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      <title>benefits of simplicity as foundation in practice</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Based on my experiences with various arts ( mostly some wing chun many years ago, Taiji, Yiquan, various methods of qigong and bagua ) and phases of pratice methods I've used, the philosphical foundation of yiquan as shared by my current teacher ( Fong Ha ) &amp;amp; my interpretations of other Yiquan luminaries is wonderfully beneficial in many ways.
&lt;br/&gt; The emphasis on meditational expansion of grounded, embodied equilibrium, awareness, essence &amp;amp; naturallness through standing meditation / qigong &amp;amp; externally simple or short movement flows deeply explored can be so rewarding.  I remember overhearing nonpractitioners commenting on how weird a class of people practicing yiquan looked just moving slowly &amp;amp; externally simply / not flashy.  Yet if they were willing to open their mind &amp;amp; experience through mindful practice the deeep feelings of integrated equilibrium, peace, physical, emotional, energetic &amp;amp; spiritual sensitivity, harmony &amp;amp; relaxed vitality that is nurtured through these practices they too would probably not be worried about how silly they may look practicing. As Fong says sometimes, it's not how we look but how we feel &amp;amp; our embodied equilibrium that matters most. These seemingly simple and for some perhaps boring ways of practicing such as standing for a half hour, hour or longer, one movement repeatedly practiced very slowly for continual refining of awareness and movement &amp;amp; embodying of in the moment presence, etc seem so fullfilling to me. 
&lt;br/&gt; A sincere thank you to the heartfully dedicated practitioners, teachers &amp;amp; founder(s) of arts like Yiquan who followed their own truth, experience, feeling &amp;amp; vision, even through misunderstanding &amp;amp; ridicule from belligerent, less creatively spirited practitioners of other arts. It is people like these independent souls who keep the essence &amp;amp; spirit of wonder, love &amp;amp; growth through exploration alive and vigorous. 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:29:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Chen Stylist seeks freestyle pushands group Oakland/Berkeley/EastBay</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hey everyone. I am a Chen stylist. I practice the Chen style practical method of Hong Junsheng (Yilu) as taught by Chen Zhonghua (Jinan/Edmonton, Canada/Shandong), and the Chen style Hunyuan 24 and Qigong of Feng Zhiqiang as taught by Courtney Blackburn (Santa Cruz). I am looking for an informal group of Chen taiji, Yiquan, and/or Xingyi (or other styles) players to play open/freestyle push hands in a neutral location. I am interested in practical and mutually beneficial martial arts practice and training, and i am not afraid to play real push hands. I am not interested in waving my arms around  with a partner in the park. I would like to meet somewhere in Oakland, Berkeley, or in the East Bay, or in SF if that's where its going on. If there is a group, please let me know the time and place, or if you are interested in forming one, please send me a message or reply to this post and we can arrange a time and location. i would love to be outdoors trading and learning from one another in a constructive and martial arts-oriented taiji and Internal Arts push hands group. Sunday mornings/afternoons from about 10 or 11 in the Rockridge area would be good for me. thank you and all the best in your respective practices.
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      <title>Tai Chi Chuan is Self Defense</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Enclosed is a tape of a demonstration in Athens, Greece.  Notice the blending, sensititivity and striking from the entirety of the body.  This all comes from the push hands.  People today question compliance.  This usually happens when you have been teaching a student for a long period of time.  The test is when you can apply the technique on individuals that you have met for the first time.  As such, an adept will take control immediately to counter the fact that the "new" opponent will not be in compliance.  
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&lt;br/&gt;Tai Chi for self defence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvNxsUVhE7c
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&lt;br/&gt;Sincerely, Joseph T. Oliva Arriola&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:25:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Introduce yourselves. Your experience, interests, location, etc</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hi all. So share some about yourselves, your experience in related arts and what kind of exchange would you like to share? 
&lt;br/&gt;Would you prefer to trade with people from a particular area or city? One on one or multiple person practices?
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&lt;br/&gt;Ill start, then. My main practice at this time is Yi Quan, Tai Chi &amp;amp; Wuji Qigong. I began practicing meditation and general martial arts conditioning in 1988. In 1989, I began studying / practicing Chinese Martial Arts with a teacher in Eugene, Oregon. Tai-Chi, Qigong &amp;amp; Wing Chun. Primarily Tai Chi &amp;amp; Qigong. Along the way Ive practiced some Ba Gua Zhang, Aikido &amp;amp; a little Hsing Yi. Though my main practice has been and continues to be Yi Quan, Tai-Chi &amp;amp; Wuji Qigong. With a love of Ba Gua Zhang, though Ive only learned a bit from this system and havent been engaged in this style for a while. Since I moved to the SF Bay area a few years ago, Ive been supplementing my own practice through practicing Tai Chi, Yi Quan &amp;amp; Wuji Qigong with Fong Ha in North Berkeley. 
