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Women stabs herself in the foot with a sword while performing a Wiccan good luck ritual.

2008-07-25T21:05:24Z

I find this just as funny as I would any other religious person who would, could or has done this or anything similar to this -- so have a laugh at the sucky embarrassing things that happen to us all at some point in our life – and often more than one happening of “ahh crap.”

"Gunther said she was performing the ceremony to give thanks for a recent run of good luck."

Maybe saying thank you would have been enough :P

Gunther said was aiming to put the sword in the ground, but hit her foot instead.

"It wasn't the first time I performed the ritual, but it was the first time I put a sword through my foot," she said.

Gunther immediately pulled the sword out of her foot, and her companions took her to Witham Memorial Hospital, where she was kept a couple days for treatment.

No charges were filed, police said.

But the embarrassment of making the national news is punishment in and of itself.

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cinema

2008-07-25T15:51:29Z

Robert Altman died a few days ago! i regard his 1971 movie McCabe & Mrs. Miller as 1 of my 2 favorite Westerns. the other? Alejandro Jodorowsky's movie El Topo.
my 3 favorite movies about visitors from other worlds: Man Facing Southeast, The Brother From Another Planet and The Day The Earth Stood Still.

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TV thread

2008-07-24T17:04:54Z

anyone up for a TV thread.

has anyone seen The War by Ken Burns.

pretty amazing stuff

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discuss your favorite visual art & artists

2008-07-24T16:50:40Z

today's Henri Mattisse's birthday, so:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Matisse

i especially like the paper cut-outs of his late period.

now for something completely different. i always enjoy turning new people on to the late great painter Mati Klarwein, so here's his official website:

www.matiklarweinart.com

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TODAY IN HISTORY!

2008-07-23T05:15:34Z

on this day in 1889 e.v., the world's first jukebox made its debut at the Palais Royale Saloon in San Fransisco.

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MUSIC

2008-07-20T15:57:10Z

today's the birthday of lyricist Ira Gershwin, best known for the many songs he wrote with his brother George. cheers!

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CARTOONING!

2008-07-19T16:20:24Z

today's the birthday of the great Charles Addams, whose characters the Addams Family appeared often in The New Yorker Magazine before becoming the subject of a TV show & movies. see:

www.charlesaddams.com

please use the rest of this thread to discuss cartoonists, cartooning & cartoons both animated & not.

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great quotations

2008-07-15T03:53:49Z

"we're born naked. the rest is drag." - RuPaul

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Court Finds That Trolls Can Remain Anonymous

2008-07-07T18:27:32Z

From TechCrunch: www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/...nonymous/

A California court has found that trolls are protected by the first amendment and are entitled to anonymity. The ruling comes despite previous cases where trolls have been arrested (be it once they have been disclosed) and hearings in other courts.

The court reversed a previous decision that would have allowed Lisa Krinsky, COO of a Florida based drug service SFBC, to subpoena 10 anonymous Yahoo message board trolls, according to Ars Technica.

The 10 trolls posted on Yahoo message boards in 2005 with “scathing verbal attacks” including referring to the management team of SFBC as “a management consisting of boobs, losers and crooks,” and responding to Krinsky with comments such as “I will reciprocate felatoin with Lisa even though she has fat thighs, a fake medical degree, ‘queefs’ and has poor feminine hygiene.”

The court found that although the Internet is still bound by rules about libel, what was posted were not assertions of “actual fact” and not actionable under defamation law, therefore protected under the First Amendment, in sort of the same way parody is.

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what would happen if

2008-07-06T12:10:25Z

I just copy & pasted the same line over and over and over again? What line?

TRIBE SUCKS!

Think I would get kicked off? Hmmmmm tempted

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Silly Fun II

2008-06-30T01:55:26Z

Silly Fun II

for general silly fun....

Patches the Horse

http://gprime.net/video.php/patchesthehorse

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George Carlin has died

2008-06-27T00:57:00Z

...so, first, i propose a moment of silence.......

......................................................................................................................................................................

thank you. now this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PiZSFIVFiU

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Russia's greatest love machine

2008-06-26T04:00:44Z

...now for some silliness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYg

I love this song and feel it is my duty to get it popular again :)

ok, I just miss listening / dancing to it.

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Holidays, official and unofficial

2008-06-20T19:03:38Z

first let me wish everyone a happy Earth Day and a happy 4-20 Day! i present something for Earth Day:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynEQQRSjELg&NR=1

...and i uphold 4-20 Day (for those who don't know, it's an unofficial holiday demanding the legalization of cannabis) because (among other reasons) cannabis is a beneficial plant with many uses, and because laws addressing purely self-regarding matters such as what we may or may not do with our own bodies, and also laws addressing matters of informed consent between social equals, have NO PLACE in any society that claims libertarian-egalitarian values such as i uphold.

please use the rest of this thread to discuss offical or unofficial holidays that have meaning and relevance for you.

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Weigh in... your opinion, that is

2008-06-05T20:56:36Z

Discuss some interesting topics on CreateDebate like these:

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Is_Islam_a_religion_of_violence_or_a_religion_of_peace
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_guns_be_banned_in_America
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Who_is_the_more_entertaining_comedy_news_show_host
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_Marijuana_be_legalized
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Worst_President_Ever_2
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Top_10_most-used_websites
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_reparations_be_paid_for_slavery
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_America_have_Universal_Healthcare
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Are_organic_foods_worth_spending_your_$_on
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_something_be_done_to_avert_the_Peak_Oil_Crisis
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Do_you_trust_the_press
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Outsourcing_of_US_jobs_to_foreign_countries:_Bad_or_Good
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Which_US_political_party_best_represents_Christian_values
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Is_Turkey_Oppressing_its_Citizens
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Was_Bush_right_saying_that_the_Indian_middleclass_people_are_responsible_for_the_inflation
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_abortion_be_legal
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Apples_I-Phone_necessity_or_not

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Funniest Resume Mistakes, Bloopers and Blunders Ever

2008-06-03T11:06:47Z

Source: http://jobmob.co.il/blog/funniest-resume-mistakes/

People write the strangest things on their resumes, sometimes downright hysterical. Why should only recruiting managers get to laugh at these? Enjoy!

