well turtle tribe was as far as l got today the server must be having major problems handling users during the upgrade.... will go to a mens group tonight and have a life in general... love our virtual life here on tribe yet glad it's not as happening in the summer especially this year.... as a member l got to read a post from the creators about the rewriting of tribe.... seems it's starting now and will be rolling out soon... the main transition will be the week of labor day weekend while some of us are at BM....

enjoy the sun;;;;freewil