&lt;br/&gt;Id love to connect with a few people to share in Tai Chi, Yi Quan &amp;amp; Ba Gua Zhang partner practices with. I tend to prefer to pick an excercise and spend a while of focus with it, rather then skipping from one practice excercise to another every couple minutes. Allows more opportunity to experience deeper potentials of learning through it, in my feeling. Its been years since Ive engaged in any partner practices with others (thus part of the motivation for the creation of this tribe), so that aspects a bit rusty. Time to lubricate it again. Im open to practicing with people oriented to these and similar arts, as well as jujitsu, wing chun, submission. As long whoever Im practicing with and I feel harmonious in our approach and preferences for training together. 
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&lt;br/&gt;I live in the East Bay, El Cerrito. Ideally, at least at once a week would be great. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Aaron&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Practitioners in Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I'm looking for training partners in the Triangle area.  I practice a wide variety of styles, as I know many people do, so I'm not really looking for anything specific, I'm just looking for other dedicated people who can push me.  I'm looking for other martial artists who also believe that chi is more important than strength, but devote the same sort of dedication and enthusiasm, as well as commitment to train hard, that you tend to see in more physically oriented MMA fighters.  While another person to practice forms with is all well and good, I'm really looking for other martial artists to hold and strike focus pads with me, break things, push hands, grapple and spar with.  I can do my forms on my own.  I'm open to any level of experience, if you know more than me you can teach me, if I know more than you I can teach you, and in either case we will learn from eachother.  Look forward to hearing from any one out there.
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&lt;br/&gt;As to my training, I've done 10 years of Chuan Fa, in the Zi Ran Men tradition, a few years of Bagua, a few years of Chen Style, some external style striking and grappling training, about 8 years of Jujutsu, the 5 fists of  Hsing I, some Wing Chun, and whatever else I've picked up along the way.   &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Tempo &amp;amp; pace of practice. Slow or quicker movement tendencies for cultivation...</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Given the relativity of the terms, this may be curious to quantify. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Ive practiced with and observed many different practitioners and teachers with diverse pacing of their practice &amp;amp; movement. 
&lt;br/&gt;Some people who practice with what i feel to be rather faster movement have said they feel it helps keep their chi moving and not stagnate or become overly "cautious". 
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&lt;br/&gt;While some tend to often practice with a much slower pace of movement.
&lt;br/&gt; Likely i tend to fall more into this latter category at least relative to most of what I've seen others teach &amp;amp; practice. My own feeling is whatever floats ones own chi boat so to speak is likely what is good for us and others. 
&lt;br/&gt;Yet I remember someone commenting about a slower pace as being too "cautious", which seemed silly at the least to me. Then again i guess its all relative, as I had attended a couple classes of that person and his teacher out of curiosity about how people teach and practice, and to me the way they practiced seemed fast and jerky to the point of careless and coarse. And generally felt to be fueled in part by a nonstop chattering mind as they tend to talk nonstop throughout the whole session.
&lt;br/&gt; Rather than simply being, feeling and doing. 
&lt;br/&gt;If it was fine for them and they were happy enough to practice like that its none of my business as far as im concerned. Aside from choosing how i practice and who I continue to practice &amp;amp; learn with. 
&lt;br/&gt;I respect that some people enjoy that. And can appreciate a certain mental playfulness in that approach as well. Although I certainly feel playful, deeply nourished &amp;amp; sometimes move at a faster pace for a change of energy in my practice, minus  talking and constant speedy / rushing nature. 
&lt;br/&gt;Moving slowly is not simply about moving slowly for its own sake, but also ( can ) come naturally from a meditative quiet, feeling the relaxed yet alive state, really sinking and expanding simultaneously which is also facilited by focused standing post meditation. 
&lt;br/&gt;Even a tiny movement becomes more acutely felt from this place of deeply quiet embodiment. And the slowness once more obviously moving the body through various movements naturally emerges from a place of deep "ecstacy", as one of my teachers has often described it. Which feels like a very apt description to me. 
&lt;br/&gt;And the slower we can mindfully move in an alively embodied way, the more subtly and fully refined, coordinated and full of quality qi &amp;amp; awareness fills our being. At least this is my experience. 
