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How many other young girls do you think he's drugged and raped before and since the 14-year old he's in so much trouble for now? 500? 63?
I read the victim's statement and I've seen the photo of her (so damn funny--posed next to the word "desired" in a Polanski-propaganda flick poster) but I still think the fact is the man raped her and boogied before his sentence was sealed and thus he deserves this ruckus. The funny thing is that Polanski is probably disgusted by her now (though he'd probably happily do any children or grandchildren she has available) and that the arrogant mofo doesn't seem to be sorry for the deed in the least. And that the victim is posed next to that fool's documentary biopic poster. What the hell is wrong with her? She wants to forget the whole rape thing, huh? Yeah, right. It's her claim to fame I guess. Sick world.
Isn't it a hoot to see Woody Allen offering up his opinion? Holy shit! Yuck. What a slime bag.
I say all of those Hollywood folks should leave their budding adolescent daughters alone with Polanski and his supply of date-rape-friendly drugs for a couple hours and get back to us later. Debra Winger will rot in hell for her statement in his support.
The most sickening of all is the Entertainment Channel's nonstop question of "Do you think Roman Polanski should be punished for having sex with a 14-year old?" ASSHOLES! HE DIDN'T HAVE SEX WITH HER...HE FED HER A QUAALUDE AND THEN HE ***RAPED*** HER. "HAVING SEX" SUGGESTS CONSENT. THE GIRL DID NOT CONSENT. SHE WAS **DRUGGED AND RAPED***.
Here's another question: Do you think Roman jacked off to the pictures later? Shared them with his equally pervo child-molesting friend Jack Nicholson? Did he even have film in the camera?
WOODY ALLEN!!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA!
No sugarcoating here, fuckers. ROMAN POLANSKI IS A CHILD-MOLESTING ASSHOLE WHO ***DRUGGED AND RAPED*** A 14-YEAR OLD GIRL. I'd bet it wasn't the first, or even the 25th and that there's been many since.
SO WHAT'S THE POINT? MONEY TALKS? Pay the victims off if they remember and are brave enough to tell their guardians when the drugs wear off?
And for what it's worth: Polanksi's movies suck ass and would whether they were made in Hollywood or made in his dream girl's Barbie mansion. He's a hack and he wants to fuck YOUR daughter next.. Now shut up and go rent one of his movies as a show of support for his sexual proclivities. Your favorite stars think you should.
I read the victim's statement and I've seen the photo of her (so damn funny--posed next to the word "desired" in a Polanski-propaganda flick poster) but I still think the fact is the man raped her and boogied before his sentence was sealed and thus he deserves this ruckus. The funny thing is that Polanski is probably disgusted by her now (though he'd probably happily do any children or grandchildren she has available) and that the arrogant mofo doesn't seem to be sorry for the deed in the least. And that the victim is posed next to that fool's documentary biopic poster. What the hell is wrong with her? She wants to forget the whole rape thing, huh? Yeah, right. It's her claim to fame I guess. Sick world.
Isn't it a hoot to see Woody Allen offering up his opinion? Holy shit! Yuck. What a slime bag.
I say all of those Hollywood folks should leave their budding adolescent daughters alone with Polanski and his supply of date-rape-friendly drugs for a couple hours and get back to us later. Debra Winger will rot in hell for her statement in his support.
The most sickening of all is the Entertainment Channel's nonstop question of "Do you think Roman Polanski should be punished for having sex with a 14-year old?" ASSHOLES! HE DIDN'T HAVE SEX WITH HER...HE FED HER A QUAALUDE AND THEN HE ***RAPED*** HER. "HAVING SEX" SUGGESTS CONSENT. THE GIRL DID NOT CONSENT. SHE WAS **DRUGGED AND RAPED***.
Here's another question: Do you think Roman jacked off to the pictures later? Shared them with his equally pervo child-molesting friend Jack Nicholson? Did he even have film in the camera?
WOODY ALLEN!!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA!
No sugarcoating here, fuckers. ROMAN POLANSKI IS A CHILD-MOLESTING ASSHOLE WHO ***DRUGGED AND RAPED*** A 14-YEAR OLD GIRL. I'd bet it wasn't the first, or even the 25th and that there's been many since.
SO WHAT'S THE POINT? MONEY TALKS? Pay the victims off if they remember and are brave enough to tell their guardians when the drugs wear off?
And for what it's worth: Polanksi's movies suck ass and would whether they were made in Hollywood or made in his dream girl's Barbie mansion. He's a hack and he wants to fuck YOUR daughter next.. Now shut up and go rent one of his movies as a show of support for his sexual proclivities. Your favorite stars think you should.