JobMob Top 10
1. Application: How large was the department you worked in with your last company? “A: 3 stories.” (Resumania)
2. A resume listed a skill as “being bi-lingual in three languages” (Ask Annie’s)
3. Background: “28 dog years of experience in sales (four human).” (Resumania)
4. In the section that read “Emergency Contact Number” she wrote “911.” (Ask Annie’s)
5. Candidate drew a picture of a car on the outside of the envelope and said it was the hiring manager’s gift. (Careerbuilder.com)
6. Languages: “Fluent in English. Also I have been heard muttering Gibberish in my sleep.” (Resumania)
7. “Directed $25 million anal shipping and receiving operations.” (ResumePower.com)
8. On one of our applications, a girl wrote ” I’m 16, I’m pregnant and I can do anything.” At the same time she turned in her application, her boyfriend handed in his. On his: “Felony for breaking and entering.” (Ask Annie’s)
9. “One candidate included clipart on their resume of two cartoons shaking hands.” (Ask Annie’s)
10. Application: “On the line that asked what “sex” he was, he wrote “occassionally”.” (Ask Annie’s)

From Resume Hell:
1. “Career break in 1999 to renovate my horse”
2. “1990 - 1997: Stewardess - Royal Air Force”
3. Hobbies: “enjoy cooking Chinese and Italians”
4. “Service for old man to check they are still alive or not.”
5. Cleaning skills: “bleaching, pot washing, window cleaning, mopping, e.t.c”
6. “Job involved…counselling clientele on accidental insurance policies available”
7. “2001 summer Voluntary work for taking care of the elderly and vegetable people”
8. “I’m intrested to here more about that. I’m working today in a furniture factory as a drawer”
9. “I am about to enrol on a Business and Finance Degree with the Open University. I feel that this qualification will prove detrimental to me for future success.”
10. “Time is very valuable and it should be always used to achieve optimum results and I believe it should not be played around with”
11. “I belive that weakness is the first level of strength, given the right attitude and driving force. My school advised me to fix my punctuality…”

From Careerbuilder.ca’s 10 Wackiest Resume Blunders:
1. Candidate included a letter from his mother.
2. Candidate stated the ability to persuade people sexually using her words.
3. Candidate wrote résumé as a play - Act 1, Act 2, etc.
4. Candidate included naked picture of himself.

From Amy Joyce on Resume Bloopers:
1. “Skills: Strong Work Ethic, Attention to Detail, Team Player, Self Motivated, Attention to Detail”
2. Woman who sent her résumé and cover letter without deleting someone else’s editing, including such comments as “I don’t think you want to say this about yourself here”

From Ask Annie’s article about resume blunders:
1. “an applicant ghosted a headshot as the background to her resume”
2. Other Interests: “Playing with my two dogs (They actually belong to my wife but I love the dogs more than my wife)”.
3. “One applicant used colored paper and drew glitter designs around the border”
4. Hobbies: “getting drunk everynight down by the water, playing my guitar and smoking pot”
5. Why Interested in Position: “to keep my parole officer from putting back me in jail”
6. A woman had attached a picture of herself in a mini mouse costume
7. Hobbies: “Drugs and girls”.
8. Under “job related skills” - for a web designer - “can function without additional oxygen at 24,000 feet”.
9. My sister-in-law misspelled the word “proofreading” in her skill set.
10. The objective on one recent resume I received stated that the applicant wished to pursue a challenging account executive position with our rival firm.
11. Objective: “career on the Information Supper Highway”
12. Experience: “Stalking, shipping & receiving”
13. “I am great with the pubic.”
14. A candidate listed her e-mail address as pornstardelight@*****.com
15. The applicant listed her name as Alice in the resume but wrote Alyce on the onsite application.
16. One candidate’s electronic resume included links to her homepage, where the pictures were of her in the nude.
17. “…sent out my resume on the back side of a draft of a cover letter to another firm…”
18. “My duties included cleaning the restrooms and seating the customers.”
19. One applicant for a nursing position noted that she didn’t like dealing with blood or needles.
20. Achievements: “Nominated for prom queen”
21. I once received a resume with a head and shoulders picture in the top left of the first page. The picture was of a lion’s head, wearing a coat, shirt, and tie.
22. a resume… was printed on the back of the person’s current employer’s letterhead.
23. One resume that came across my desk stated how the individual had won a contest for building toothpick bridges in middle school.
24. A resume… had several grease stains and a smudge of chocolate on it
25. Hobbies: “Having a good time”

From Careerbuilder.com’s Top 12 Wackiest Resume Blunders:
1. Candidate explained a gap in employment by saying it was because he was getting over the death of his cat for three months.
2. Candidate’s hobbies included sitting on the levee at night watching alligators.
3. Candidate explained an arrest by stating, “We stole a pig, but it was a really small pig.”
4. Candidate included family medical history.

From Mainejobs.com’s Avoid These Resume Bloopers:
1. “nine-page cover letter accompanied by a four-page résumé”
2. “One applicant tried to make an impression by using four different fonts, three ink colors and a variety of highlighting options on her résumé”

From ResumePower.com’s Ten Classic Resume Bloopers:
1. “Revolved customer problems and inquiries.”
2. “Consistently tanked as top sales producer for new accounts.”
3. “Planned new corporate facility at $3 million over budget.”
4. “Seeking a party-time position with potential for advancement.”

From HotJobs’ Real-life Resume Blunders to Avoid:
1. “I often use a laptap.”
2. “Able to say the ABCs backward in under five seconds.”
3. “I am a wedge with a sponge taped to it. My purpose is to wedge myself into someone’s door to absorb as much as possible.”

From Fortune Magazine via HumorMatters.com:
1. “Finished eighth in my class of ten.”
2. “Received a plague for Salesperson of the Year.”
3. “Reason for leaving last job: maturity leave.”
4. “Failed bar exam with relatively high grades.”
5. “Am a perfectionist and rarely if if ever forget details.”
6. “It’s best for employers that I not work with people.”
7. “Let’s meet, so you can ‘ooh’ and ‘aah’ over my experience.”
8. “I have an excellent track record, although I am not a horse.”
9. “You will want me to be Head Honcho in no time.”
10. “I have become completely paranoid, trusting completely no one and absolutely nothing.”
11. “Personal interests: donating blood. Fourteen gallons so far.”
12. “Marital status: often. Children: various.”
13. “I am loyal to my employer at all costs..Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail.”
14. “Instrumental in ruining entire operation for a Midwest chain store.”