&lt;br/&gt;Also in moving more slowly, the deeper energetic blockages, mind noise and impulsiveness can be more deeply attuned to &amp;amp; transformed. Whereas subtle awareness can be more readily drowned out in faster, coarser movement simply by being too fast to really feel &amp;amp; open with a quieter in the moment awareness that is not rushing to get anywhere. As we are already where we need to be in this moment. 
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&lt;br/&gt;While I enjoy sometimes playing with faster spontaneous movement, in addition to relatively slower spontaneous movement, the overall feeling of slower mindful movement tends to feel much richer, refined, coordinated, deep &amp;amp; subtley quiet / calm in terms of equilibrium to me. 
&lt;br/&gt;Feels to relate to the nutritive yin foundation that is the primary base or foundation in chinese medicine theory for our energy, from which activity is built from. The more we nourish and build this energy in a refined, quality way the more real energy is available for our living, awareness and wellbeing. Daily living for most of us in cities, with the many demands, time and enviornmental stressors tends to continually potentially drain the yin energy while keeping the mind overactiviated and the yang energy in the forefront. 
&lt;br/&gt;Of course how we choose to relate to all we experience is our choice. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Sometimes quick, alive movement is simply an expression of being in the moment too. Most of life is like this it seems. Fast, rushing to get to the next thing, the next movement, to do do do do .... While we can move quickly like a cat with a quiet mind, for cultivation practices moving even slower when done with a deeply expanding awareness can assist refining and nurturing quality, subtle &amp;amp; deeply rooted yet expansive energy, integration even more. 
&lt;br/&gt;Often a welcome balance to the pace of most modern life activity. 
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&lt;br/&gt;How do you gauge your comfort, equilibrium and increasing sensitivity to sublte energy, refined movement and embodiment? &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Hypothetical question...</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt; For everyone interested in sharing, a question for you.? 
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&lt;br/&gt; Openended of course, in the sense of understanding that feelings, preferences, wishes, choices... can change from moment to moment.
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&lt;br/&gt;So most of us have fairly healthy bodies, and are able to be physically active and move our bodies around in this physically expressing world. 
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&lt;br/&gt; How might you feel, respond and choose to continue to live, or not, physically, if for some reason you lost all physical mobility? 
&lt;br/&gt; Through a massive stroke, accident, disease, etc that were to cause total paralysis.
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&lt;br/&gt;This is something Ive thought about off and on through my life. How accustomed we can become to being physically active, mobile, expressive and sensing. 
&lt;br/&gt;Of course in standing &amp;amp; sitting meditation the body is used much less. Though even then, in standing at least there is an obvious feedback loop which is mutually supportive of consciousness, mind, intend, body, feelings, emotion... And in somewhat different ways in sitting or reclining meditation as well. 
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&lt;br/&gt; Certainly easier to spend more time focusing on being, less on doing, in such a situation. Provided we are somehow still able to have our basic health aspects such as shelter, food, water, excretory and bathing taken care of. 
&lt;br/&gt; At the same time, there is a reduction of the beneficial aspects of energetic, physical and chemical processes which can best occur through more overt physically expressing movement, expansion and contraction. 
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&lt;br/&gt; Ive known a few people who lost much of their physical function through accidents or illness. One who after years of depression, drug addiction and other frustrated emotions decided to go back to school, with fairly limited use of arms and no use of lower torso and limbs, and obtained a degree in a form of rec rehab. He now works in a hospital directing people in rehab excercises after surgeries and other medical situations. 
&lt;br/&gt; Others have chosen other ways of dealing, some including departing from this earth likely.
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&lt;br/&gt;Ultimately, often do not really know what would be done or choice made until the moment for such choices are present. 
&lt;br/&gt; Ive vacilitated on this myself, from making a pact if i were to become totally paralyzed to find a tall cliff to fly from or other options, as being that this is a world where physical expression and sensation is a core way of experiencing and expressing Ive felt like may as well exist somewhere else then if i am unable to use the basic "tools" and functions of this world. Can always expand my consciousness elsewhere where bodies are not needed, if the body is not more than less functional.
&lt;br/&gt; Other times staying around, doing whatever i can until biologically passing seems fine too. But would want to be released if no use is present, and am just taking resources, money, time and energy from this world with no way of expressing and giving back. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Anyway - your feelings, thoughts, ideas...for yourselves?&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Why do you practice internal arts?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt; During a conversation i was having with a fellow yiquan, tai chi classmate we talked about our motivations and inspirations for our practice. 
&lt;br/&gt; And about the aspects of martial arts training relative to tai chi, yiquan, qigong training / practice. 
