cinema

topic posted Thu, November 23, 2006 - 2:55 PM by  Holden S.
Robert Altman died a few days ago! i regard his 1971 movie McCabe & Mrs. Miller as 1 of my 2 favorite Westerns. the other? Alejandro Jodorowsky's movie El Topo.
my 3 favorite movies about visitors from other worlds: Man Facing Southeast, The Brother From Another Planet and The Day The Earth Stood Still.
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    Thu, November 23, 2006 - 6:57 PM
    I loved his work,the way he assembled a cast and made different stories link together and yet they all tied in made for good cinema
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      Thu, November 23, 2006 - 7:30 PM
      The Long Goodbye was a great private eye movie with Elliott Gould playing Philip Marlowe. Besides MASH, it's my favorite Robert Altman movie.
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    Mon, November 27, 2006 - 9:31 AM
    for shame, Holden! Where is Once Upon A Time In The West on that list of favorite westerns!

    McCabe & Mrs. Miller is such an interesting film, strange in many ways even for Altman. The Leonard Cohen soundtrack is perfection.

    I have to say that my favorite Altman is M*A*S*H, followed closely by Nashville.

    It's sad that he's gone but we're lucky to have had him, and lucky that he worked continuously for so many years.
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      Mon, November 27, 2006 - 10:44 AM
      i haven't seen Once Upon A Time In The West yet, Jane. so little time, so much to see & do. :) anyhoo...want to mention also that i learned just last night that Peter Greenaway's early movie The Falls is available on DVD finally after not being widely available at all. i'm not EXTENSIVELY familiar with Greenaway, but i enjoyed Prospero's Books and ZOO (A Zed & 2 Naughts) very much. The Falls consists of a set of thematically connected shorts done in a mock documentary style that profile the lives & characters of over 90 surviving victims of a disaster called the Violent Unknown Event. i don't want to give too much away, but it's sort of a science fiction film. someone has posted most of the segments on Youtube, so you can watch 'em there. if you like what you see, support Greenaway by buying the DVD.
      since i mentioned El Topo at the beginning of this thread, i should also mention that it & Jodorowsky's 2 other early movies, Fando & Lys and The Holy Mountain, either are now FINALLY, legitimately available (not bootleg) or will be shortly, on DVD from ABKCO Films. YIPPEEE!!! to anyone who knows of the history of the lack of general availability of Jodorowsky's early movies in the U.S. due to a long legal feud between him & Allen Klein...this is a developement of great significance.
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        Mon, November 27, 2006 - 11:01 AM
        The first time I saw a Greenaway film, I was so disturbed by it that I couldn't see its beauty or interest. It was The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover. A few years ago, I started to have this intense craving for it again, and rented it and was completely blown away by it. However, Prospero's Books came out during the period of time that I was still scared of Greenaway, and after I recovered from that, I saw The Pillow Book and was frankly bored.

        The Falls sounds pretty cool, but if that floats your boat, I have two other recommendations for you, sort of thematically linked.

        The first is The Time of the Wolf, by Michael Haneke, who I actually think is the world's greatest living director. His films are also difficult to watch and not as visually stunning as Greenaway's, but I feel like hmmm there's just an awful lot in them. I think Code Unknown may be the best film ever made, and I keep recommending it to people who liked Babel but thought it might be a bit thin while being a bit over the top. Anyway, the Time of the Wolf takes place after an unnamed disaster. Just a small family trying to survive in the English countryside. Pretty intense.

        The second is The Bridge, a documentary that's currently playing here and there. It's about suicides on the Golden Gate Bridge. The filmmakers filmed the bridge continuously during daylight hours for a year (without telling anyone because, obviously, they didn't want to *encourage* jumpers) and when they were able to identify people as possible jumpers they alerted the Bridge authorities, who would find and stop the would be suicides, but still they filmed quite a number of people jumping from the bridge to their death. The families and friends of a number cooperated and discussed the depression and sometimes mental illness that led up to the suicide, and all in all, it's one of the most remarkable films I've ever seen. Completely non judgmental. Completely honest. The families have their own ideas and issues and the filmmakers present those. But there's no agenda.

        www.thebridge-themovie.com/new/....html
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          Mon, November 27, 2006 - 11:43 AM
          Jane, i read about The Bridge because it played briefly here in Santa Barbara. i WANTED to see it but i'm afraid i missed my opportunity! damn!
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            Mon, November 27, 2006 - 1:37 PM
            Drive up tomorrow & I'll go see it with you.

            I saw five movies over the weekend and after each one of them I thought, "Shoulda seen The Bridge again."

            They were:

            The Fountain
            Babel
            F*CK
            The History Boys
            The Cave of the Yellow Dog
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    Mon, November 27, 2006 - 3:14 PM
    Goodbye, Robert Altman. We shall miss you.