From Resumania’s Archive:
1. Job Duties: “Answer phones, file papers, respond to customer e-mails, take odors.”
2. Interests: “Gossiping.”
3. Favorite Activities: “Playing trivia games. I am a repository of worthless knowledge.”
4. Skills: “I can type without looking at thekeyboard.”
5. Employer: ” Myself; received pay raise for high sales.”
6. Objective: “I want to play a major part in watching a company advance.”
7. Experience: “Chapter president, 1887-1992.”
8. Experience: “Demonstrated ability in multi-tasting.”
9. Experience: “I’m a hard worker, etc.”
10. Languages: “Speak English and Spinach.”
11. Reason for leaving: “I thought the world was coming to an end.”
12. Additional skills: “I am a Notary Republic.”
13. Objective: “So one of the main things for me is, as the movie ‘Jerry McGuire’ puts it, ‘Show me the money!’”
14. Skills: “I have integrity so I will not steal office supplies and take them home.”
15. Objective: “To hopefully associate with a millionaire one day.”
16. Skills: “I have technical skills that will take your breath away.”
17. Qualifications: “I have guts, drive, ambition and heart, which is probably more than a lot of the drones that you have working for you.”
18. Objective: “I need money because I have bills to pay and I would like to have a life, go out partying, please my young wife with gifts, and have a menu entrée consisting of more than soup.”
19. Qualifications: “Twin sister has accounting degree.”
20. Experience: “Have not yet been abducted by aliens.”
21. Skills: “Written communication = 3 years; verbal communication = 5 years.”
22. Objective: “I would like to work for a company that is very lax when it comes to tardiness.”
23. Education: “I possess a moderate educatin but willing to learn more.”
24. Education: “Have repeated courses repeatedly.”
25. Salary requirements: “The higher the better.”
26. Salary desired: “Starting over due to recent bankruptcies. Need large bonus when starting job.”
27. Bad traits: “I am very bad about time and don’t mind admitting it. Having to arrive at a certain hour doesn’t make sense to me. What does make sense is that I do the job. Any company that insists upon rigid time schedules will find me a nightmare.”
28. References: “Bill, Tom, Eric. But I don’t know their phone numbers.”
29. Work experience: “Two years as a blackjack and baccarat dealer. Strong emphasis on customer relations - a constant challenge considering how much money people lose and how angry they can get.”
30. Personal: “I limit important relationships to people who want to do what I want them to do.”
31. Objective: “Student today. Vice president tomarrow.”
32. Accomplishments: “Brought in a balloon artist to entertain the team.”
33. Application: Why should an employer hire you? “I bring doughnuts on Friday.”
34. Achievements: “First runner-up for Miss Fort Worth, 1982.”
35. Reason for leaving: “Pushed aside so the vice president’s girlfriend could steal my job.”
36. Special skills: “I’ve got a Ph.D. in human feelings.”
37. Reason for leaving last job: “Bounty hunting was outlawed in my state.”
38. Experience: “Any interruption in employment is due to being unemployed.”
39. Objective: “To become Overlord of the Galaxy!”
40. Objective: “What I’m looking for in a job: #1) Money #2) Money #3) Money.”
41. Hobbies: “Mushroom hunting.”
42. Experience: “Child care provider: Organized activities; prepared lunches and snakes.”
43. Objective: “My dream job would be as a professional baseball player, but since I can’t do that, I’ll settle on being an accountant.”
44. Awards: “National record for eating 45 eggs in two minutes.”
45. Heading on stationery: “I’d Break Mom’s Heart to Work For You!”
46. “I am a ‘neat nut’ with a reputation for being hardnosed. I have no patience for sloppywork, carelessmistakes and theft of companytime.”
47. Experience: “Provide Custer Service.”
48. Experience: “I was brought in as a turnaround consultant to help turn the company around.”
49. Strengths: “Ability to meet deadlines while maintaining composer.”
50. Work experience: “Responsibilities included checking customers out.”
51. Work experience: “Maintained files and reports, did data processing, cashed employees’ paychecks.”
52. Educational background: “Highschool was a incredible experience.”
53. Resume: “A great management team that has patents with its workers.”
54. Cover letter: “Experienced in all faucets of accounting.”
55. Objective: “I am anxious to use my exiting skills.”
56. Personal: “I am loyal and know when to keep my big mouth shut.”
57. Job duties: “Filing, billing, printing and coping.”
58. Application: “Q: In what local areas do you prefer to work? A: Smoking.”
59. Reason for leaving: “Terminated after saying, ‘It would be a blessing to be fired.’”
60. Personal: “My family is willing to relocate. However not to New England (too cold) and not to Southern California (earthquakes). Indianapolis or Chicago would be fine. My youngest prefers Orlando’s proximity to Disney World.”
61. Resume: “I have a lifetime’s worth of technical expertise (I wasn’t born - my mother simply chose ‘eject child’ from the special menu.”
62. Resume: “Spent several years in the United States Navel Reserve.”
63. Qualifications: “I have extensive experience with foreign accents.”
64. “I am fully aware of the king of attention this position requires.”
65. References: “Please do not contact my immediate supervisor at the company. My colleagues will give me a better reference.”
66. “Worked in a consulting office where I carried out my own accountant.”
67. Accomplishments: “My contributions on product launches were based on dreams that I had.”
68. Career: “I have worked with restraints for the past two years.”
69. Experience: “My father is a computer programmer, so I have 15 years of computer experience.”
70. Education: “I have a bachelorette degree in computers.”

This article is part of Litemind’s Lists Group Writing Project.

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Opinions from both sides - Modern dating

2008-05-31T02:05:46Z

From a few brief discussions with other women and only one guy, it seems as here in Austin, TX the femmes ask the bois out. I know this is going to seem really contradictory but ..... even though I am very independent and feminist I'm also old fashioned when it comes to dating. I've only asked a guy out twice in my life. One said yes and the other no (had a girlfriend & didn't know.)

I'm not asking for advice just curious to see opinions from both sides of all ages.

Should we once and for all just say the Hell with it and say either side should feel comfortable asking out the other?

What is the best way for either side to ask out the other?

Guys: Give us gurls some advice to ask out you bois (girls & boys vs gurls & bois: The first never grow up and are irresponsible)

Gurls: Same above question. How do you want to be asked out?

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dildos

2008-05-29T01:56:50Z

how do you find out which dildo is right for without spending money on one first. should i find men with different penis sizes and have them hump me till i find the perfect fit?

