Have you ever reached a point where you find that you no longer wish to use a certain technique in your dance that your teacher or former troupe director used to have you do? For example, have you abandoned a certain costuming style, or quit using a certain type of prop, or discontinued a certain move, or embraced an entirely different style of music from what you learned in the past?

Have your tastes changed? Did you formerly enjoy some of the moves/music/props/costuming, and then lost interest in it?

I've noticed that there are certain things I was taught that I no longer care to do. I don't have anything against people who still like to do them, but I've found they're not right for me. I don't want to get too specific about them, because I don't want to hurt the feelings of anybody reading this tribe who still likes them, I'm more interested in discussing the general idea of choosing to un-learn something or leave it in your past.

I remember the first time I found myself thinking, "Even though I know that move, I'm not going to teach it to my students. I don't see a need to teach them *everything* I know if I don't think it's attractive." Or, the time I realized during a solo performance, "Why am I doing this move? I've never liked it. Just because I learned it doesn't mean I need to use it." Or, "I used to like the troupe costume I owned that was made from a certain fabric, but now I don't like that fabric at all."

Is it just me, or have others gone through their own changes of this sort?
posted by:
Shira
Iowa
  • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

    Wed, August 6, 2008 - 12:31 PM
    When I started dancing, I was married. My mother-in-law was a source of inspiration to dance, as she told stories of her dancing days. When I divorced, I realized that a lot of my costume choices were made to please her, and I no longer feel the need to do that. She did not influence my movements or style, per se, as I soon found out that her stories were... mostly just that.
  • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

    Wed, August 6, 2008 - 2:24 PM
    Actually, this is why I broke away from my first instructor. Teachers in my area are sparse, and at the time I knew of no one who was teaching cabaret style - in fact it seemed to be very frowned upon. So I ventured out on my own.

    I'll readily admit I started teaching much too early, but there were no classes that really taught the approach to dance I enjoyed, so I created my own. Now that my students & troupe are starting to stand on their own, I have been finding ways to become a student again and work on my own dancing.
    • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

      Wed, August 6, 2008 - 2:58 PM
      It has happened to me too. It's not that I don't enjoy anymore certain stuff; I still do, and I still think it's pretty, when I see others doing it.
      It's that in this time of my life, I need to express myself in a different way, being it through costuming, choice of music or make-up.
    • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

      Thu, August 7, 2008 - 12:04 PM
      I understand implicitly what you are saying, Magdalene. I, too, started teaching too soon, largely due to a complete lack of instructors in my area. My tastes, style, and interests have changed so drastically (not to mention my entire way of life, but that's another story lol) that I am quite content to retreat back into the position of student while I feel my way through new and exciting changes in my areas of interest.

      There is still a complete lack of teachers in my area, but until something changes, I'll have to satisfy myself with videos and DVDs.
      • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

        Thu, August 7, 2008 - 3:12 PM
        Of the many fun words I've heard come out of the mouth of Jim Boz, one thing he's said really stuck with me.

        "If it doesn't look good on you, don't do it."

        There are just some moves that don't "look good" on me. Not because I'm doing them incorrectly.... just the way the body is shaped. I think if we really looked at ourselves and at others while in class, notice which moves look great on you... and which ones, not so great. Also, others in your class. We come in all sizes, all body types, shapes, etc. There are just some moves that look better when I do them than others do. So, I drop the ones I don't think are flattering.
  • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

    Wed, August 6, 2008 - 6:11 PM
    Awesome topic!

    I think this is all part of the process we go through to become our own dancer and develop our own style. And it isn't just limited to what you learn from your long-term teacher. When taking a workshop you can often be met with movements you don't like and don't want to use. At the same time, if you've attended the workshop with a student of your own, she may pick up on a movement you don't like yourself and use it in her own solo work. That doesn't mean the instructor is wrong or that you are wrong or that your student is wrong. It's all a matter of personal taste.

    I do teach movements I don't prefer to do myself in classes. I think it's important for each and every student to find what works for her. If it's a movement I don't use, I say, "I don't do this myself because I don't think it looks particularly flattering on me. However, many things in this dance are a matter of personal taste. If YOU like it (and it's not lewd or something...I don't teach that stuff unless I'm offering an example though), then USE it!" I've heard complaints from people here and there of teachers who only teach there own style. Of course, it's safe to assume this is going to happen to a degree. However, it's nice to be aware of that and make room for personal growth in students.

    With costuming, however, it can all be based on body type (which I remember reading something about in the Belly Dance Book =oD). I did learn the hard way with costuming what looks good and what doesn't (and I have PROOF!). And I can admit that I am still learning. I look at some costumes I've had that people complimented me on and think, "huh? I know so and so liked it but..." This is in addition to the natural course of changing tastes. How many bands did you like 10 years ago that maybe you aren't so interested in now? Or movies? Or fashion statements?
  • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

    Wed, August 6, 2008 - 6:32 PM
    i think that is how trends and general changes in fashion happen, when people have these things happen at the same time.
    i'm only a baby dancer, but i already noticed myself changing tastes from tribal styles to cabaret. (i'm glad i took that cab class while i was in school, thank you Jennie!) i noticed some other people saying the same thing, folks who had been dancing for some time, had done tribal, and were just happening to be feeling cab. lately. not as if they didn't like tribal anymore, they were just in the mood for cab much more often.
  • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

    Thu, August 7, 2008 - 4:35 AM
    What about choreos? I have done probably 8-10, but now find lack of desire to perform about half of them. Sometimes I wonder whether I am choosing songs because they seem easy to choreograph, then by the time I perform them a few times, I am sick of them. Well, with one song I kept the song but radically redid the choreography. And another song I find my love for it (and the choreo) have not dimmed. I wonder how to pick songs that will stand the test of time better. Or maybe this is inevitable?
    • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

      Thu, August 7, 2008 - 6:28 AM
      Cathy, in my experience, it's easier to make a choreography for a song you LOVE to dance to, than to pick what seems a good song to dance to and then make a choreography. When you love the music, eventually the choreography will come out, with time, of course.

      Let me put an example: If I choose a famous song amply used by dancers I can say, oh, it's a nice song, it's groovy, I can see this movement hear and this movement there. But if it's not my cup of tea, I will grow tired of hearing it to rehearse and to compose the dancing. Therefore, I will not want to dance to it anymore.
      But if I choose a song that puts me on my feet every time I hear it, in little time I will know the song upside down and the movements to match the music will develop naturally.

      At least, this is what happens to me.
    • Re: Abandoning stuff you've learned?

      Thu, August 7, 2008 - 7:52 AM
      I think once the challenge of creating and "mastering" our choreos wears off, we lose interest in them. But don't let them go away - you may need them to fill up a show and wish you hadn't forgotten them. Keep in mind that Broadway actors, touring musicians, and professional entertainers in general end up performing the same material night after night for months on end. How many times do you think Aerosmith has done the song "Walk this Way"? Audiences enjoy the old favorites, so try to find ways to make the dances interesting, even if they feel old hat and boring to you as the entertainer.

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