they seriously need to put a kll strip in that highway there lots of roadkill and i think a killstrip would prevent some cows getting ran over, i remember earthdance 2004 on the way there i almost ran a deer over, i made a complete stop, then i started back up again and it was like running aside me , then all of sudden rear view mirror big safeway brand 18 wheeler comes down and straight mac malls the deer or something it was like a baby or mid ager, and like half a mile before seeing this i rember seeing a mature one with antlers n the side of the road before all this happened!! he was giving me some sort of message!!
he was concerned!!
on the way home from earthdance i see like 3 other roadkills !!!

The Laytonville location has too many restrictions. Like having to turn the volume down for neighbors. F that.

and they poison all the squirrels so you get to watch baby squirrels slowly die while youre at a party. not fun. :(

the one i suggested is a forest campground in santa barbera. does this event HAVE to be in SF? i think people would be willing to drive down for this and the campground here is pretty sound and legit. dunno just something to look into =)


This 40 acre campground is nestled in pristine wilderness between the San Raphael and Santa Ynez Mountains. It's closest neighbor is the San Marcos Golf Course, over whose greens you will drive on the way to the campground.

Originally a campsite for cowboys, Live Oak is the county's largest group facility. It is strategically situated 15 miles northeast of Santa Barbara and 15 miles southwest of Solvang approximately five miles from Cachuma Lake Recreation Area

Amenities include:
Hot showers & restrooms
Roofed Pavilion and eating area that seats 250 guests
Group Picnic Areas
Bird Watching
Hiking Trails
Tent or RV Camping

Just 30 minutes north of Santa Barbara.
LIVE OAK CAMPGROUND
4600 Highway 154, Santa Barbara, CA 93105



From San Francisco

Fill up your car with friends, then... Take the 101 South appx 280 miles to the 154 East. Take the 154 East towards Lake Cachuma appx. 20.5 miles. Once you pass Lake Cachuma you will see San Marcos Golf Course on your left hand side. (You will see a small orange sign on your right that says Live Oak Campground) At the bottom of the hill turn left into the Golf Course entrance. Make an immediate left towards Live Oak Campground and follow the signs to the festival.

for booking info:
www.sbparks.org/DOCS/specialevents.html



now it says 2000 max, but there had to have been 6000 people at LIB easy lol. plus 40 acres is ALOT of space to work with.

i think a general consensus is giving camp and sons a break from these kinds of events for a bit...

long story..not mine to tell :P

Not big enough.

Camp and Sons I think wants 300 maybe 500 max.

Symbiosis needs something that will hold 2000+ from my understanding.