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Huge Blow to Science Deniers: Koch Funded Researchers Confirm Global Warming
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Sat, October 29, 2011 - 9:30 PMHope you and your friends are enjoying the East Coast October snow storm, you mindless twit. -
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Sun, October 30, 2011 - 9:34 AMProminent skeptic says he now believes in global warming
"WASHINGTON (AP) — A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.
The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.
Yet he found that the land is 1.6 degrees warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.
He said he went even further back, studying readings from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades......."
news.yahoo.com/skeptic-fi...616605.html
Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real
www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...29.html
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Sun, October 30, 2011 - 9:44 AMcore samples from long before humans could have had any impact show that the earth has gone in and out of "ice ages" in as little as twenty years so if you add carbon the way we have during our petroleum based explosion of population up to 7 billion
i don't need scientist to convince me of anything and global warming does not mean that it won't snow for god's sake
while we debate it, billion dollar ice breakers are being manufactured by global corporations to take full advantage of the northwest passage that is now open and can be used - I mean, how could it be more symbolic than that ? the northwest passage for god's sake?
what modeling shows and has shown for decades is that extremes are to be expected - extreme drought, flood, heat, cold - which we seem to have now in spades
and global warming by melting our northern ice cap and thereby releasing fresh water into the polar ocean eventually cuts off the gulf stream when the salinity drops below a certain point and when the gulf stream stops guess what happens
Ice Age and real fast -
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Re: Koch Funded Researchers Confirm Global Warming
Sun, October 30, 2011 - 11:32 AMYou've seen too many movies.
First of all, Salt acts like an anti-freeze, it changes the freezing (and boiling) points of water. This keeps the seawater from evaporating as fast as groundwater. ... err land-based fresh water that is. So, as the salinity drops, more ocean water will evaporate. This will mean more tropical storms, and wetter weather overall (fog, rain, snow, etc). More evaporation means more salt content in the sea until a balance point is reached. The floods and droughts now are symptoms of this balancing act. -
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Sun, October 30, 2011 - 6:03 PMI didn't doubt the ice core, it's the desalination that comes from The Day After Tomorrow.
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