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synchronicities

2008-05-15T10:39:37Z

i'll start this thread by reporting 2 recent encounters with the symbol known as the horn of plenty (a horn shaped container filled to overflowing with fruits & vegetables).
!. recently someone uploaded a picture to the image gallery at Alchemy The Royal Art tribe of this symbol, right here on Tribe.net.
2: today i discovered a book about kaliedoscopes in which i found an illustration of a kaliedoscope-like pattern prominently featuring repetitions of the horn of plenty, drawn by a Betty TRIBE.

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This is disturbing....

2008-05-10T05:09:51Z

http://manbabies.com/random

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America Freedom to Fascism

2008-05-09T16:30:37Z

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=

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games, sports, assorted pastimes

2008-05-04T11:32:25Z

i recently acquired a giveaway copy of a computer video game (which i haven't played yet) called A Force More Powerfull: The Game of Nonviolent Strategy. it aims to teach the player about nonviolent strategies for affecting social change. this intrigues me, because most video games are VERY war and violence oriented see:

www.aforcemorepowerful.org

if i REALLY like this thing, i might give copies for Christmas. we'll see.

please use the rest of this thread to discuss games, sports, hobbies or pastimes of ANY kind (competitive or noncompetitive) that you directly engage in. or, if you want to talk about games that you *watch* rather than play directly, that's okay too.

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current reading

2008-04-05T22:24:43Z

i now read 2 things concurrently (i do that a lot): Fortunate Son, an excellent, well researched & very damning biography of George W. Bush by J.H. Hatfield, & also El Topo: The Book of The Film by Alejandro Jodorowsky, a rare, out of print book which i printed out from:

www.subcin.com

so...tell me *your* current reading.

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Shakespeare goes digital (X-post)

2008-03-26T20:01:08Z

Why x-posted? It's Shake-freakin-speare!!!

From Reuters via Yahoo news: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080326/tc_nm/britain_shakespeare_digital_dc

A U.S. and British library plan to reproduce online all 75 editions of William Shakespeare's plays printed in the quarto format before the year 1641.

The Bodleian Library in Oxford and Folger Shakespeare Library in Washington DC have joined forces to download their collections, building on the work of the British Library which digitized its collection of quarto editions in 2004.

In the absence of surviving manuscripts, the quartos -- Shakespeare's earliest printed editions -- offer the closest known evidence of what Shakespeare might actually have written, and what appeared on the early modern English stage.

The project is designed to make all of the quartos, many of which are only accessible to scholars, available to the wider public.

The process of downloading the quartos will begin next month and take a year to complete.

Online visitors will be able to compare images side-by-side, lay one facsimile on top of the other, search plays and mark and tag the texts.

As well as highlighting more minor differences between copies of the same quarto, the digital database will also make it easier to study the often wide discrepancies between quartos, including some of Shakespeare's most famous lines.

"There will be countless new ways for scholars, teachers, and students to examine the quarto texts, particularly of 'Hamlet'," said Folger director Gail Kern Paster.

"You find out all sorts of things -- about how the copies went through the press, and also about the printing process," she added.

Shakespeare wrote at least 37 plays and collaborated on several more between about 1590 and 1613. He died in 1616.

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Chill

2008-03-25T00:34:53Z

I love to chill out to a good ambient piece, especially anything from Brian Eno. And there is so much out there to choose from, ambient, dark ambient, illbient, and psybient. I am listening to Pitch Black, a dub artist duo from New Zealand.
If you were to lock me away for the rest of my life with access to an enormous music library, it would be heaven for me.

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Tribes for Your Amusement, or Lack of Same

2008-03-22T21:08:47Z

Two new tribes:

Easily Amused http://tribes.tribe.net/fabulousrealities

and its companion tribe,

We Are Not Amused http://tribes.tribe.net/notamused

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Neat History Stuff

2008-03-12T15:41:42Z

5200 year old Animation

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/12/animation-discovered.html

++++++++

1800 year old Brain Surgery

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080311/ap_on_sc/greece_ancient_surgery

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which is better

2008-03-11T11:31:13Z

drunken ramblings....

Is it better to live to be 100 doing what you are told without knowing what you are doing

or

is it better to die at fifty doing what you want knowing that it is killing you?

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14 Things That Would Make Life Better

2008-02-21T19:57:34Z

From LiveScience via Yahoo News:

At the top of many personal wish lists you might find a new car or a Caribbean vacation. But scientists have compiled a global wish list of 14 things that would make life better for everyone.

A committee of scientists and engineers gathered by the National Science Foundation met several times over the last year to compile a list of engineering challenges that, if met, would improve how we live. Today they announced their final choices.

"We chose engineering challenges that we feel can, through creativity and commitment, be realistically met, most of them early in this century," said committee chair and former U.S. Secretary of Defense William J. Perry. "Some can be, and should be, achieved as soon as possible."

In no particular order, the resulting wish list is:
Make solar energy affordable Provide energy from fusion Develop carbon sequestration methods Manage the nitrogen cycle Provide access to clean water Restore and improve urban infrastructure Advance health informatics Engineer better medicines Reverse-engineer the brain Prevent nuclear terror Secure cyberspace Enhance virtual reality Advance personalized learning Engineer the tools for scientific discovery

The committee decided not to rank the challenges. The public can vote on which one they think is most important and leave comments at the project Web site, http://www.engineeringchallenges.org/.

The final choices fall into four themes that the panel thinks are essential for humanity to flourish - sustainability, health, reducing vulnerability and joy of living. The committee did not try to include every important challenge, or endorse particular approaches to meeting the goals it named. The goal, said the panel, was not to predict the future, but to identify what needs to be done to make the future better.

"Tremendous advances in quality of life have come from improved technology in areas such as farming and manufacturing," said committee member and Google co-founder Larry Page. "If we focus our effort on the important grand challenges of our age, we can hugely improve the future."

The committee included such experts as geneticist J. Craig Venter, futurist Raymond Kurzweil, Nobel laureate Mario Mol'na, Dean Kamen, inventor of the Segway, as well as a variety of international scientists and engineers.

Through an interactive Web site, the effort received worldwide input from prominent engineers and scientists, as well as from the general public, over a one-year period. The panel's conclusions were reviewed by more than 50 subject-matter experts.

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Entertainment purposes only

2008-02-08T20:39:43Z

As we know, most news services are primarily in the business of making a profit. As such, most of the news they cover is of a very narrow range of topics. Of course in nations that have a free press, news services are free to disregard any and all events they define as "unimportant" -- even events that can have a sizable impact on the people of the world. That's why I think all news shows and other news outlets should present the following disclaimer:

This program (or publication) is being presented for entertainment purposes only. Some information therein may be inaccurate.