    Holden, you left out , "Brother Mine." A damned good movie, imho. But he wasn't in it.
    But It's not about visitors, it's about opposing warriors becoming friends.
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    Thu, December 28, 2006 - 1:45 PM
    Back to the Subject of Westerns, my top five :-

    1. The Outlaw Josey Wales (Clint Eastwood)
    2. Tombstone (Kurt Russel & Val Kilmer)
    3. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Clint Eastwood & Lee Van Cleef)
    4. Open Range (Kevin Costner & Robert Duvall)
    5.The Searchers (John Wayne) a bit dated but great story, should have got his oscar for this and not True Grit.

    To be honest there are loads more I could choose.
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    Mon, January 15, 2007 - 4:36 PM
    Beth and I just watched "A Very British Coup" over the last two nights. Very good. It's based on a novel written by a left-wing British Labor MP who fantasized about what might happen if someone like Tony Benn ever became PM (instead of someone like Tony "the poodle" Blair.) The upshot is that the CIA and the British Military stage a "Very British Coup".

    Tonight we're gonna see "Tanner on Tanner" by Robert Altman and Gary Trudeau.
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      Wed, January 17, 2007 - 7:57 AM
      V for vendetta, Donnie Darko, A Scanner Darkly, The Boogeyman, Requiem For A Dream, White Oleander, I love huckabees, Sweet November(chick flick.), City Of Angels(also for women.),Equilibrium, Gladiator, Troy....................cant think of the others..but i reccomend all of the above....
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        Wed, January 17, 2007 - 8:02 AM
        I Heart Huckabees is great. There are really too few movies out there that show the positive side of nihilism!

        And Donnie Darko rocks. There are really too few movies out there that show the positive side of going slowly insane!
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        Wed, January 17, 2007 - 8:09 AM
        hi Ally, you mention A Scanner Darkly...i loved it too. in fact i cried. what do you think of Richard Linklater's other directorial work (did you, for instance, see Waking Life)? and...do you like Philip K. Dick's writing?
        you mention Requiem For A Dream. have you seen Pi? i liked it a lot.
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          Wed, January 17, 2007 - 8:57 AM
          A Scanner Darkly broke my heart, god what a sad story.A cleverly done movie, graphically speaking and the actual facts in the story...etc...nope, i have very unfortunately not seen Waking Life...ouch....have not seen p.i. either, but you can be sure that i will...
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            Sun, March 11, 2007 - 10:22 AM
            I love Pi.

            Of course, I watched it with a bunch of intellectual elitists in a movie marathon that also included:

            Blue Velvet
            U-Turn
            The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover (cinematographically amazing, by the way)
            Mullholland Drive
            Dead Ringers
            Twin Falls Idaho

            It was an interesting time.
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              Sun, March 11, 2007 - 10:31 AM
              i didn't like Mullholland Drive at all, but i enjoyed Blue Velvet and also Eraserhead, his (Lynch's) early midnight movie classic. my friend who i saw it with the first time didn't dig it at all! LOL!
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      Wed, January 17, 2007 - 8:04 AM
      "Tanner on Tanner" was not very entertaining, nor was it particularly interesting. But I love Altman no matter what!
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        Tue, February 20, 2007 - 9:18 AM
        today's Altman's birthday! check this out:

        www.youtube.com/watch
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          Tue, February 27, 2007 - 1:00 PM
          Youtube used to have the clip of Lilly Tomlin and Meryl Streep introducing Robert Altman at the 2006 Oscars. It was a wonderfully funny bit - and a beautiful, heartfelt tribute to him. The fuckers at Youtube removed the clip due to "copyright". Goddamm those corporate suits from Google!!!!!!!!
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            Thu, March 1, 2007 - 5:11 PM
            Holden, you mentioned El Topo, one of my favorite films. Have you seen Holy Mountain?
            If so, what did you think?
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              Thu, March 1, 2007 - 5:15 PM
              You did see it ~ my mistake, sorry!
              There aren't a whole lot of Jodorowsky fans in my neck of the woods, so it's great to run into one!
              I am delighted that his films are becoming more accessible. I have bootlegs of El Topo and Holy Mountain.
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                Thu, March 1, 2007 - 9:39 PM
                actually, Melissa, i've seen El Topo, but not The Holy Mountain...so far! in fact the only other Jodorowsky movie i've seen is Santa Sangre. the good news on the Jodorowsky front: the longstanding legal feud between Jodo and Allen Klein has ended (in fact they're buddies now! weird!) and Abcko Films is releasing *fully legit* DVDs of Jodorowsky's early films. Fando & Lys is already available, and El Topo and The Holy Mountain will follow shortly, if they're not available already.
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                  Fri, March 9, 2007 - 5:17 AM
                  My favorite movies are those that I find "hypnotic". At the top of the list is : -"A Passage to India" -

                  -"The Year of Living Dangerously"

                  -"Maria full of Grace" (that one was more I can't stop watching, which

                  is different from hypnotic somehow)
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                    Fri, March 9, 2007 - 12:16 PM
                    Did you guys see "Lucky Number Slevin?"

