Apparently one of Scorpio's key words is "transformation", so I'm wondering how that manifests in your lives as Scorpio ascendants?
I am noticing a pattern in my life where my most meaningful relationships have been those where I have had a profoundly transformative effect on the other person. It's not intentional at all. I don't ever set out to challenge people or to inspire change in them, it seems to happen simply through my presence in one's sphere. And the friendships and relationships that seem to fizzle are those with people who are resistant to change or who can't face themselves.
What about you?
I am noticing a pattern in my life where my most meaningful relationships have been those where I have had a profoundly transformative effect on the other person. It's not intentional at all. I don't ever set out to challenge people or to inspire change in them, it seems to happen simply through my presence in one's sphere. And the friendships and relationships that seem to fizzle are those with people who are resistant to change or who can't face themselves.
What about you?
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Sat, February 23, 2008 - 9:34 PMI'll let you transform me if you let me transform you?
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Sun, February 24, 2008 - 10:43 AMI've read about these 'transformative' relationships I was supposed to be having...and aside from throwing up walls or tearing some down, the men I've dated haven't had much of an effect on my psyche.
It's important to me, though, that I affect others. In my low states, I wonder if I've ever had an effect on anyone. Then, sometimes, people come around years later telling me how I showed them the negative aspects of how they were treating people. It comes around time and time again, and while I'm sad that I've made them feel bad about themselves, I'm glad I made them confront it (even if I never have any idea that I'm doing it)
1. Ex boyfriend- dated five months, but after that time, it tore me apart that he didn't want to actually be exclusive with me (i used the term boyfriend loosely). I dumped him once when he stood me up. We got back together a week later and it didn't take me long to dump him again. 8 years later, he shows up again, wondering why I dumped him then, and apologizing for not recognizing me for who I was at the time.
2. Recent boyfriend- dumped me because he knew he was selfish, inconsiderate, and every time he brought up something dark and didn't see it reflected in me, it made him so keenly aware that I wasn't for him. Took a lot of reflection on my part to realize that this is the true reason for our break up. I didn't want to find the pits of darkness in humanity and sex with him, I was open to friendships unlike him, I enjoyed sunlight and was a bit more open-minded...etc.
I'm thankful that in some small way, I have made my mark upon the world, but I wish for once I could be in a romantic relationship where I don't make people realize exactly how 'bad' they are...maybe just how good they are. -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 4:41 PMI beat myself up many times over this, seems I affect people by just being in their prescence for any length of time. I often wondered and so many times felt sadness as to why People would come and go in my life so much that I just pretty much knew that something was seriously wrong with me. It has taken me some many, many years and people to recognize that being a mirror, a light for others to peer into themselves is the reason I am here in the physical this time around. Transformation/change is always good when one knows that nothing good is stagnant as the universe is all about change as every particle changes from moment to moment, and of course that is the reason we only live from moment to moment and bring much pain when doing otherwise. I came to know that people who came in my life came for the very love and light that I had to give, some stayed to enjoy more but most went on for they were not ready to face themselves, for see it is never about you that they leave because what they see in the mirror is not your face but their own.{ peace -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 1:53 AMI transform through my mere presence too. My goal now is to do it willingly, consciously, instead of subconsciously. I aim to understand the undercurrents of my actions so I can bring them into light... for myself, as well as others.
If I am to be a master manipulator in this lifetime, I want to stop living in the shadows and bring my intentions into full illumination. Power needs to be understood before it can achieve its potential. It craves a mirror.
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 10:41 AMfor me it literally seems like the theme to my life...i am constantly growing and wanting to grow and regenerate...constantly going through crazy transformations...usually in painful ways but not always...its trippy how we chose to make things so painful in our lives just so we make sure it seeps into our soul and we remember what it is we need to know! its like the harder we make things for ourselves and the more pain we have the more intense and deep our transformation will be...yet when thats done it just starts over again with something else...its sort of bitter sweet in a sense
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 11:02 AMi am sun aries, rising scorpio, virgo moon, mars capricorn and venus in pisces. i seem to completely attract people who normally avoid me like a plague for god knows whatever reasons but somehow i'm the first person they run to when they are down in the dump. i feel used but still, i never turned anyone away. so yes, i'm the 'janitor' - clean them up, get them back on their feet and then off they go never to be seen again. not all of course.. there are some who have been great friends and if that is the sort of pattern you are referring to that is in your life, then, yes.. - that is part of "transformation".. -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 11:06 AMIt doesn't have to be that way. If you want to stop attracting people who crave only a taste of your transformational abilities, then stop attracting them.