If that were the case, hopefully many news consumers will relaize they can't believe everything they see in the news. Or maybe not.

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The natural urge to explore: Is it for real?

2008-02-08T20:35:58Z

I've heard Carl Sagan and other science-types say that humans have a natural urge to explore. Yet the state of human space exploration is getting worse and worse. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that SOME humans have a natural urge to explore. Most humans seems to prefer to stay in one place.

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Political correctness IS NOT maditory

2008-02-08T20:33:34Z

Political correctness IS NOT maditory. It is merely one of many traditions. And in free nations, traditions are optional and never mandatory. For example, if you prefer to use the term "Merry Christmas", you have the right to use that term. But if you prefer to use the term "Happy Holiday" instead, you can use that term as well. That very simple explanation should solve everything. But I suspect it won't. Because in this Twilight Zone dimension we happen to live in, too many people believe that traditions are mandatory -- with the exception of the traditions they don't like. But whatever te case, I plan on living my life my way on my terms -- whether it's politically correct or not!

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Lack of artistic talent as a mental disorder

2008-02-08T20:28:42Z

I tend to look at pscychology as being mostly malarkey. Not 100 percent malarkey, but maybe 90 percent malarkey. One reason for that is what I perceive to be the very arbitrary way mental disorders are determined. On second thought, maybe it's not that arbitrary. I've also noticed that unpopular behaviors are often defined as mental disorders. And if that unpopular behavior becomes popular, it is no longer defined as a mental illness. For example, homosexuality. Therefore if we lived in a world where the majority of people had artisiic talent, it is possible that the minority who don't have such talent might be labeled as having a mental disorder. Personally, I DON'T think lacking artistic talent is a mental disorder. Because ,among other things, I once drew a comic book using my left hand (I'm right-handed) and then I found out why most people can't draw. Drawing is hard as hell to do!

Anyway, the fact (or my perception of it) remains that unpopular ideas are often defined as mental disorders. And yes, I know that some unpopular ideas are better off remaining unpopular. But still, as I often say about such things, it doesn't have to be that way.

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Cinema Spin-off Topic: A Double Feature & a Short

2008-02-08T20:14:40Z

chain commercial moviehouses don't normally show double features anymore, though this used to be standard practice decades ago. at one time, one could go to the theatre on any weekend & see a double feature & a short. what 2 feature (or featurette) length movies would you like to see together, along with what short? to answer my own question: The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari with Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome, with the 6 minute short Puce Moment between those 2.

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leap of faith

2008-02-06T10:28:21Z

i've had some terrible luck with them, but i'm about to venture on another one.
my instincts are apparently dyslexic, or have add, because i frequently leap when i should squat, sink when i should swim, rarely do i feel like 'aha' .
this time it's moving, and my instincts are reading at nervous or anxious, but with the inaccuracy of my instincts who knows how this venture will end up.
what is the general consensus on a leap of faith?
if it's a leap, are you trying to go against your path, perhaps asking for trouble?
are you finally getting a clue as far as the big picture and trying to open yourself to it?
is it just all in your head and it's just your spidey senses are off because there are too many villians to avoid or face just one?

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cinema spin-off topic #2: movies you've enjoyed online for free

2008-02-06T10:26:47Z

Alphaville
The Little Shop of Horrors
The Seventh Seal
Dreams That Money Can Buy (LOVED this one! highly recommended.)
Magical Mystery Tour
The U.S. versus John Lennon

...those are the feature length movies i've seen online that i really like, plus i've of course seen any number of shorts online. a few helpfull tips...if you want to see if a feature length movie is online for your viewing pleasure, try Google Video first, and AVOID Youtube, which is only good for shorts, because Youtube vids can only come to about 10 minutes max, therefor longer film and video has to get broken into segments. also, there's a wonderfull website called UbuWeb which has a section of film and video - all older public domain stuff, with an emphasis on the avantegarde, experimental and independent. you can also find some real goodies on a site called Subterranean Cinema (subcin.com)...see if they still have a really funny cartoon with voices by the great Lenny Bruce.

okay...now you tell me what movies you've enjoyed online for free!

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For your enjoyment -- make fun of me :P

2008-02-05T21:00:19Z

I'm starving but I won't be eating for anther couple of hours. it's not that I don't have any food available. On the contrary I have a pound of broiled crawfish in my car-- that I will not be eating.

The only placed to eat within a mile was two stores next to each other. One was a connivance store and offered a delicious selection of Deep fried gizzards, deep fried mystery meat that sorta looked like a turkey thigh but was bigger, deep fried pig's tail and deep fried egg (or something) rolls – I took 2 rolls to go.

I knew this wasn't going to be enough so I went next door with the thought of ' when in Rome, do as Romans.' I saw a nice big red and white sign that said Boiled Crawfish. Well that was one of the things I said I would have when I was in Louisiana so I ordered the minimum quality of one pound of boiled crawfish. The girl behind the home made makeshift counter giggled and I couldn't blame her. I have no doubt that this girl was laughing at her thoughts that were probably along the lines of “does this chick have any clue what she is ordering?” The answer to that was an obvious no.

I didn't open the bag until I got back to the library. My thoughts were I would sit at the park bench and have myself a nice Louisiana lunch of crawfish. Until I opened and look into the bag.

Everything is included and dis-assembly is required in eating crawfish. I got back online and Imed my boss who is a southerner and asked him how do I eat crawfish?

“you take the head off and the meat should fall right out, make sure it's cooked.”
{GULP}.

Take the head off!?
Make sure it's cooked?

How the Hell am I to know if it is NOT cooked when I try to tear the head off and it says “watch it bitch!”

I could barely even look in the bag and I'm supposed to reach in and grab one? You look at the picture and tell me if you could tear the head off and slurp it on down.... yuck!

You may now start with the Californian jokes.

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your favorite books & authors

2007-12-17T00:52:57Z

today's the birthday of cartoonist & writer James Thurber, who wrote My Life & Hard Times, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, & other enduring works. i especially like My Life & Hard Times.
since, in the "today in history" thread, i've started to mention books & authors, i've decided to give that topic its own thread.

