I thinking that when the shit goes down the safest place might not be a well fortified compound, but require that we leave our dwellings and learn to survive out in nature. For this, I think learning about edible plants and medicines would be vital. Ill leave this as an open ended topic.
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 9:32 AMI'd agree.
I was thinking about the importance of having two cache's basicly-- one for being on the move, and another if you have the luxury of being stationary.
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 1:05 PMYes, traditional medicine (as compared to modern medicine) is a lost art. I looked into becoming a doctor of naturopathy but the schooling ain't cheap and you can't get financial aid for it. Therefore, I am self taught on what I do know. It is hard to find sound science regarding body weights, fat content, pre-existing medical conditions etc. and how they all relate to whichever herbal drug your create. Don't ever EVER forget that herbal remedies are still DRUGS and can have detrimental and even fatal effects.
As for getting out of the city, learning all the backroads around the main evacuation routes is very helpful, to include having some bolt cutters in your car for some cross country maneuvering. When it comes to serious calamity, I don't give a rat's patooty about private land ownership. -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 1:25 PMI suppose I'm in an enviable position then, eh? Providing Yellowstone Park doesn't self-destruct, that is.
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 1:33 PMWhich it could if we can't get enough volunteers in there to clean out the understory on a regular basis. Why do you think we had such a horrific fire in the past? Too much fuel in the understory, improper fire managment (before we learned that you have to let things burn). -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 7:59 PMIm studying a combination of Chinese medicine, herbology, and Wilderness EMT training. -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 8:04 PMI figure I will use the Chinese Medicine as the foundation of my healing practice, but Im studying the western herbs under Micheal Tierra so that I can use native herbs within the context of the Chinese system (Which may expand into Tibetan and Aryuvedic systems), plus the WEMT is for basic emergency medicine, and I have a AA in Health Sciences with all my Anatomy, Physiology, and Chemistry.
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 10:42 PMYou know I've spent some time pondering the question of primitive weapons versus firearms.
At some point ammo becomes scarce, and having specialized skills in blades or blunt weapons would seem advantageous
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Sun, January 27, 2008 - 5:33 PMummmmmmmm for some reason i think he was talking about the volcano that is sitting right under yellowstone, but i could be mistaken
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 10:46 PM<<<include having some bolt cutters in your car for some cross country maneuvering>>>
HAHA!! Man, I almost forgot about bolt cutters!
Its been so long since I've done any hardcore off-roading, I've totally forgotten about this amazing tool. -
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Tue, September 4, 2007 - 11:28 PMFlammable projectiles with a sticky and flammable surface imbued with rust and other oxidized metals and whatever else you can salvage can be fired from cannons made from old metal pipes.
Hand to hand and short blades are awesome skills to have though. You should learn an :underhanded" knife fighting style where you hide the blade behind your wrist and fight with the knife pointed downwards and use slashing and stabbing arm movements combined with circular body movements and foot work. Instead of blocking, evade and go for the tendons of the attacking limb with semi circular footwork.
sticks are also commonly available and can be useful.
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 8:44 AMStudy guerrilla tactics of the Viet Cong and the Iraqi insurgents. Anything that requires making things from common junk. Watch Red Dawn, my favorite patriotic movie of all time. -
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Wed, September 5, 2007 - 9:33 PMI'm building a straw bale chicken house with multiple fenced enclosures, rotate the feathered roto rooters in the different compoounds and have a good stock of old fashioned, stable vegetable seeds, turning the rest of the property into rainforest/orchard permaculture with a .22 long rifle backup, almost silent when shot thru a potato, and 2 55 lb compound bows. I've turned out some decent arrow heads for back up. Studying bow making, we have plenty of yew trees in the area.
We're also kicking around the idea of burying 55 gallon bear proof food drums up in the mountains just in case it's a good idea to hunker down till things calm down. -
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Thu, September 6, 2007 - 5:17 PMjust make sure you grow your crops every year for seed and keep a rotating stock of at least three years of viable seed.
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Wed, September 12, 2007 - 8:43 PMVery interesting. I concur about going into Nature.
I plan to take a class soon on building houses out of straw, other unconventional materials.
I'd also like to learn about edible plants, setting snare traps, etc.
But as some have already mentioned... the human aspect is the most frightening.
Yes, how to protect oneself against others...
That will be the biggest problem.
I am learning to shoot though.
And I like the mention of bow-making.
And the medicinal aspect. Important as well.
My bf mentioned that the other day... that we should learn how to set broken bones, etc.
But I am very squeamish. Couldn't make it through a Red Cross First Aid class.
I'll have to get over it.