The question is are YOU ready for people to stick around? -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 11:18 AMaha.. the scorpio rising rear its head.. err...erm.. yes.. good question. :-)
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 12:13 PMyour virgo moon seems to be the issue here actually you may want to look at it more closely and the aspects that are to it as well -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 12:18 PMi must say i am not very well-verse with astrology. my girlfriend just did my birthchart and i lifted the sun, moon, rising, venus etc from the chart she email me. been trying to find out but all seem contradicting and i am well and truly confused. i just checked my virgo moon and allegedly i'm critical and a perfectionist. surely if i am, i'd have nothing to do with these riff-raff, full of flaws, damaged, sundries people..? no?
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 12:21 PMwhts... i apologise i sound confrontational and blimey! i just read what i typed and my spelling and grammar is absolutely atrocious. sorry.. english is not my first language.. -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 1:04 PM"surely if i am, i'd have nothing to do with these riff-raff, full of flaws, damaged, sundries people..?"
LOL... if that's your opinion of the people who come into your life whom you develop affection for, then perhaps it's a clue that *maybe* you do have a bit of the critic in you. ;)
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:08 PMactually expectations will be the death of any relationship...when you have expectations about something and then they are not met you are let down...but if you going into something open minded and go with the flow and have no expectations of things you can not be disappointed because you did not EXPECT anything...but when and if something good did come of it....you still have to keep in mind that as soon as you put expectations on something you have created a thought that will at some point be disappointed.
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:06 PMYES you sooo are a virgo moon hee hee...virgos are worry warts and therefore you apologized and you are very analytical and a profectionist...you apologized for your grammar and spelling lol....but anyway no worries its all good
SMILE!
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Thu, June 5, 2008 - 9:18 AMtransformation.. a perfect example of scorpio's tendancy to transform himself just walked in the front door here..thats me. aries sun/scorpio moon/scorpio rising...there is no sign that is more inclined to transform him/her self than an aries native with a scorpio moon.. much of that emphasis on transformation of the mind and body comes from the aries passion, creativity and unmatched confidence in oneself with the added potency of a scorpios inner need for control and the way he/she constantly keeps the best grip on any situation obtaining every possible advantage.. transformation usually occurs mostly in scorpio moon people reason bieng their emotions are the primary trigger for this..but signs of needed or wanted transformation will surface on a scorpio asc.. that individual will usually give in to that proposed change no matter what his/her sun sign may be because scorpio asc somewhat dominates the impressions of any sun. -
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Sat, June 7, 2008 - 1:08 PMTransformative relationships for me have been myself learning more about myself in relationships and what I want out of them. As for the ladies I have been in relationships with, I seem to be with them at times in their life which is a turning point in their world and their life is transformed drastically. I am always instrumental in this. All the times this has happen have been productive and good for them. -
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Sat, June 7, 2008 - 1:44 PMknow what they say about transformers?..............................."more than meets the eye" -
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Sun, June 8, 2008 - 1:29 AMendeavoring to transform ourselves through relationships (rather than our partners) much more effective and gratifying. if you believe that they need fixing, let that be their concern (or someone else's) --feeling the desire to change someone is the antithesis of loving them.
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Mon, June 23, 2008 - 5:32 PMI've transformed the men I've been with, friends I've made and companies where I've worked. As a matter of fact my strong point is to come into departments that are in complete disarray and transform them. As a manager I've had people who reported to me tell me that I completely transformed them at work so that they achieved more and had an easier time after they worked for me.
After I read about the transformation propensity in Scorpio Rising, I became more convinced than ever that my birth time was right and I was 0 00 Scorpio Rising and not Libra Rising which produces a completely different reading. I'm Libra Sun and with Scorpio Rising it makes complete sense with all the aspects of my life. So for me it made complete sense.