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work (employer) proposal

2007-12-06T02:03:11Z

Has anyone written a work (employer) proposal asking your company to work virtually? I’m stuck at how it can benefit them.

i.e

by traveling I can xxxx for the company

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Kurt Vonnegut - November 11, 1922–April 11, 2007

2007-11-12T04:02:16Z

Kurt Vonnegut died yesterday:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html?ex=1334030400&en=5f47f4f4c3376a1f&ei=5089&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss

"Many years ago, I was so innocent I still considered it possible that we could become the humane and reasonable America so many members of my generation used to dream of. We dreamed of such an America during the Great Depression, when there were no jobs. And then we fought and often died for that dream during the Second World War, when there was no peace.

But I know now that there is not a chance in hell of America’s becoming humane and reasonable. Because power corrupts us, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Human beings are chimpanzees who get crazy drunk on power. By saying that our leaders are power-drunk chimpanzees, am I in danger of wrecking the morale of our soldiers fighting and dying in the Middle East? Their morale, like so many bodies, is already shot to pieces. They are being treated, as I never was, like toys a rich kid got for Christmas."

May 10, 2004

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What Time Is It?

2007-10-21T20:18:30Z

Ever since I was a little kid I've used the phone number 853-1212 to find out what the right time is. Recently I dialed that number to get all my clocks and watches correctly coordinated, and instead got a message that the correct time service had been discontinued. I am very unsettled by this- I've always taken for granted that there was a way I could find out the correct time so long as I had access to the telephone.

Has anyone else been thrown into a state of shock upon realizing that you can no longer "call time"?

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Weird Science

2007-10-13T15:42:35Z

Atmospheric Wave Over Iowa

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/11oct_undularbore.htm

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JOKES

2007-10-01T16:24:22Z

how do you tell if elephants have had an orgy in your back yard? missing trash can liners.

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PANTOMIME

2007-09-24T12:04:57Z

i wnated to start this thread for discussion of pantomime in honor of the great Marcel Marceau, who died yesterday at the age of 84. he was undoubtedly a major figure, having revived the art of mime and taught or influenced a wide range of performing artists including many who are not primarily considered mimes. i'd like to continue talking and sharing about this but i have to go to lunch. more later!...

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does anyone else get wieid mail from people in their "other" mail?

2007-09-13T15:55:24Z

spam.

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Funny Hats on CSPAN

2007-08-02T15:56:34Z

I'm watching the Pat Tillman hearings on Cspan tonight while I poke around and look at stuff on Tribe. There are two women sitting back in the gallery who are sometimes visible to the camera depending on who is speaking. They both have funny home-made hats on that look like crowns or tiaras, appear to be made of cardboard or paper mache, and are colored bright hot pink. One has the word "TRUTH" scrawled across the front, and the other says "JUSTICE".

People don't usually do offbeat stuff like that on Cspan, so I think it's worth mentioning. If anyone else notices people in the media goofing inappropriately, or creating a mini-spectacle for some reason, maybe we could keep track of those instances here... if anyone else is interested, that is.

Oh... I also notice that one of these ladies is wearing large pink earrings to match the hat- very nice!

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WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR BIGGEST EMOTIONAL CHALLENGE?

2007-07-30T05:52:21Z

Lets get our teeth into something here and learn a little about each other.
Holden has provided a site, lets get to using it.
Ok my biggest emotional challange, well there are two.
the first at 21 when i lost my 3 year old son.
this next one is still ongoing.
To see and change the perceptions that cause all the emotional pain in life.
This at the moment is the Biggie, had to face the responsibility that I me, wendy, was responsible for all my emotions, someone didnt make me .... anything!
so this is the ongoing emotional challange.
What is your biggie?
blessings xxxxxxxxxx
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what a character!!

2007-07-30T03:37:43Z

If you could bring one romantic literary character to life and meet them, who would you pick?

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dream thread

2007-07-02T13:58:28Z

early this morning i had a dream of coming home & finding a key already stuck in the entrance door...i come in, go to my bedroom & find i have 2 closets (in waking life i only have 1). one of these closets has things in it that aren't mine. i also become aware that one of the neighbor's cats has gotten in. then suddenly i realize that this is a dream when i remember that i actually only have one closet.

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open to new experiences

2007-06-11T20:19:19Z

I thought I was open to new experiences, and then I moved to Wisconsin. There are so things I find myself desperately resistant to. I promised myself I would get a passport within the next year, but I don't want to be the typical american trying to get a happy meal in some remote village in scotland. I don't want to go to pass judgement on how the values of antother culture are "wrong", rather to learn from them. How do you prepare yourself to venture into foreign territory with an open mind?

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geothermal power

2007-05-20T22:15:10Z

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_power
http://geothermal.marin.org/pwrheat.html
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/powerplants.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15749933/

http://www.cogeneration.net/geothermal_powerplants.htm
http://www.geo-energy.org/aboutGE/powerPlantCost.asp
http://www.animatedsoftware.com/environm/onofre/2003/geothermal_discussion20031205.htm

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/geopower_landuse.html
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/pdfs/conversion.pdf

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tic tock tao

2007-05-20T09:16:06Z

Get eight freinds together and try it.
If you practice only a few hours, you should start having at the very least an awesome choral group. And if you go on for a while, you should start making transitions into Theta states of consciousness.

This is called Glossolia. It is a reconstruction based on an intrinsic understanding of several key principles about how mind works. I won't try to explain why it works, I will just tell you that it does.

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:27 PM 2 out of 31

The internal dialogue structure of Theta States of consciousness is harmonic-
musical. We know this as people often experience "hearing a chorus of Angels"
when a Theta condition is induced.

Drumbeats at the same cycles per second as a given state are powerful cues
that can help us to enter altered states of consciousness.

The following is a methodology for entering Theta states of consciousness, designed
by yours truly.

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:28 PM 3 out of 31

Trybl Vortx Part Two, The Prequal.

Drummers Parlance.

In theory, the Trybl Vortx system by itself should work fine. It is an absolute
description of the variables involved, and a total solution. In practice,
singing like angels is too hard. The requisite skill, or understanding involved
is too far removed from human experience.

Thus, we have "Drummers Parlance", Both a pre-quel game, and a description of a
very specific form of communication.
Drummer's parlance is simply the communication verbally of a pattern or
patterns, which can then receive tonal or musical counterparts. Drummers'
parlance in the strictest sense is non-tonal, or rhythm only. Sounds are
representations of various durations of time.

