I see a lot of like minded (to me) people and they talk about how important a pair of pliers are in a survival situation and how they think multitools are gereat things to have at that time. Well I have a fairly good multitool and a very cheap multitool. both have pliers of varying quiality the expensoive pair has pliers that are almost as good as a set of needle nose pliers but I have to say that most of the other tools in the multi tool, the knives, the saw, the file are not as good as one of those tools in a single tool mode. I came to the conclusion that if you needed a tool on a multitool that the multitool version of that tool was better than not having the tool at all. However If you're building a cache, cache the genuine item. I found out to make sheaths for knves so I could make sheaths for pliers and screwdrives and other tools so I could have them all on my belt. A tool roll up case will fit just fine in a pack and having a decentr tool kit will put you leaps ahead in the game. Heck I bet simple tool kits will be very good trade goods when EOW comes. 2 philips and 2 flat screwdrivers a pair of channel locks, a hammer will probably worth their weight in gold. Now let me say in closing I don't dislike multitools, I just think that if you're making a cache, cache real tools. Multitools are something you wear on your belt for convience.