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Re: Roman Polanski
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 12:25 AM<SO WHAT'S THE POINT? MONEY TALKS? Pay the victims off if they remember and are brave enough to tell their guardians when the drugs wear off? >
Amen, sister. Testify!! Testify!! God come through the roof and smite that pervert with a lighting bolt up the rectum.
Do you want to know how I know there is no god? It's because Woody Allen is still alive after all the years I've been praying for him to be run over by a garbage truck.
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Re: Roman Polanski
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 8:21 AM90 percent of what I have heard is the right accusing the left of supporting Polanski. I havent heard anyone support him. The dude sodomized a child what is there to defend? This is turning into one of those siituations where the right is attempting to take the moral high ground as if it were San Juan Hill. I got news for you the HIgh Ground on this aint all that high everyone but guys like Polanski know that its wrong to rape a child.
Lets be honest here Polanski wasnt arrested because of an outstanding warrant. Polanski is in custody because his lawyers all but taunted federal prosecuters in the recent movia about him.
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Re: Roman Polanski
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 11:11 AMwww.salon.com/mwt/broadsh.../index.html#
"Reminder: Roman Polanski raped a child
Roman Polanski raped a child. Let's just start right there, because that's the detail that tends to get neglected when we start discussing whether it was fair for the bail-jumping director to be arrested at age 76, after 32 years in "exile" (which in this case means owning multiple homes in Europe, continuing to work as a director, marrying and fathering two children, even winning an Oscar, but never -- poor baby -- being able to return to the U.S.). Let's keep in mind that Roman Polanski gave a 13-year-old girl a Quaalude and champagne, then raped her, before we start discussing whether the victim looked older than her 13 years, or that she now says she'd rather not see him prosecuted because she can't stand the media attention. Before we discuss how awesome his movies are or what the now-deceased judge did wrong at his trial, let's take a moment to recall that according to the victim's grand jury testimony, Roman Polanski instructed her to get into a jacuzzi naked, refused to take her home when she begged to go, began kissing her even though she said no and asked him to stop; performed cunnilingus on her as she said no and asked him to stop; put his penis in her vagina as she said no and asked him to stop; asked if he could penetrate her anally, to which she replied, "No," then went ahead and did it anyway, until he had an orgasm....."
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Re: Roman Polanski
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 11:27 AM<Lets be honest here Polanski wasnt arrested because of an outstanding warrant. Polanski is in custody because his lawyers all but taunted federal prosecuters in the recent movia about him. >
Let's be honest here, the right have been losing ground over the wars and over health care for the last several months. It has gotten to the point now where, as one commentator has put it, Obama has moved to the right and the right has moved into a mental institution." With the utter failure of the Tea Bag protests and with people leaving the Evangelical Christianoid Churches, the right is losing more and more members. So they need something big and nasty to organize the true believers around before the true believers start wandering to the winning side.
So federal prosecutors leaned on Switzerland to get Polanski. After a big and dramatic court battle, Switzerland is going to let him go, and it will all be the left's fault. Meanwhile Obama will make brownie points with the Fundies by making a big show out of Polanski.
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Re: Roman Polanski
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 8:40 PMAmen. Baliff, whack his pee-pee. -
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REMEMBER CHAPPAQUIDDICK!
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 8:53 PMThe world has gone mad.
ROMAN POLANSKI DRUGGED AND RAPED A 14-YEAR OLD!!!!
So NO. NO. NO. No, he should *NOT* be allowed to return to the United States and he should not be given a ticker-tape parade.
Good Lord.
Next we'll be worshipping guys like Ted Kennedy-- who killed Mary Jo Kopechne in a drunk driving accident, saved himself and hauled ass home--and enjoyed joking about it at parties in later years. Oh shit...wait a minute. Too late.
CELEBRITIES ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. No. They're in bed with it.
Pardon Polanski? HA! The very idea. World gone mad!
No matter. God and Satan will take turns with him one day soon. But give them a few years to play with Teddy first. -
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Two birds, one stone.
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 10:05 PMYou're still upset zat he left you for Drew Barrymore back in '87, aren't you?
Hee! snarfle. kak.
Okay, veddy soggy Crabby Ann. Please donut shoot me again! Sick joke I nose, but sadly I imagine it would ring true to more zen one ex-wannabe child stars. Once you hit puberty, you're outta ze hot tub.