The duration of time covered by a "A" is a .1 amount of time. The duration of a
"Ta" is.2 duration of time. The duration of a "Ka, or a "Te" is also a .2
representation of time. Then a "Toom" is a .3 duration of time. These
definitions can be stretched, but the general idea is there.

Then, those kinds of syllables are arranged to count time in pattern. The
pattern repeats, and that is what gives us a "Full measure" of time.

For instance:

Tecka Tecka Toom Toom Te Ka Toom Ta La Toom Teck Teck Ta Ta

Tecka Toooma Tecka Ta Te Ka Ta Tooma la Teck Toom Teck la

Ta Tecka Ta Toom Ta Ta Ta La Tecka Tecka Ta Tooma Ta Ta Ta

Toooma Toooma Ta Ta Ta Toom Ta Toom Ta La La Ta Tooma Ta La

Elata Ta Lata Eee La Ta Ee Lata Tooma Ala La Ee La Tecka Tecka

Tee Tooma Tee Tooma Ta Ta Tecka Tooma Elata Tao Teck Toom Tecka Tao

Ticka Ticka Tock Tao Ticka Tooma Tock Toom

Tick Tock Tao Tao Ticka Tao Tecka

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:30 PM 4 out of 31

This gets us to 29. I am going to go with the idea that you get my point before
I count to a thousand.
The point is that we have now created 100 "phrases" if we count that high, which
are one or two beats long. The Lengths of the various beats is variable and is
the most interesting part of all of this. If we say that it all just goes from 1
to ten, then Tao-Aum is 13 counts. Rhythms we feel comfortable with are at their
simplest 3 beats long. The heartbeat is Ta-silence-Doom. More complex rhythms go
up into the 20 beat range but not much higher. Any set pattern should repeat
within 20 beats or the human mind won't be able to comprehend it.
Tecka Tecka Toom Toom is six beats, and in the time of the second exploration,
4,1,4,1,5,5 counts long. 20 counts. A pattern at 23 beats;
Tecka Tecka Toom Toom Elati Tati Toom Toom Tecka Tecka Elati Tati Toom.

With a count of 4,1,4,1,5,5,2,1,2,2,2,2,5,5,4,1,4,1,1,2,2,5 for sub- total of
10, 10,11,10,10,10. And a total of 61 counts.

So the point of all of this is to get a mental picture of what is possible for
different kinds of rhythm patterns.
The Idea of drummers parlance is that I should be able to say to a drummer,
"Give me: Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati Toom Tao" And have them go, "Give
that to me three times." And I Go "Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati Toom Tao
Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati Toom Tao Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati
Toom Tao Tecka Tecka Toom Toom, Elati Tati Toom Tao" And Then They are doing it
with me, and it sounds good, because we are both in the same pattern.
Then, I can play my flute inside of the pattern of the drummer, and the next
thing you know, we sound like a rocking duet.

That's only part one of Drummers parlance and it's the most interesting half.
The other half is even more annoying and more like an exercise but it really
works.
This other half is basically as simple as "counting time."

123123123123123123123123123123123
123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123
12341234123412341234123412341234
1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,
12345, 12345,12345,
12,1234,123,123,1234,
123,12,123,1234, 12,
And so forth on and on into infinity.

By learning Drummers Parlance, we are learning to think in the kinds of patterns
that we have to use later on in Tick Tock Tao.

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:31 PM 5 out of 31

The rest becomes a question of what you are trying to express. The answer is of
course that you are trying to express an emotion, which is really just a state
of consciousness. Realizing this, we are looking at 4 states of consciousness,
and realizing that certain tempos, beats, and tones describe each of these
states. Thus, music can be created specifically to harmonize the individual into
a given state of consciousness.
(But this hasn't been done as far as I know yet, only frauds have tried it,
people who had no real understanding of states of consciousness, or not enough
skill.)

Where do we go from here? We start a pattern, and we show how any such pattern
evolves musically and harmonically, how slow beats have within them the seeds of
faster beats and how fast beats are tied to slower beats. Using the eight roles,
any given pattern can become a total song.

The entire process is in a sense best accomplished in a large group of people.
The 4 track is a great tool, but we don't have 20 earphones and 20 plug-ins for
those earphones for 20 people to participate in recording. So we get the people
singing first, and then once we are really rocking we make our first sample
recording. Then, if we want to, we take that to the 4 track and add in whatever
we want to. Since we don't have 20 people, the best thing to do is to go with as
many as we can get.
The main thing is that everybody has to do his or her homework. They have to get
a real sense of what we are doing away from it all. They have to actually read
the form. Otherwise it's just playing around. The other thing is we have to have
an understanding that we approach things from a very serious level at first.
Sure it leads into fun, but without focus it disintegrates into noise.
I'd love to be able to hang out for 60 years and play with everybody, but I
can't afford to. What has to happen instead is people have to take responsibly
and seriously the information I am giving them for 30 minutes at a time a few
times a week, and then in a week or two it will be the Angelic Choir.
And then we can release the forms and the structure as just a tool that got us
to the place of being able to play at a more sophisticated level.

Thank you for your time and energy. May peace love and light win within us all.
PrometheusPAN

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:32 PM 6 out of 31

>TRYBL VORTX (Part One)
Tick Tock Tao
Is a specific form for improvisational singing with a group of people. Using
this structure, We move from simple to complex, with each individual adding
another level of complexity. By attuning very specifically to the pattern as it
all ready exists, we evolve the pattern without loosing each other. Thus we can
be together as long as we use the structure.

The Idea here is that we have modeled the timing and harmonics relationships
that naturally exist with each other, and come up with "parts" or "roles" that
reflect these relationships. Then, we model the natural evolutionary path of a
pattern, as it moves from complexity to simplicity, and we find that in essence,
these roles have an order to them in terms of who follows who and what follows
what.

In reality Tick Tock Tao is thus nothing new. It is simply a way of organizing
things that are well understood all ready. When we look at Tribal cultures all
over the world (or what is left of them after being effected by the global
hive... We find that they have very specific formats for social interaction in
different states of consciousness. Whereas we, the global hive, have protocols
structure or format for existing in only one state of consciousness.