&lt;br/&gt; One aspects &amp;amp; perspective which we apparently shared was that we both had prior training in more directly martial arts. Myself, i started with learning from two friends who were naturally talented and street fighters in a sense. The first supposedly taught me basics of ninjitsu. Though i question the authenticity of that specific authenticity claim now, the physical and basic meditational aspects were a valuable catalyst in my training. After starting to learn from this person tim), about 7 months later  i  moved to another state temporarily ( a little over 6 months). 
&lt;br/&gt;During which time i continued practicing on my own diligently, and creatively expounding on it. Lots and lots of basic physical practice, combined with meditating and my young body responded quite nicely. 
&lt;br/&gt;Here in met bruce gomes, who was self taught. What he offered was one example of the power of mind and intention over technique.  He had a definite presence and natural ability that he used to use sometimes against bullies with formal martial arts training and drug dealers that used their kids to sell drugs. 
&lt;br/&gt; Long story shorter, after moving back to oregon i continued my own training which was largely foundational horse stance training, various kicking techniques, stealth walking, etc and meditation. Then in 89 while still in high school in Oregon, i met my first formal teacher David Leung, and began training in Tai Chi, qigong and Wing Chun with him. For about two or three years i practiced wing chun in class and on my own,  in addition to tai chi, qigong, basic yiquan and a little bagua zhang. 
&lt;br/&gt; With the nature of wing chun, in these classes there was always lots and lots of partner practice. Chi sao / sticky hands and other drills. Tai chi classes on the other hand were usually just individual practice / cultivation oriented. 
&lt;br/&gt; Then gradually i found myself less interested in wing chun, and concentrated soley on the neigong arts. Which has remained my primary and pretty much only focus in these related arts to this day. 
&lt;br/&gt;  After training with my teacher for a few years in oregon, i continued to practice mostly on my own, occasionally going back to study at his school for short periods of time. But primarily doing standing meditation and  drilling one or a few series of tai chi, bagua or yiquan movements over and over very slowly. Which for myself has been and continues to be the most enriching, enjoyable process of practicing. 
&lt;br/&gt; For the past few years ive been practicing with a different teacher, fong ha, in the bay area. This teacher is truly a wonderful, insightful, experienced neigong artist and teacher. With a wonderful focus on the internal, meditative aspects of standing training, yiquan, wuji qigong and tai chi. 
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&lt;br/&gt; Back to the beginning of this post - why do i train myself? Though i do not do much specific partner fighting practices anymore, what i do is fulfilling. And one of the motivations for stopping the more overt martial trainings was simply the quality of how i felt from it in my body. I simply loved the subtler, fluid, healthier feeling quality cultivated directly through standing meditation, yiquan, bagua and tai chi far more then the through some of the martially oriented arts training processes. 
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&lt;br/&gt; Though to some extent we can adapt specifically fighting / martial training with others to be harmonious and peaceful, it can also easily slip into creating an energy and thoughforms of antagonism, violence, stress... which can actually be magnetic - qualities which we are supposedly training to prevent through mostly physically oriented "selfdefense" arts. At an extreme, we can even debilitate our own and our training partners bodies by our selves. Without even having ever been officially called to "defend" ourselves or another.
&lt;br/&gt; And if unchecked or unbalanced through meditation, reflection and a simply open heart - fighting skill ( as well as supposed spiritual accomplishment, financial status, career, social status...) can inflate ego to arrogance, abusiveness and subtle or overt violent tendencies. 
&lt;br/&gt; So i suppose i could say that i practice the wuji qigong, yiquan, tai chi and occasional bagua arts largely for the unification it assists of my consciousness / being, clarifying &amp;amp; focusing of awareness / consciousness, energy enhancement and subtlelization, and it simply feels very, very wonderful wholistically. 
&lt;br/&gt; As for partner practices, with a couple people coming from a shared attitude and approach to the arts and viewing partner practices as a mutually supportive process of becoming increasingly integrated with our wholistic equilibrium, graceful presence &amp;amp; movement and harmonious relationship to life - i would definitely love engaging such manner of partner practices regularly back into my practice. Though I am also fairly content with the core value of the solo practices i do as well. 
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&lt;br/&gt; Though its only  a small but wordy fragment of my feelings, as words do not contain the expansiveness of our feelings and awarenesses, this is some of why i practice. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Anyone else feel like sharing why you practice these arts? What motivates you and inspires you related to them? &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Looking for a Baguazhang school or teacher</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hello, I am new to this forum. I am interested in Baguazhang and its martial applications. I am trying to find a school in the Los Angeles area, please, does anyone have any information? Please, can you post your information on this forum. 