I say fry ze muzzlefuxxxer's 'nads und force feed 'em to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. No! Better yeti, shear Mahmoud from ze forehead down, whiten heez teeth, bleach heez butt ox, put him in ze leetle pink frock und send 'em special delivery to good ol' Roman. Ze match made in Hollywood!
Maybe Michael Jackson's Neverland could be turned into ze celebrity pedophile prison und ze monies made from ze resulting reality TV show could goose toweirds rehabilitating the American Justice System. I tinkle this idea eez every bit as sane as offering clemency to ze DATE-RAPE DRUG DOSING ASS-RAPING CHILD MOLESTER!
Und zem fuckos wot were on ze witch hunt when Clinton consensually stiffed ze skank end of a cigar into a more-than-willing of-age intern (und most probably with heez wife's happy blessing to boot)?
WHERE ZE FUXXX ARE ZE LEWDWINSKIES UND ZE TEABUGGERERS WHEN AMERICAN'T NEEDS 'EM?
Boooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Thu, October 1, 2009 - 9:28 AM<Maybe Michael Jackson's Neverland could be turned into ze celebrity pedophile prison und ze monies made from ze resulting reality TV show could goose toweirds rehabilitating the American Justice System.>
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Thu, October 1, 2009 - 9:38 AMThe Neverland prison could be part of a network that could include making Graceland into a bloated drug addict theme park. Area 51 could become a mecca for delusional paranoids. In a few decades Ken Burns would do a series called "America's Second Best Idea." -
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Thu, October 1, 2009 - 7:16 PMwww.theglobeandmail.com/news/o...307599/
"Perhaps they also ought to read a revealing interview that Mr. Polanski gave to Martin Amis in 1979. It was unearthed this week by the Telegraph's Michael Deacon. “If I had killed somebody, it wouldn't have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But … f—ing, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to f— young girls. Juries want to f— young girls. Everyone wants to f— young girls!”
In other words, she is not the victim. He is."
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Sat, October 3, 2009 - 6:04 PMI'm stunned at the celeb-brigade no less than crusading on this douchebag's behalf. -
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Sat, October 3, 2009 - 6:45 PMIt seems that all the directors rallying around the rapist has influnced actors to tow the line. It may in part be explained by job security. -
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 7:46 AMI think keeping quiet or taking no position would leave you just fine. Though I guess if the producer comes to you as a "buddy ol' pal" and asks you to sign the petition, you might be on the spot enough to put your entire career on the line and back a child rapist who not only ran from the law, but as much as admitted his own guilt by agreeing to pay her off, and then never did so.
Even Michael Jackson went to court. Fuck Polanski in his stupid, chickenshit, arrogant ass. Better yet, put him in a cell next to Jeffery Jones, and let a fellow celebrity pedophile do it.
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 11:01 AM<Even Michael Jackson went to court. Fuck Polanski in his stupid, chickenshit, arrogant ass. Better yet, put him in a cell next to Jeffery Jones, and let a fellow celebrity pedophile do it.>
Jackson went to court the second time when his legal team decided that there was no way he would be doing any time. The first time, the victim and his family accepted a structured settlement. The second time, the judge would not let the prosecution call any witnesses due to a clause in the settlement. Both ways, it was another example of a billionaire rapist shitting on our legal system. -
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 11:16 AMThere are some actors who take a stand against Polanski, www.nationalledger.com/ledger....shtml#
Kirstie Alley posted this on Twitter the other day. There is also a group in Hollywood that advocates on behalf of child actors who have dennounced Polanski and his supporters. edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWB...t.backlash/
Alley posted messages on her Twitter page, saying: "JUST FOR THE RECORD... RAPE IS RAPE...this is one HOLLYWOOD STAR who does not CELEBRATE or DEFEND Roman Polanski... his ART did not RAPE her." Another message said: "THERE is NO SUCH THING AS CONSENSUAL SEX with a 13 year old girl..it is RAPE and Polanski is a Coward. HE made 2 bad choices RAPE and FLEE." -
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 9:56 AMwww.huffingtonpost.com/jennif...88.html
"The sad fact is that many people in Hollywood probably think that what Polanski did is reprehensible, but lack the real courage - putting your livelihood and status on the line - to go against Harvey Weinstein, Martin Scorsese and Woody Allen, so they just keep their mouths shut and hope the story dies soon. Any actor, agent, director, makeup artist or craft services person who spoke out to disagree with the kingmakers would instantly be dead to "the industry" and everyone knows it. Where is your moral outrage and big voice now Hollywood?"
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 10:56 AM<It seems that all the directors rallying around the rapist has influnced actors to tow the line. It may in part be explained by job security.>
It could also be fear that their special privileges would be the next to go. This has become a matter of class identification. -
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Re: Two birds, one stone.
