Talk like an Egyptian...

topic posted Tue, March 18, 2008 - 4:55 PM by  Maura
Daughter's Egyptian dance teacher has persuaded her that the next level of enjoyment for both herself and her audience involves learning Egyptian arabic so that she can sing songs with understanding while dancing. Any one have any suggestions for language courses (tape, CD, DVD)?
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Maura
Louisville
  • Re: Talk like an Egyptian...

    Tue, March 18, 2008 - 7:24 PM
    Rosetta Stone. It's expensive, but many public libraries now carry it. Our library even has it available online at any hour of the day and night, and they have the Arabic version. I'm finding it very easy to follow.
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      Tue, March 18, 2008 - 8:06 PM
      I haven't tried using Rosetta Stone myself, but I've heard from other people that the dialect of Arabic that it uses is Koranic Arabic, which is quite different from that used in Egypt. But I'd love to hear from folks on this thread whether that's true, or whether there's a different product that is more Egyptian.
      • Re: Talk like an Egyptian...

        Tue, March 18, 2008 - 10:27 PM
        Rosetta Stone is indeed in Fosha Shira. Fosha is useful though- as Arabs everywhere understand it and can communicate with you in it for the most part. Each country has different accents and colloquialisms. It's helpful to learn Egyptian Arabic if you use a lot of Egyptian music...a natural focus for an Egyptian teacher. :)
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          Wed, March 19, 2008 - 1:50 AM
          ArabicPod.net. It's free for the podcasts although you have to pay a membership fee to get the PDF's and transcripts of the podcasts. It's actually incredibly helpful, and if she has a commute it's great to listen to and speak along with while driving.
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        Wed, March 19, 2008 - 8:39 AM
        An Arab-American woman recommended Rosetta Stone to me. Her family is Algerian, and she speaks French and English and is picking up Arabic to better communicate with friends. But she's finding the program useful for that purpose.
  • Re: Talk like an Egyptian...

    Wed, March 19, 2008 - 8:40 AM
    Pimsleur's Egyptian Arabic cds.


    Although, just to let you know...I signed up for an Arabic language course, and it is HARD to learn!!!!! (i had to drop the class because I've been ill, but....)

    PLEASE make sure that your daughter understands that she will probably not pick it up overnight, but to keep practicing, and keep working...it is a really hard language to learn.
    • Re: Talk like an Egyptian...

      Thu, March 20, 2008 - 4:14 AM
      Hopefully daughter has more talent as a linguist than I do, or it is going to be VERY hard! The teacher is an Egyptian who speaks flawless English, so maybe the two of them can reinforce learning process during lesson time (which is private). I have zero talent as a linguist so I'm useless to her in this endeavor.
  • Re: Talk like an Egyptian...

    Sat, March 22, 2008 - 2:01 PM
    My copy of Pimsleur's Egyptian Arabic part 1 CD arrived in the mail yesterday. I've been working with it today while tooling around in my car.

    First impression - I really like it!

    1. I really like the way the lesson is structured! First they have you listen to a brief conversation between a man and a woman.

    2. Then they take the very first thing the man said, tell you what the complete sentence means, then take each word at a time telling you what it means and giving you lessons in pronouncing each word, one syllable at a time.

    3. If the vocabulary word would be different for a man than for a woman, it teaches you the difference. For example, if saying "you" to a man, it's "enta", but if saying "you" to a woman, it's "enti".

    4. It pays extra attention to sounds that exist in Arabic but not in English, pointing them out and giving you some practice time with them.

    I feel like it's really teaching me to speak/pronounce and understand what I'm hearing, which is what I wanted from it. Unfortunately, my brain retains info best from what it sees, and not so well from what it hears, so I'm having to play it over and over to retain it. But that's my limitation in how I learn, and not the fault of the program.

    I've gotten about 15 minutes into it so far. I've learned how to say "Excuse me", "Do you understand English?", "Do you understand Arabic?", "I understand English," "I understand Arabic," "Yes sir," "Yes ma'am," "Are you American?" and "I understand a little." It also has "yes" and "no" in that section, but I already knew those. Still, it's good to practice matching the pronunciation.

    I plan to work with this every time I go anywhere in my car from now through June, to prepare myself for my upcoming trip to Egypt!
    • Re: Talk like an Egyptian...

      Tue, March 25, 2008 - 6:28 AM
      Just wait til you get to the conversations in the later lessons.

      First it's all about "do you want to eat something? where would you like to eat? when do you want to eat? do you want to drink something...with me?" and the woman is all like "yes, sure, yes, yes."
      and I'm thinking "No, really, I need to know how to say no, I would not like to get a drink with you."

      Then the next lesson was a guy pestering a woman, asking her over and over again when she would like to go out to eat with him and her just saying "No, no, no I would NOT Like to eat with you, I would not like to drink with you. Not at 7, not at 8, not at 9, and not at 10. no."
      It made me laugh.
  • Re: Talk like an Egyptian...

    Thu, March 27, 2008 - 6:45 PM
    Tonight I finished Lesson 1. I've been listening to it over and over, mastering each little sub-lesson before continuing, and tonight I finally reached the end of it. In the pack of CD's I got, there were 10 lessons. So, one down, 10 to go. And then, once I finish those, there are additional CD's I can order.

    I really like the Pimsleur's format. In fact, even though I speak French fluently, I'm tempted to get their French series just to see if working with it will help me reduce my American accent!

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