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      <title>Tai Ch Chuan's Essense is Self-Defense</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The following is a video of a demonstration performed for the Taramanni School in Rome, Italy.  It provides a few elements that show the differences between external and internal engergies for self defense.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YM5iinV6E&amp;amp;mode=related&amp;amp;search=
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&lt;br/&gt;Tuhan Joseph T. Oliva Arriola&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>looking for friends in DC to hang with next weekend</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hi folks, I'm coming to DC next Thursday and don't know anyone
&lt;br/&gt;that trains down there...anyone like to get together to turn circles, 
&lt;br/&gt;stand, push/rou shou, etc.?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I teach taiji etc in W. Mass.
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&lt;br/&gt;If there are any "must see" schools / teachers/ you can recommend 
&lt;br/&gt;that too would be helpful.
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&lt;br/&gt;Thanks!
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&lt;br/&gt;JF&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Yang Style Tai Chi</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Any interests in Yang Style Tai Chi Hand/Sword Forms?
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&lt;br/&gt;Tai_Ji_Xin
&lt;br/&gt;You may find more information from:
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&lt;br/&gt;http://tai-chi-for-health.blogspot.com/
&lt;br/&gt;http://tai-chi-sword.blogspot.com/
&lt;br/&gt;http://tai-chi-24-forms.blogspot.com/&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Jet Li's Fearless</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Terrific movie!  Go see it!!  A great role that Jet Li had for his last movie.  &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Bay area push hands/training partner sought</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hello, a friend of mine just told me about this tribe.  I've been studying tai chi on my own for a couple years, and would like to begin practicing some push hands or other friendly sparring methods.  Please contact me if you would like to discuss the possibility of getting together - many thanks - Hunter &lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:46:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Iron palm.</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hello Im looking to start iron palm training, and i am  trying to compare methodologies before i begin. can anyone point out some good resources or recomend their own training regimine?
&lt;br/&gt;Also If anyone knows a place to buy good dit da jow in portland id apreciate the tip.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:29:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>More Pressure Points...its in the Trained Grip</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Its in the Grip:
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgiwhPNmFQg&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:55:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>N00b humbly seeks advice :)</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I'm about to join a Bagua school, have done some research and am looking for any advice people are willing to give to someone with a background in largely external combative arts who's looking to make the jump into the internal world.  
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&lt;br/&gt;Thanks! :D&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:16:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Intro to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu / Submission Wrestling Seminar in SF (THIS Weds!!!)</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;INTRODUCTORY BRAZILIAN JIU JITSU SEMINAR 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;(BEGINNERS WELCOME!!!)
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;WHERE: K-1 Fitness, 2001 Van Ness Ave (at Jackson), San Francisco
&lt;br/&gt;WHEN: August 1st (THIS Wednesday!) at 7:00pm
&lt;br/&gt;PRICE: $20 for non-members, FREE to members of K1-Fitness
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Professora Jessi Taran, (2 time winner of the US Open in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ), 1st place winner of the Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic in BOTH Brazilian Jiu Jitsu as well as submission wrestling, and currently ranked by grapplers.com as the number 1, female BJJ heavyweight in the world) will be teaching an introductory BJJ/submission wresting seminar this coming Wednesday night, at K-1 fitness in San Francisco at 7:00 pm. For almost ten years, Taran has studied under and trained with some of the most well-respected BJJ fighters in the world today, including Ralph Gracie, Renzo Gracie, David Camarillo, Ricardo de la Riva, and Sergio Silva. She is one of only FIVE American women to have ever achieved the rank of Black Belt in the art of BJJ. She also holds a Master's degree in philosophy from the Katholiek Universitat Leuven, in Belgium. She wrote her thesis on 'The Role of Courage in Women's Moral Action'.
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&lt;br/&gt;Often referred to as 'the world's most practical martial art', Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is grappling based, combative art. Primarily focused on the 'ground game', in recent years, BJJ has won substantial notoriety due to it's unparalleled success in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) venues such as the UFC. Like Judo (which shares a common history), no strikes or kicks are used in Jiu Jitsu. The object of a BJJ match is to achieve a dominant position and immobilize your opponent. This is done by trapping the other person in a submission hold, (usually a joint lock or a carotid artery choke) and applying just enough pressure in order to get him to 'tap out' or verbally submit.  
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&lt;br/&gt;Because of the enormous popularity of televised fight shows such as the UFC and IFL, many people think that BJJ and MMA are the same thing, or that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu's primary importance is it's functionality in winning MMA fights. While it's true that the study of BJJ is an integral element of any MMA fighter's education, it's important to remember that BJJ and MMA are NOT the same thing. Despite it's practicality and proven combat effectiveness, a BJJ match is NOT 'a fight' - it's a GAME, an ART, and a SCIENCE.  Only when the art is viewed as a whole, and not just as a means to an end (i.e. : cool submission holds for MMA fights... ) can the beauty, complexity, and subtle, non-verbal, truths that lie at the heart of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, be fully understood and appreciated . 