                    I don't think it was the greatest film ever made or anything, but I enjoyed it..

                    fun plot stuff...murder mystery, etc.
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                      Fri, March 9, 2007 - 4:56 PM
                      Lucky number Slevin, I realy liked it and guess what? I was in it. Yup, I was an extra when they filmed here in Montreal. It's a street scene, made to look like New York with the yellow cabs. I was supposed to cross the street and walk (along with others) along the sidewalk where the actors were. Anyway, I kept on getting ahead of them, Josh Hartnett and Lucy Liu, I'm a fast walker, and I was walking right into the spotlights. The more I tried to stay out of their way, the more I would be in it, murphy's law indeed. Anyway, I finally got the hang of strolling and checking out the windows of different boutiques. I'm not in the final cut though, sniff... Good movie all the same, that was my anecdote, thank you.
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                        Sat, March 10, 2007 - 7:05 AM
                        funny! and neat story..

                        I was also a movie extra, in this movie with Mariel Hemmingway called Personal Best.

                        Filmed in the summer of 1980, out at the track of the University of Oregon.

                        I was hitchhiking around the country and was in Eugene, heard they were looking for extras to fill the stands.

                        My sneaker and part of my poncho is on camera during the opening monologue...

                        was fun!
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                          Sat, March 10, 2007 - 9:22 AM
                          i've served as an extra in student films repeatedly, but i've yet to SEE even one of them.
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                            Sat, March 10, 2007 - 10:08 AM
                            in very non-glamorous terms...

                            I was also in a punk rock kind of student picture

                            (I played a dog)

                            was fun!
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                              Sat, March 10, 2007 - 3:24 PM
                              I once (and I'm talking 40 years ago!) lived across the street from a guy who claimed to have been an extra in Lon Chaney's Phantom of the Opera when he was a kid!
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                                Sat, March 10, 2007 - 5:26 PM
                                being an extra is a pretty common thing...
                                and if you are interested in doing it...it is pretty easy...

                                especially for films that shoot crowd scenes...that was the movie I was in...they needed a crowd to fill a stadium for a track and field movie...

                                depends what circles you run in. If you run in the circles of people always looking to pick up odd jobs, you run into that kind of opportunity....

                                If you want to be an extra, maybe pick up some of the industry trade magazines, see what they are filming and poke around. I am sure
                                you could find something... might take some legwork, but if you persist, I am pretty sure you could find something...
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                                  Mon, March 12, 2007 - 12:44 AM
                                  just saw Glory Road...

                                  was a light and fun inspirational story (about the basketball coach who broke the (college) color barrier by playing
                                  an entire starting line-up of African-American players)

                                  made me feel good and on the DVD, the special features section had interviews with all the actual players....
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                              Sun, April 15, 2007 - 5:47 AM
                              ...makes me think of a stooges song...
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                                Sun, April 15, 2007 - 9:47 PM
                                <...makes me think of a stooges song... >

                                Dead Man makes you think of a Stooges song? Have you seen it?
                                That's funny because Iggy Pop appears in that film as a cross-dressing mountain man.

                                Dead Man is also one of my favorite films. Although it's got a lot of humor, and some very violent moments, there is something very spiritual about it.

                                I'm always trying to loan that movie to people who haven't seen it- in fact I did so again just last week.
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                  Tue, March 13, 2007 - 2:14 AM
                  Amazon has a Jodorwsky collection coming out May 1:

                  www.amazon.com/Films-Alej...323-9048449

                  I saw El Topo back in the late 70's sometime. As I recall, and this is vague, the first half was incredibly violent, sort of a very bloody spaghetti western, then the main character shaves his head and the rest of the film is less violent but very strange - can't remember more details except the whole film was pretty surreal, and the second part was a relief after the violence of the first part. Hard to find any reference to it or to the director, so good to see it is coming out on DVD.
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    Tue, March 13, 2007 - 2:23 AM
    Has anyone seen Vanilla Sky? I was hesitant to watch it because it stars Tom Cruise, but it turned out to be pretty good. While on the surface it seems to be the story of a spoiled rich young man who gets disfigured in an accident, what is real and what is not keeps getting twisted around, but by the end it comes together with a kind of science fiction plot. On one aspect it reminds me of the movie Jacob's Ladder, on another level it reminded me of Naked Lunch - the kind of movie where if you're not high when you start watching, you feel pretty stoned by the time the movie is over.