Back in 3113 BC the Mayans created their own calander which is to end in 2012 which is around 5000 years later...
Back in the day when Adam and Eve were cast out of Garden of Eden, God said it would be for 5 days. 5 days pass and Adam says, hey God, ok we'll be good, can we come back like you said we could? God says, not yet, in the Garden of Eden time is different, a day in the garden is likened unto a thousand years outside the garden walls. so you still have 5000 years to exist outside the garden gates less 5 days.
Now here we, 2008, nearly 5000 years after the lesson of Adam and Eve, which indeed is the first lesson of karma in any written hostiry we are aware of at this time....well, soon it will be time that Adam and Eve will be returned to garden and I can only imagine they are heartily awaiting that moment in what I can only surmise is 2012. If by this info I can trust....that would make them both well over a hundred years old by garden years back then, tag onto that 5000 years and well, you get the picture, they would be the oldest living people IF they are still alive somewhere.
BUT...I think that the old testament is history as we knew it in the first creation of earth...according to some cultures, we are in our 4th creation...so the first three are recorded in the old testament. That means the new testament of the bible is of our current creation. THis could explain why God had to create so many Eve's for Adam, the first being Lilith...who wanted to run things. Adam went and tattled on her to God, lol, and God said ok, you can go over to the other part of the world and raise children. Some say they are demons but it was the catholic church that demonized her just for wanting to be on top. Lol! Lilith was created using Adams tail...which is why our current Eve was created using Adams rib and it was she who God commanded to be subordinate to Adam, not all women, but this current Eve. Another Eve was created right in front of Adam, it so grossed him out he could not bare to look at her...or touch her so he asked God to take her away, which God did.
Even today the sons of Adam and Lilith can be found, they are the children who are born with a tail.
Blessings.
Back in the day when Adam and Eve were cast out of Garden of Eden, God said it would be for 5 days. 5 days pass and Adam says, hey God, ok we'll be good, can we come back like you said we could? God says, not yet, in the Garden of Eden time is different, a day in the garden is likened unto a thousand years outside the garden walls. so you still have 5000 years to exist outside the garden gates less 5 days.
Now here we, 2008, nearly 5000 years after the lesson of Adam and Eve, which indeed is the first lesson of karma in any written hostiry we are aware of at this time....well, soon it will be time that Adam and Eve will be returned to garden and I can only imagine they are heartily awaiting that moment in what I can only surmise is 2012. If by this info I can trust....that would make them both well over a hundred years old by garden years back then, tag onto that 5000 years and well, you get the picture, they would be the oldest living people IF they are still alive somewhere.
BUT...I think that the old testament is history as we knew it in the first creation of earth...according to some cultures, we are in our 4th creation...so the first three are recorded in the old testament. That means the new testament of the bible is of our current creation. THis could explain why God had to create so many Eve's for Adam, the first being Lilith...who wanted to run things. Adam went and tattled on her to God, lol, and God said ok, you can go over to the other part of the world and raise children. Some say they are demons but it was the catholic church that demonized her just for wanting to be on top. Lol! Lilith was created using Adams tail...which is why our current Eve was created using Adams rib and it was she who God commanded to be subordinate to Adam, not all women, but this current Eve. Another Eve was created right in front of Adam, it so grossed him out he could not bare to look at her...or touch her so he asked God to take her away, which God did.
Even today the sons of Adam and Lilith can be found, they are the children who are born with a tail.
Blessings.
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Re: My take on 2012...for what it's worth
Tue, June 3, 2008 - 6:05 PMInteresting take, but still far too Christian-centric. I have no doubt Lilith was demonized for being a female able and willing to take over the culture, but this is by far not the first written story of Karma. You mention how the Mayans started their calendar in 3113 BC, so you obviously know many, many civilizations had risen and fallen and were still progressing by the time the Common Era took hold and the dates split between politically incorrect BC and AD timelines. In India and the Tibetan plateau, early discourses about Karma became eventually the Buddhist Sacred Biographies. The first main tradition, Hinduism, however, became rooted before even that and considered the phenomilogical aspects of Karma long before many other populations on the planet ever did. One of their greatest substories illustrating their views on karma, The Baghavad Gita, part of the much-longer Mahabarata, is estimated to have been compiled between the fourth and second centuries BCE, aka over two hundred years before Jesus was even around the spark the drafting of biblical doctrine. I doubt this is even the first one, but it's a good place to start. Please check out the wikipedia entry and go from there: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghavad_Gita
The Garden of Eden is just a metaphor, but perhaps a still relevant one if we are to romanticize the indigenous traditions that went before us into that role of being so in-tune with their environment and harvesting procedures that almost no one in the community (unless they were exhiled for other reasons) went hungry. If we are to "return" to that the way you describe, it would only mean returning to simpler times and better Earth-based knowledge. I believe we can do it by the end of 2012 to start the next phase of humanity off right, but there's still oh-so-many things that have to happen between now and then and we can't let another over-riding conglomerate force dictate from above. The community has to work with the community has to work with the community. Outside policing never worked, but we have to be self-directed and confident to prove that inner-direction and community-minded procedure is a better plan.