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&lt;br/&gt;Professora Taran is the co-founder of the Open Door Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Academy in Oakland, California, where she has been teaching for the past four years. She currently teaches at both the Open Door Academy in Oakland, and also at World Jiu Jitsu in Marin. Taran's stated goal is to make the art of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu accessible to ANYONE who wants to train, regardless of age, fitness level, gender, or sexual orientation. According to Taran, 'Most BJJ instructors focus the majority of their energy on those students they think have the best chance at becoming tournament champions. Personally, I feel that if a student really wants to compete, that's fine. But if he doesn't want to compete...well...that's fine too! You do learn something from competing in tournaments, but honestly, I really don't see the karmic value of taking a bunch of really tough, athletic, guys, and turning them into really, REALLY tough, athletic, guys. Where's the challenge in THAT, you know? I myself am much more interested in taking regular people of average, or even sub-standard, athletic ability, and giving them something that they never had before, or even knew existed. Now THAT means something! I love seeing how people's lives change when they don't have to worry about feeling afraid anymore. You don't need to be 'tough' in order to be successful at Jiu Jitsu. That's the whole POINT. That's why it's so amazing!'
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Aside from her many accomplishments, both as a competitor as well as an instructor, (Taran's students have placed in multiple high level BJJ and submission wrestling tournaments, including the US Open and the Pan American Games) what truly sets the Professora apart from other BJJ instructors, is her precise attention to technical detail, and her 'philosophy of control'.  Says Taran, 'Despite popular misconceptions about the art, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is really NOT about injuring or hurting one's opponent; it's about controlling him. We know this because it's the ONLY martial art in which you can spar FULL FORCE, without necessarily getting injured or injuring your opponent. Of course, like any sport, injuries can happen sometimes, but only accidentally.  You certainly aren't trying to hurt anyone! As a matter of fact, I believe that if you DO hurt the person you're rolling with, it's same as a loss. This is because both results  are ultimately rooted in the same cause - a loss of control. In order to be able to physically control another person stronger or larger than yourself, you must first learn control of your own body. '
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Professora Taran will be teaching at K-1 Fitness on a regular basis starting the second week of August. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;For more information please write to: info@karate-one.net , or call (415) 474-3322
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      <title>San Jose Taichi Pushhand Club</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;"Welcome tai chi/push hand practitioners of any style. Fixed-style and free-style PUSH HAND practices in the park. 
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&lt;br/&gt;-- Time: every Saturday and Sunday, 8 to 10 AM 
&lt;br/&gt;-- Address(google): Townsend Park Cir. &amp;amp; Townsend Ave. San Jose, CA 95131"&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Wang HaiJun in Annapolis area June 2, 3</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Master Wang HaiJun will be at the Jing Ying Institute of Kung Fu &amp;amp; Tai Chi in June for an in-depth workshop on Silk Reeling and LaoJia YiLu or Old Frame I. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Students will have in-depth practice of LaoJia YiLu and Silk Reeling exercises. LaoJia YiLu is the foundation form that the other major styles of Tai Chi (TaiJi) are derived from, so this workshop will be especially appropriate for students of other styles of TaiJi as well as those specifically interested in Chen-Style. All levels can participate as beginners will have the opportunity to learn the form, while intermediate and advanced students can review and refine their movements. Future workshops will build on the skills taught in this workshop. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;When: Saturday, June 2 and Sunday June 3 from 9:30 am to 5:00 pm with a 90 minute break for lunch. Check-in/registration will start at 9:00 am 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Where: Jing Ying Institute in Arnold Maryland (Annapolis/Severna Park area) 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Cost: $195 for full weekend, $120 for single day (Walk-in registrations will pay an additional $15) 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Space is limited, so make your reservations soon. Go online at: 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.jingying.org/ to make your reservation and arrange payment by credit card, check or cash. Make checks payable to Jing Ying Institute. You can also call us at 410-431-5200 or mail payment to: 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Jing Ying Institute of Kung Fu &amp;amp; Tai Chi 
&lt;br/&gt;1195 Baltimore Annapolis Blvd #6 
&lt;br/&gt;Arnold MD 21012 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Please feel free to share this information with other TaiJi enthusiasts who may be interested in this wonderful opportunity. &lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 23:51:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hey All!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I'm new to the tribe and to the internal arts as well, but have been studying external styles for some time.  I'm looking to incorporate the principles of the internal arts into my person development.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I was wondering:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Does anyone know if the book: "Combat Techniques of Taiji, Xingyi and Bagua - Principles and Practices of Internal Martial Arts" by Ly Shengli was any good.  I saw it today and am considering buying it.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Also, does anyone know of any good internal schools in the Ottawa area?
