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Biodiesel Motorcycles

topic posted Thu, June 23, 2005 - 11:38 AM by  Flavio
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When I first started writing about diesel motorcycles it struck me as a bit unusual, I really wasn’t aware of some of the latest advances in adapting diesel engines to a motorcycle frame but of course, the Thunder Star 1200 got me thinking about the possibilities. That bike gets 150mpg and looks like it should get pretty impressive performance to boot. Now there’s biodiesel to think about and it’s coming on strong.

Home biodiesel kit from Freedom Fuel AmericaOver the weekend, the TV show, Trucks, ran through the whole process of making biodiesel fuel from a large container of used cooking oil picked up at a local restaurant after which, the host, Stacy David, pumped the homebrew into a diesel pickup and ran it through its paces. The truck performed great, or according to Stacy, even better than on regular diesel.

He had a setup from a company called Freedom Fuel America, which consisted of a couple of plastic containers, some pumps and hoses and a test kit to determine how much lye was necessary to adjust the chemical properties of the used oil. Along with lye, the only other component necessary was methanol, same as used in racing engines.

The process looked very simple and straight forward. A few hours later, he had about 20 gallons of biodiesel at a cost of around 70 cents per gallon for a net savings of about $1.50 per gallon. With your basic 30 gallon truck fuel tank, savings can add up fast. How about with a motorcycle? A 5 gallon tank would yield a savings of $7.50, but with a bike like the Thunder Star getting 150mpg, you would practically be riding free. Think about it.

Of course, it would be hard to justify buying this setup just for a motorcycle but many of us have trucks and more than a few are diesels. Suppose you had a car that was diesel, too, do the math. The biodiesel guys have something here that looks very interesting and I think we’re going to be hearing a lot more about this in the very near
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Flavio
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    Re: Biodiesel Motorcycles

    Thu, June 23, 2005 - 11:53 AM
    you could build your own processor if you are interested. there are many set-ups you can do. check out this link and look around and the different processors there and you should have a good idea on how to build one yourself
    journeytoforever.org/biodies...sor.html
    • Re: Biodiesel Motorcycles

      Sat, July 9, 2005 - 6:05 PM
      The 150 mpg comment should be taken with some skepticism.... further discussion indicates he was guessing, since that same engine gets 60 in a VW.
      thekneeslider.com/archives/...continued/

      100 seems more reasonable. Not that 100 isn't outstanding.

      This bike is still only a prototype, looking for money. Check out the diesel Kawasaki KLR.

      www.f1engineering.com/diesel%...ecs.html

      That one is here, now. Except that they aren't selling them to civilians... yet. That, I don't get. But they may soon.
      • Re: Biodiesel Motorcycles

        Sun, July 10, 2005 - 2:13 PM
        That's a sweet bike. Does anyone know if anybody has ever run a Vespa on Biodiesel? You have to mix oil in with the gasoline so it seems feasable....
        • Re: Biodiesel Motorcycles

          Sun, July 10, 2005 - 3:22 PM
          no... not feasable. the prob is, the older vespa's were 2 stroke, hence the reason for the oil. the new vespa's are 4 stroke. 2 stroke engines are not very environmentally friendly. BD is not an oil. 2 strokes require special oil to run reliably. you can use many different kinds, with varying reliability. if you want your 2 stroke to be practical for transportation, you need to run specially made 2 stroke oil, and even then you're looking at pretty regular top-end tear downs.
          • Re: Biodiesel Motorcycles

            Sun, July 17, 2005 - 12:01 PM
            Curses... Foiled again. You're right actually, my Vespa was long on style and short on reliability... and a major polluter to boot. I always wanted it to be practical and environmentally friendly, but I'm glad I never gave in to temptation and filled it with veggie oil!
            • Re: Biodiesel Motorcycles

              Sun, July 17, 2005 - 4:40 PM
              take a look at the new vespas tho....

              www.vespausa.com/

              it's still gas, but 59 mpg is pretty darn good. depending on your environment, can be a great fuel saver for neighborhood errands, etc. it's a 4-stroke, and supposedly light-years more reliable than the classics.

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