and I am still imprisoned, but much to learn from this journey. Death is just a word, a term, the process begins at birth, passing on is release. Scorpio is about release, nothing so bleak about that is there? -
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Sat, September 26, 2009 - 4:36 PMi wouldnt say obsessed with death. but im fascinated by it. I often think about death in a sense of this could be my last day of life...or of loseing someone i love.. and then i ponder about what happens after death. and i wonder about what it feels like...
The good side about thinking this way is that I always live my life to the fullest and i stop to appreciate the little things life has to offer. I would hate to live life as most people do without even aknowledging the fact that death is what will happen to all of us someday... -
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Sat, September 26, 2009 - 4:39 PMJust wanted to add....i do admit that i have a major obsession with those murder shows. LOL!!! i dont know why tho but i would love to be a crime scene investigator! -
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 12:23 AMFor all the Scorpio influenced people I know I would have to say that interest in death is a reoccuring theme...
They do vary, but overall I would say
I think they get preoccupied with death because it is the ultimate unknown...
and perhaps because-with all their energies- it is still something more powerful than they are...
Just my take..
It also goes back to their strong survival instinct..
My father has scorpio rising and he is "always prepared" and tells me things about skills for survival...
from plants that I could eat in the wild, to how to get away from someone if they grab me...to how to fall out of a car...dodge a bullet..
you name it, he knows how to survive it...lol!
I am not Scorp rising, however I do have a stellium (mars/venus/jupiter) and
death is something that I reflect on often/ is an awareness I carry....
But for me personally...I think I take death on a more philisophical approach.
Really, I feel anyone who embraces life fully would also have a keen awareness of death
because they are 2 sides of the sames coin.. the full circle...
I have often said death is a sacred time just like birth..
.it is a time of transition for us...and transformation...
it is mysterious and profound.
There are many aspects that interest me...
and yes, I am down for a good crime show (like you mentioned Will...)
My probing mind loves to ponder motives to murder and the emotions behind them and such...
Death is indeed a great mystery....
but I would not say it is an obsession,
it is more of a respect for something I have no control over, and Socrates said we fear it yet it could be
the greatest of things we experience...we have no way to know...
And on the flip side: life-
Death serves as a sobering reminder to the value I place on my life,
to keep the bs out and to be fully engaged in all I do.
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 1:06 PMI recently had attended a memorial of a boy from my hometown who had sadly committed suicide. I knew his family but not him and I was stunned and humbled by the responses, it deeply moved me in a way that still unnerves me. All the love and pain, anger and shock just hitting like a tidal wave, I recall hugging his mother and breaking down crying. I had kept my emotions under control untill I saw her and it was like the floodgates opened in me. During everything I kept thinking it was as close to a public ritual, spiritual level, that unites us all...it sadned me to think it takes a tragic event to bring people together like that. To shock and stun them into change. I've gone to weddings, etc and felt nothing, it bothers me to think life can end up so meaningless and detached, unreal. Mabe a better way of putting it, people are addicted to feeling good and comfortable, no one knows how to handle/deal with the dark ugly side of life and the undercurrent. So we over medicate and look for quick easy fixes, because it's too uncomfortable to face. Numbing ourselves to life itself by not facing the 'deaths' in life, be it of people, relationships, what have you. just my take on it. -
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 9:21 PMI can totally sympathize with and understand this sentiment. My neices death from a terminal llness affected me so profoundly it changed me forever.
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Sat, October 10, 2009 - 6:02 PMMy Scorpio husband like to watch those true murder shows. I (Scorpio rising) don't care for them much because I find them disturbing. I like ghost shows, though.
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Sat, October 31, 2009 - 5:05 PMI am terribly fascinated by death. I can remember when I was about four years old, my mother worked and left me and my brother home alone, fear came over me that someone would break in our apartment and kill us. In my little head I had plans of faking a death scene in case anyone attempt to break in our apartment and harm me and my brother. i figured if they came in and saw us lying their dead they would just pass us by and I remember planning to use ketchup as blood. I also had the greatest fears that my mother would never return home. Every house/apartment I ever lived in I always wondered if anyone has died in it.
To this day, I am 25, and I have never experience the death of someone close to me, but that has always been a fear of mines. I am almost afraid to get too close to anyone for fear that they would die. I cannot help the attraction I have to reading obituaries and watching homicide detective type shows. I wonder about death alot. I never understood why I was fascinated by death until I found out this year that I not only had scorpio rising in my chart, but I was also born on a libra/scorpio cusp, and I also have scorpio in other places in my chart. Now everything is beginning to make sense to me.
I try to stop myself from getting obessed with death because it is not something that I want to attract into my life. Around the same age of five, I have always had an interest in spirits and a fear of them as well. At night my mother would call her friend and they would talk of real ghost experiences and instead of sleeping I would stay up listening to her conversations - which haunted me for many years.
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Re: The theme of death as related to scorpio rising: what does it really mean?
Mon, November 2, 2009 - 4:23 AMI read Scorpio Risers have a very high level of "death axiety", which is just a reflection of self awareness. They are a dichotomy of confidence and fear. They are obsessed with preserving themselves, which can be mistaken for selfishness or self-centeredness. The idea of not "being" scares the shit out of them. That is why, despite their fixed nature, have the ability to TRANSFORM and ADAPT. Darwin even has a theory on this; and it is that creatures who have the ability to adapt to change are the ones who survive.
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