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&lt;br/&gt;Thanks.  I hate to appear and start asking questions right away, but I guess I'm trying to move forward at a steady pace, and, to tell the truth, came to this tribe for advice.
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&lt;br/&gt;Thanks again!
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&lt;br/&gt;Namaste&lt;/div&gt;
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      <dc:date>2007-04-25T00:40:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>A few video links of old "masters". (The quotations used as mastery is an ongoing journey.)</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;A few video links of various artists. I am neither overtly praising or discounting any of the subjects of these videos. These are processes and perspectives which we can all discern for ourselves as we choose to. 
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&lt;br/&gt;"Tung Ying Chieh 1950 slow set" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny9biV4DQmo
&lt;br/&gt;One of the teachers of Fong Ha, who teaches Yiquan, Tai Chi &amp;amp; Wuji qigong in Berkeley &amp;amp; San Anselmo, California. 
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb1rYHvgVFU  Another of Fong Has teachers. &amp;amp;lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&amp;amp;lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zb1rYHvgVFU"&gt;&amp;amp;lt;/param&gt;&amp;amp;lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&amp;amp;lt;/param&gt;&amp;amp;lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zb1rYHvgVFU" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&amp;amp;lt;/embed&gt;&amp;amp;lt;/object&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;Ma Yu Liang push hands - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_gmMqzf2I8
&lt;br/&gt;this video link may work for a short time only, as the poster says they may be taking it down in near future.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny9biV4DQmo
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&lt;br/&gt;Taiji Chinna 1/4
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c25uWLrO5jU
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&lt;br/&gt;Taiji Chinna 2/4
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lYphncfIb4
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&lt;br/&gt;Taiji Chinna 3/4
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFWS6ZisVE4
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&lt;br/&gt;Taiji Chinna 4/4
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dohp8qLQfpg
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&lt;br/&gt;Wang Pei Sheng,"head of the Northern Wu Style Taiji Quan"?
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0DNMElas8
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&lt;br/&gt;Brothers and yiquan masters Yao Chengguang &amp;amp; Yao Chengrong, sons of master Yao Zongxun, practicing yiquan.
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ZBR51Tewg
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&lt;br/&gt;Yang Taiji by Fu Zhongwen, student of Yang Chenfu
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ddaNpHOGo
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&lt;br/&gt;Sun Zhi Jun - BaGuaZhang
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndY4jMB9w6U
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&lt;br/&gt;Anyone else with related videos to post? 
&lt;br/&gt;Ill search around and perhaps post more when i find them.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Internal Arts classes</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;If anyone is interested in researching xingyi chuan or bagua zhang check out; http://www.chineseboxingclub.org/&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I'm new to all of this, and i want to take classes mainly for self-defence. I am thinking about either bagua or tai-chi, so any information would be helpful.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;what do you guy think about the hughes and st. pierre fight. &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>18 daoist palms and five elders system</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;what do you experts think about this martial arts and james lacy. just curious&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>hi</title>
      <link>http://tribes.tribe.net/sfbayinternalchuanartspartners/thread/54b7c9c4-b136-43ff-9a91-dac82039defa</link>
      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hi everyone,  
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&lt;br/&gt;Just wanted to intro'  I study Yangjia Michuan Taijiquan and historical chinese swordsmanship...am happy to have found your tribe and look forward to many rewarding discussions...
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&lt;br/&gt;With every kindness,
&lt;br/&gt;Tashi &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Introducing myself...</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hi, my name is John. Currently I am studying Serrada Eskrima (http://www.tribe-iesa.com/home.html) and the Garimot system of Arnis De Mano (www.garimot.com), both Filipino martial arts. I am here because I am interested inlearning as much as possible about internal energy (Qi/Chi). I am also interested in learning more about Reiki. I reside in Silicon Valley. &lt;/div&gt;
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      <dc:date>2006-10-05T16:02:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Greetings</title>
      <link>http://tribes.tribe.net/sfbayinternalchuanartspartners/thread/e24d018d-2d19-4b91-a0db-fe366e42e5b5</link>
      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hi, 
&lt;br/&gt;I am a new member and wanted to introduce myself.  I am a frequency balancing student and am returning to qigong after a bit of a break where life and such pulled me from my practise.  I am currently working tward developing the small circulation in my practise and any suggestions or advise to improve my practise would be very welcome.
