I can understand that Georgiane. :)

But if the children have choosed to live here instead if Finland, Sweden can't be that awful place to live in, right?

(and belive me, it isn't)

As i said in the beginning, a Sweden without any finns, would't be Sweden.

First of all, I am not arguing about anything. I am only discussing issues. I am not saying my observations apply to every single Finnish person in Sweden. I am not saying my statements reflect the view of all the Finns in Finland. It seems that increasingly, Christer, you have gotten way too emotional for me. You are also taking this way too personal. So, much, so that you are asking me all these crazy things like, Have you thought of that? or, saying things like, How many Finns in Sweden to you know? etc. Uhm, I am not making things up. I am not lying. I give you references when it is necessary. However, if I am mention something I heard a few months ago, it is difficult to find the old story. Anyway, I don't think that is a way to discuss anything. That type of discussing is reminiscent of the 4th grade. Actually, creating a new thread and using my name so many times in the other ones where you systematically dismiss everything I say, well, it is like your flaming me. Especially, when you people now take the example of my Uncle in law and make a mockery of it. I mean, you asked if i talked to any Finns in Sweden and when i give you and example suddenly you start talking crap about him. Plus, you made up a lot of things about him which i never said. You take what I say and you add things to it. I read what you say and think ok, that's what he thinks. Then I talk about something else. I never slam what you say or deny there is any truth to it, nor do i demand that you give me every single resource for your statements.
So, about this special relationship you told about before between Finland and Sweden the one you said nobody outside of Scandinavia would understand... Well, they would understand it if you told them about it.That sounds highly pejorative to me. In fact, many of your statements come of as extremely pejorative. I think people outside of Scandinavia can understand the relationship. For instance, Americans, you can liken the relationship to the white folks of early America who were landed and have African slaves. So, that whole situation of slavery. The white land owners have a much different perspective and idea of the relationship they had with their slaves. On the other hand the slaves and their descendants have a very different view on the whole situation. Now, I am not saying they are identical situations. I am saying that There are two different views of the same phenomena; hear both and see what you think.
I presented a very valid view of the relationship Finland has with Sweden. Of course of course of course, duh duh duh. we could go on and on ad naseum through the whole history of Finland. However, we aren't talking about Russian history, we aren't talking about Germans in Finland. We were only talking about Swedish history with Finland and it was oppressive. Seemingly, you can't understand why there would be some resentments about this, maybe it is because you are Swedish. I am writing from the perspective of a person who lives in the country which was invaded, then forced to serve a foreign crown, their language was subdued, they were forced to learn in Swedish, they were looked at as common second class simple inferior people. Well, it does have an effect on the psyche of the people. I suppose all diplomacy aside, Sweden and Russia are the enemy. Now, this just means they were the historical enemy, not that Finland is putting up a wall around itself.
I am serious about bring this up because one cannot discount it. Of course, relations between the two countries are different now. It seems as if I don't present my whole body of knowledge on this subject you are inevidable going to pick one tiny point out and ask me if I thought about it. Let me tell you that yes I did think about it. I skim your posts and then think about some of what you said and then go back over several lectures and then some anthropological and sociological studies and history books and several sentiments i have heard from different finns and observations i have made of swedish-finns and finns etc. and then i try to represent an honest educated thoughtful post. Now, I don't read your entire post because it is so negatively and hostilely tainted that I don't want to get those bad vibes into my head.
I am not here to convince anybody to my way of thinking or to the facts I have tried to present. When I have written things it is a mix of what I think (so it may be wrapped in some way) and what I have learned (which may be mostly remembered correctly). So, the opinions may be slightly subjective and the learned bits are presented neutrally. But, holy crap, you are really trying to make me pick apart every single thing I write. I just don't have time for that crap. This is not fun for me. I am not into coming online to see this massive barrage of well why did you say this did you think of that you can't be serious about this why don't you mention that. That is ridiculous. I'd rather go to another site and play scrabulous. So, dude, I don't think I am going to put up too much longer with this because this is bull. Oh and my previous post was directed at what penny said. So, obviously, I have a deeper understanding of the reasons why a Finn who lives in Sweden would want to stay there; relationships, love, family, children, property, friends, they've gotten used to it, they really love it, all in all it's a pretty damn good place to live. Anyway, I love Sweden to and still plan on moving there for some time. Please, read what I write and not what I don't write. Holy christ, i never ever ever said sweden was a bad place to live.