Kinesthetic Journeying

topic posted Wed, December 27, 2006 - 1:07 PM by  offlineTasara
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The FSS does not really go into depth about the kinesthetic experience when journeying. I have had a few students who have been frustrated in learning to journey, only to find that they are deeply kineshetic journeyers. I have some experience with this but not a ton, as I am strongly visual.

Anyone want to share their wisdom in this area? What sorts of things could I suggest to help them out? How can you feel like you are "going somewhere" when you are still in your body feeling all these things but not knowing how to interpret them? (I have had that experience for sure!)

peace,
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Tasara
Seattle
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  • Re: Kinesthetic Journeying

    Mon, January 1, 2007 - 2:55 PM
    I assume you mean that the primary sense with which they experience the journey is touch? I have also run into people who needed to move in order to journey.

    Taking the first assumption, when I have experiences that are physical I can easily get the sense of journey by noting that which is very different from where my physical body is. If I feel fur, icy cold, the sun, etc when none of those things are present with my in the physical I really feel the journey more.

    I don't think kinesthetic is really different from any other sense except that we don't use it as much as we grow out of childhood. Young children make a more equal use of their senses.

    I would tell them that even with visual or auditory, learning to inerpret them takes time. One thing they might try is to go with the experience by moving within the journey. Walk, jump, swing their arms - do things that their physical body isn't doing in this reality.
    • Re: Kinesthetic Journeying

      Sat, June 2, 2007 - 9:55 AM
      Thanks this is helpful for the question I get "If I don't SEE anything, how do I know I got anywhere?" Mmm, I like that. Imagine as if you are there but with your eyes closed..or not a being that uses it's eyes.

      For me, I have found that what helps me the most when I get stuck in a journey (meaning I am pushing to much and therefore not sure if I am "making it up") it to STOP and wait, then feel. I find that I can sense huge power with my other senses. Then I let it draw me forward.
      • Re: Kinesthetic Journeying

        Tue, July 10, 2007 - 8:56 AM
        I have more info on this and I would love to hear more from others, as well.

        I have yet another student with this quandary. I offered to journey for her to get some hints on how to journey when she feels things in her body but doesn't know what they mean. She said it was totally fine to post the results, here, as they may help other people.

        Here is my journey:

        ~~~~~~~~~
        I met a guardian/teacher who was standing barefoot on the land.

        She said, "Tell her to feel it through the bottom of her feet. You can always know where you are by how the ground feels."
        Then the message changed to, "You whole body is your foot. The ground from different landscapes feel differently. They have their own energy and evoke different emotions for people." So there is emotional, physical and energetic.

        Then there was a statement that this is an entirely different language that has to be learned, along with several other suggestions:
        - to explore different parts of one's own body to find out what information/associations reside there. This way, when energy pours into that part of your body, you will know what that means in your own journeying language.
        - to ask lots of questions just for the purpose of noting the responses that come, as a way to learn this new language.

        Then I asked for her to SHOW me, because I am not savvy in this kind of journeying. I immediately felt a rush of energies in my body. I was told that HOW they interact is very important to the message being sought, just like when I read tarot cards. (I do tarot with a deck that does not have pictorial images but rather more abstract paintings. Because of this, my readings focus on the root energies of a situation and how they interact with each other - and what other energies get created from those interactions. I always tell people it is a map of the energies of one's life.) So said not only the language of garnering information is new but of course, the language of the message I would give to someone I am journeying for would be different as well.

        The last thing that happened was that I felt like a tree in bliss from the rich energy of earth at my roots, the delicious energy of rain on my body and the sweet feeding energy of the sun at my top. I had one hand held down and one held up.The one held up was glowing with the sun energy. I felt as if this state was not only a gift but that a gift could be given with my hand. There are lots of interpretations I could make for that but I will leave the journey pure and say that I was not given any direct meaning for that. It was beautiful and felt wonderfully good. The tree image was also probably personal to me because my spiritual world is deeply steeped in trees.
        ~~~~~~~~~
        I look forward to hearing more from people! I think this is a vital area where we can help each other grow. As a teacher, I feel it is important for me to understand these ways so I am going to continue to ask my spirit teachers to give me more of these experiences.
        • Re: Kinesthetic Journeying

          Mon, July 16, 2007 - 2:01 PM
          I am not sure this is any different from the other sense. We have to interpret what we see and hear on journeys as well. I think this is where taking the time to really establish a relationship with one guide really pays off. In the basic class they talk about visiting your teachers and power animals just to know them. Whenever I am not sure about something on a journey I ask my power animal. Sometimes he answers! Sometimes not knowing is part of the work.
          • Re: Kinesthetic Journeying

            Fri, July 27, 2007 - 4:39 PM
            OK, I think I am becoming a magnet for frustrated kinesthetic journeyers! I am directing everyone to this spot in hopes that we can muddle through this together and help each other out. Perhaps I will start a kinesthetic journeyer circle in Seattle.

            I had another thought: One of my (human) teachers said she never 'left her body" to go somewhere, rather, she dropped into her body. It made more sense to her.
            • Re: Kinesthetic Journeying

              Sat, July 28, 2007 - 9:10 AM
              In my personal circle, we all asked for a kinesthetic journey to answer a specific question. Here are things that came up through our experiences and discussion:

              - Much of what happens is below the head, in others words not through the third eye. I felt a horizontal plane at my heart and shoulders, then solar plexus as power centers. If I let my body move, it went into positions that created a story: feeling strangled, feeling healed, reaching to heaven for sustenance.
              - Someone else felt an urge to laugh, others I have talked to feel emotions run through their bodies
              - I imagine that getting up to move around would bring much more information
              - someone had a strong sense of smell, which gave him a place, a specific family of tree, a season.
              - someone commented on how incredibly valuable kinesthetic journeyers would be to a circle, as they bring information that visual people do not
              - The question came up as to how much translation of the experience is necessary in order to deliver information that make sense to the person we are journeying for and how much is crossing the line into interpretation that should be left for the receiver of the information. I may journey on this question specifically. I have this theory that because we are all different creatures, the same body sensation could mean very different things for each person, as we have stored experiences and emotions in our bodies. I could be wrong though. There may be a common language. hmm...
              - This type of journeying feels veeerrry slooow. I don't know if it is but it feels that way. Perhaps it needs longer drumming. I did need to be extra vigilant to not think ahead and push the experience, to let it happen to me.
              - One person became their power animal, a common thing in any journey but I wonder if this should be expected as being a predominant experience.

              That's all I can think of for now. I think Julie's post was right on, as well.
              • Re: Kinesthetic Journeying

                Mon, August 6, 2007 - 2:39 PM
                OK so if you are in the Seattle area and want to be part of a 6-wk circle of not-so-visual (mostly) journyers, let me know! The ball might be rolling, so to speak.
                • Re: Kinesthetic Journeying

                  Fri, August 10, 2007 - 5:23 PM
                  I also am more of a kinesthetic journeyer. I get information in all kinds of ways. I sometimes may sense an outline or shimmer of something then it is as if my brain later fills in what I didn't see at the time. Sometimes when I do see it may look like a snap shot of a scene, with no feeling, energy, none of the other senses, and I'm left with the feeling of "Huh"!
                  Blessings, Donna

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