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&lt;br/&gt;Guenuureth.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:04:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>hello all i'm michael and i live in fresno ca</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hello all i'm michael and i live in fresno ca, and i teach the internal arts of Sun style taijiquan and Yang style taijiquan (Yang Lu- Chan's form), also the dragon palm system of baGuaZhang and the comprehensive school of the hopei lineage of hsing-i chuan both the 5 elements and the 12 animals i am not saying all this to brag just a type of resume if you will i also teach the qigong that goes with these systems+ the 2 man fighting or san shou sets.i have been doing internal gungfu ever since i was 12 years old i am now 23. and my lineage is as follows: BAGUA-DONG HAI CHUAN,  ZHANG ZHAO DONG,  CHANG SONG YAN,  CHANG KWEI WHEN,  WANG SHI QING,  DAINEL VASQUEZ(8 YEAR DISIPLE OF MASTER WANG),  AND MY SELF MICHAEL BRISTOW.    TAIJIQUAN (YANG STYLE) YANG LU CHAN, YANG SHAO HOU, CHANG YIU CHUN, ERLE MONTAIGUE, AND MYSELF. HSING-I CHUAN: CHI LUNG FENG, T'SAO JI WU, TAI LONG PENG, LI LOU NENG, LIU QILAN, CHANG CHAO DONG, CHANG SONG YAN, CHANG KWEI WHEN, WANG SHI QING, DAINEL VASQUEZ, MYSELF. the sun style i can only trace back to master chang kwei when so that one is a little misty to me but  i do know that it goes to master sun lu tang who is in both our taiji bagua and hsing-i lineages.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Sorry, my last topic isn't what i wanted to say, exactaly</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I'm sorry, i'm also new to this tribe place so i don't know how to edit my last topic or if i even can. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, for a long story short: After looking around at various martial arts the two that stood out the most were Tai-Chi and Ba Gua. I did some research but it was all pretty much the same, so my friend showed me this tribe place. I wasn't paying attention to what he wrote, so...all this happned.
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&lt;br/&gt;I would just like some information about tai chi and ba gua to help make a decision. I'm interested in all the aspects they have to offer not just self-defense capabilities. They both sound like good choices, and i want to hear what people think of them before i make up my mind.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Nyc</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;anyone in nyc interested in push hands?  I would like to set up some kind of weekly push hands gathering.  The kind of thing that gets it's own momentum, carries on for years with no organization. attracts people of diverse backgrounds, is a place you can meet friends, like minded people, lovers, and will eventually be the centerpoint for an internal martial arts renaisance in america.
&lt;br/&gt;But for now, just some people to meet in a  park or something and push.
&lt;br/&gt;Also, any ideas for possible spaces for winter?  Not neccessarily specific places, but types of places where you can go in the winter and do stuff and not be cold.  I would like any momentum from the warm times not stopped in the cold times
&lt;br/&gt;devin&lt;/div&gt;
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      <dc:date>2005-10-04T16:03:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Intro</title>
      <link>http://tribes.tribe.net/sfbayinternalchuanartspartners/thread/ea217f5d-5058-48d6-abec-f9d77bec9ae5</link>
      <description>&lt;div&gt;New member from upstate NY...37 plus years, now mainly qigong and stuff from (Hebei) XingYi and (Gao and Sun Lu Tang styles) Ba Gua...best to all, hope to have some good conversations with my brothers and sisters here...best to all,
&lt;br/&gt;Xingteacher1 (Rick)&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:49:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Welcome to Internal Chuan Arts Training Partners tribe.</title>
      <link>http://tribes.tribe.net/sfbayinternalchuanartspartners/thread/88661b55-7e5a-42d0-9b52-4dae47cdcc3b</link>
      <description>&lt;div&gt;One of the main motivations in creating this tribe, is to provide a space for people involved in these arts to meet each other, and then get together and train in the partner training aspects of respective arts.  Of course, sharing solo practices is certainly a valuable option, too. 
&lt;br/&gt;Indeed, solo practice is the spine, the core of a quality foundation and in itself can be complete for internal / spiritual development, clarity, health &amp;amp; peace. 
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;For those of us interested in supplementing our practice with dual (or more) partner practices (tou shou, rou shou, chi sau, drills, improvisational sensitivity &amp;amp; equilibrium sensing / enhancing practices...) here is a springboard for meeting likehearted people and doing so. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If you know of anyone else involved in these arts in the SF Bay area, let them know of this tribe too. The more of us here, the more opportunities for exchanging, learning, meeting...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Aaron &lt;/div&gt;
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