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 6:28 PMIt seems people are making more of it being hollywood than hollywood is. Only 36 names associated with hollywood appear on the infamous petition. Hardly the creme de le creme of the place. There's a good article on it, if I can relocate it I will post it. Funny enough, most signatories are french, some spanish, and most who do make films that are on the list are not hollywood exclusive. No Steven Spielbergs, Michael Bay's or JJ Abrams, et al. Media shitstorm over a small wave of apparently pro-pedo producers. -
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 7:32 PMThe very idea that anyone would stand up for this man is appalling. Martin Scorsese is a shitbird. Of course, didn't he rape 13-year old Sophia Coppola with the blessings and at the insistence of her father? Oh, they laughed and laughed at that one for YEARS over good Scotch about how she "bled like a little piggy," didn't they? Sure. I mean, EVERYONE wants to fuck unwilling young girls! Hoo-Haw! Woody Allen is in HEAVEN over this one. He's been giving the hairy eyeball to little Violet Garner for the past two years! I can't believe R. Crumb hasn't gotten in on the action yet.
Jesus. Roman Polanski not only raped a child both vaginally and anally but also drugged her. WHAT THE FUCK ABOUT THAT DOES NOT COMPUTE WITH THESE IDIOTS???? Drugged. Raped. Vaginally AND Anally.
Come on. Sure, maybe lots of men would like to fuck young girls but would they do it by drugging and force?
I can imagine that for most men it would take a huge amount of self-control, impeccable standards, and a Herculean effort of will to say "no" to a willing Lolita, but what does it take to DRUG AND VAGINALLY/ANALLY RAPE A GIRL WHO IS CLEARLY SAYING "NO"? Nothing but a fucked-up sense of entitlement and a fat wallet.
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 8:54 PM>I can imagine that for most men it would take a huge amount of self-control, impeccable standards, and a Herculean effort of will to say "no" to a willing Lolita,<
Isn't that in itself sad~? Isn't it best to be attracted to people your own age~? This is clearly a pedophile culture if an attraction to the fully mature form is less common and not even entirely expected compared to an attraction to the underage.
>but what does it take to DRUG AND VAGINALLY/ANALLY RAPE A GIRL WHO IS CLEARLY SAYING "NO"?<
It takes a rapist. There are too many of those. Some of them have fat wallets, some don't. I hate them all. If they're all going to hell, I'd like to be the Devil. -
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Wed, October 14, 2009 - 3:29 PMBy Calvin Trillin:
A youthful error? Yes, perhaps.
But he's been punished for this lapse--
For decades exiled from LA
He knows, as he wakes up each day,
He'll miss the movers and the shakers.
He'll never get to see the Lakers.
For just one old and small mischance,
He has to live in Paris, France.
He's suffered slurs and other stuff.
Has he not suffered quite enough?
How can these people get so riled?
He only raped a single child.
Why make him into some Darth Vader
For sodomizing one eighth grader?
This man is brilliant, that's for sure--
Authentically, a film auteur.
He gets awards that are his due.
He knows important people, too--
Important people just like us.
And we know how to make a fuss.
Celebrities would just be fools
To play by little people's rules.
So Roman's banner we unfurl.
He only raped one little girl.
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Wed, October 14, 2009 - 11:17 PMWell then, here's the opposing view.
Horrible as it is it's a 30 year old crime for which the victim has forgiven him and even made comments about not wanting to pursue it further. There was an out of court civil settlement on the issue and the reason for his fleeing was that his plea bargain was unceremoniously tagged out from under his feet.
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:53 AM<Well then, here's the opposing view. >
Grim,
How many billionaires can we afford to allow to mock our laws? From George W. Bush and his involvement with Enron to Michael Jackson dancing on top of a car during his trial, where do we draw the line? When do we say, enough is enough? It is hard enough to maintain an equal standard of justice in this Protestant Work Ethic ridden nation in the first place. Look at Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick. The bastard left a woman to drown and continued on as one of America's ruling elite. Look at Michael Jackson, who was much richer than Polanski, he was responsible for two rapes. One he bought off, and the other he walked away from due to a clause in the settlement in the first rape.
Sorry, Grim, we as a society cannot afford to continue to allow our billionaires carte blanche. If there is no single standard of justice there is no standard of justice at all. So I hope that they hound that sick fuck Polanski to the ground. I don't care if he is 105 years old and senile, we need to toss him in stir. If he dies of old age his corpse needs to be hung by the heels so the dogs can rend it. One nation, one people, one law. -
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 12:07 PMNor can we allow justice to be perverted by revenge or glory seeking. -
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 12:31 PMSince we have a high profile prosecutor and high profile rapist involved there may indeed by other motives, but now that Polanski is in jail what do you propose be done with him? He should not be able to set the terms for legal consequences of his actions. Had he not left the country years ago he likely would be out on parole by this time. Maybe just the fact that he is no longer living in luxury will puncture his arrogance and cut him down to size. I admit a feeling of shadenfreude just from the fact they finally brought him in. -
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 2:09 PM<Since we have a high profile prosecutor and high profile rapist involved there may indeed by other motives, but now that Polanski is in jail what do you propose be done with him? He should not be able to set the terms for legal consequences of his actions. Had he not left the country years ago he likely would be out on parole by this time. Maybe just the fact that he is no longer living in luxury will puncture his arrogance and cut him down to size. I admit a feeling of shadenfreude just from the fact they finally brought him in.>
I feel sorry for all the other victims of childhood molestation and rape who will never get to see their abusers in jail. Jordan Chandler is one who easily comes to mind.
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 2:07 PM<Nor can we allow justice to be perverted by revenge or glory seeking.>
The bastard has been mooning the American people for the last twenty years. I think a little revenge is in order here. As far as glory seeking is concerned, the son of a bitch who brought in Polanski has earned all the glory we can give him.
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:38 PM"Nor can we allow justice to be perverted by revenge or glory seeking."
Since when does accountability equate to image? He broke the law, we should let him get away with it so we don't look lame? Dude that's the most BS argument I have EVER heard. And I'm including chat's with Cliff in that category. The law is about itself, and accountability. If it still says he owes, he owes, and no one can say otherwise, nor should any prosecutor or judge attempting to enforce that have absurdist accusations directed at them for doing their damned jobs, as written. The *only* way he gets off is if the LAW says he does. That's justice, which is why justice is codified in laws, not popular opinion, or cynical malignments of judicial process. When the law says he can go, he can go. Not a minute before. Anything else is perversion by lassitude.
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:32 PM"Horrible as it is it's a 30 year old crime for which the victim has forgiven him and even made comments about not wanting to pursue it further."
The court convicted, its no longer her call. She has no say in it at this point. The best she can do is testify at whatever sentencing hearing he gets for fleeing the jurisdiction.
"There was an out of court civil settlement on the issue and the reason for his fleeing was that his plea bargain was unceremoniously tagged out from under his feet."
A settlement he never paid on, by the way. Again, none of this is a legal basis to let him off. The sole legal basis (in my layman's view) is statute of limitations (if any) on his flight. Since he was convicted, I don't believe he gets that as if he had never been to court, or such would make sense anyway. He fled his sentence, unless there's a statute on that, he's just as fucked as when he fled.
"It seems pointless and crass to pursue this case given these circumstances. "
So, fuck the fact the law says he has a debt to pay? Let's just make nice? Fuck that shit. Castrate him and we'll call it even. Til then, he owes time. -
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Fri, October 30, 2009 - 11:23 AMthe day I turned 18 I knew that anyone under 18 was off limits,,,fortunately I found fun in college and how to have a personality around women,,,
for a 40 something man to have to get a underage girl drunk and drugged is really pathetic,,,if he was a worker at some gas station he would be thrown in jail,,,no matter how artistically he was,,,
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Re: One rapist, one hundred stones.
Fri, October 30, 2009 - 1:31 PMSome celebrities think that laws or consepts like age of consent only apply to "the little people." If the hypothetical worker at a gas station that Sol mentioned were to begin a relationship with his wife's adopted daughter (when she was a minor) and he was in his 50s or 60s the consequences would be far different if he were a celebrated director who had done just that to Mia Farrow and her daughter. In that situation Woody Allen actually managed to convince some people that Farrrow was the crazy one because she became outraged at what he did. Celebrities like those in Hollywood seem to act like the royalty of other countries in their arrogance.
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Re: Roman Polanski
Sat, November 28, 2009 - 5:51 AMnews.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8382232.stm
You can see his smug smirking child-sodomizing mug there and an article about how he's being put under what is called "house arrest" where he will be taken to his luxurious, well-maintained chalet in the ski resort Gstaad in the Swiss Alps.
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Sat, November 28, 2009 - 2:36 PM<$4.5 million bail. No prob. Money does talk! >
Money talks and that sack of shit walks. I'm almost glad to see that the legal system is just as fucked up in Europe.
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