The words "Tick Tock Tao" are culled from inside of a trance space. The entire
sequence was at one time used as a trance cue to enter a specific state of
consciousness. The meaning of the words is as follows. Tick refers to time.
Visualize a clock. Music is all about time and timing relationships. Rhythm is
in a sense just various ways of counting time.
Tock has a double meaning, including Talk. Talking, communicating. Tick Tock Tao
is a way of learning to communicate musically, rather than a way of creating
entertainment. We try to treat music from the very different perspective of the
shaman. We have two hemispheres in our brain, and one side is verbal while the
other is musical. The fact of our attunement to pitch and the ability of our
voices to sing indicates that at one point in time in human history, we sang to
each other as a form of communication
I have taken this presupposition one step further, and have tried to understand
how music can be used as a genuine shamans tool for facilitating altered states
of consciousness. Specifically, in Theta states of consciousness, Those states
associated with spiritual experience and perception of subtle levels of reality,
we can expect the human animal to have communicated musically, rather than
phonetically. The reason is simple and is about personal experience.
In Deep Theta states, the energy of the electrical impulses in the brain comes
into phase. Millions of signals that in Beta states of consciousness are just
going off in their own way in their own time and their own direction all
suddenly come together "in phase" or in harmony. The hum that is experienced is
audible to the ear, as the electrical output of the brain no longer scatters
itself in patterns of interference but amplifies itself in patterns of sustained
harmony.

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:33 PM 7 out of 31

Tao refers to the idea that we are indeed changing our state of consciousness
through the use of this exercise. Specifically, we are moving from the yang
waking state to the yin waking state. Thus, the Tao of consciousness is
spinning.

The entire poem:
"Tick Talk Tao" said the Druid to the Drow,
"Be here now and keep your vow to remember.
Do you remember, before you were born?
Leaping through the barley and dancing in the corn?"

"Tick Tock Tao" Said the Faery in the Tree
To the Cave monk sentinel of the cave monk Key
"It's the birds and the bees and the omens I see
That opens the portal of perception to me.

(The poem is an instruction for the ego wall to disintegrate allowing the memory
of pre-mortal existence to come into consciousness.)

Drummers Parlance
Tick, Tock, Ti, Ta, Tia, Ticka, Tocka, Toom, Tooma, are all sounds that are used
in verbal communications of drummers' patterns. This is called "Drummers
Parlance" and is a reality model that was presented to me by a master drummer.
The drumming in the community in which I was operating vastly improved as he
introduced the idea to us.

The Essential Idea
The idea is simple. We can communicate the drum patterns verbally and
phonetically. If we can't do that, we shouldn't be drumming. (At least according
to him.)
The reason is that verbal and phonetic communication proves that understanding
exists about pattern. Otherwise there isn't necessarily and in fact true
understanding. Most drum circles are very chaotic and a-synchronized to the
trained ear.

Instructions
In Tick Tock Tao, there are eight roles. The roles are organized into "Alpha"
and "Beta." Which means "Leader" and "follower." (To some degree. As you will
see, the relationship between Alpha and Beta oftentimes gives the Beta more
freedom and more responsibility too.) The role types are Aummer, Drummer,
Singer, and Whisperer.
These roles represent the natural evolution of pattern. We go from tone, to
rhythm, to song, and out away from order into chaos. Thus, the Aummers start,
and are given time to warm up, then the Drummers Start, and are given time to
warm up, then the singers start, and are given time to warm up, and then the
whisperers start. Nobody is really waiting for them, at least not until level
two.
The Whisperers have a special role. They perform slowly the evolutionary path
of all three other types of roles. When they finish, if the groove is still
going, the Aummers become Whisperers. They get to drum, and then sing, adding
their own parts to the more
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prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:35 PM 8 out of 31

complex pattern. Once the Aummers have been singing for a while, The drummers
should feel free to sing also.
In this way, the pattern evolves into complexity.
On the other hand, especially while we are learning how to do Tick Tock Tao,
what will often happen is that the pattern will start to break apart. The
Whisperers are the pattern police. If the pattern starts to fly apart, their job
is to make sure that it flies apart completly, blows itself open wide, and thus,
the energy is released.
Even really rocking grooves must eventually come to an end, and it is the
whisperers job to raise the energy out into chaos and celebration. That way a
new groove can start.

I have written role cards to make this very easy. Each person receives a role
card. (If there are more than eight people, buddy up with the person next to
you, unless that person is a singer, in which case, play drummers.)

Tick Tock Tao in the most formal sense does things the hard way by going from
toning to rhythm. It may be easier to start out with a simple pattern of some
kind.

Alpha Aummer
Everything begins with you. You breathe deep and hold a base tone.
For three full breaths, The Beta Aummer matches you. The Beta Aummer Tones the
same tone exactly, and covers you while you breathe. Then The Beta Aummer picks
a new tone, and the two of you take turns. When the drumming starts, you will
begin oscillating between the first tone and the second tone, for the duration
of a full measure. For instance, the drummer will say
"Ticka Ticka tocka teck toom tock
doon" The drummer will do this over and over, and you will tone for the duration
of that pattern a single tone and then another single tone, back and forth. As
things evolve, you can bring in more single tones for the full measure of that
pattern. Eventually, once the singers are really going, you can chop the pattern
into smaller chunks and tone for the duration of those.
Your part may be boring for you, but remember, you are helping everyone else
keep time.
In level two of the game, you will pass your card on and receive a new card, and
a new role. Maintain your old role until you fully understand your new role.
Then switch roles.
Remember to listen to the tone the Beta Aummer gives you, and try to take turns
breathing and toning with them. (Take your breathe on a given beat.)

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:38 PM 9 out of 31

Alpha Aummer
Everything begins with you. You breathe deep and hold a base tone.
For three full breaths, The Beta Aummer matches you. The Beta Aummer Tones the
same tone exactly, and covers you while you breathe. Then The Beta Aummer picks
a new tone, and the two of you take turns. When the drumming starts, you will
begin oscillating between the first tone and the second tone, for the duration
of a full measure. For instance, the drummer will say
"Ticka Ticka tocka teck toom tock
doon" The drummer will do this over and over, and you will tone for the duration
of that pattern a single tone and then another single tone, back and forth. As
things evolve, you can bring in more single tones for the full measure of that
pattern. Eventually, once the singers are really going, you can chop the pattern
into smaller chunks and tone for the duration of those.
Your part may be boring for you, but remember, you are helping everyone else
keep time.
In level two of the game, you will pass your card on and receive a new card, and
a new role. Maintain your old role until you fully understand your new role.
Then switch roles.
Remember to listen to the tone the Beta Aummer gives you, and try to take turns
breathing and toning with them. (Take your breathe on a given beat.)

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:39 PM 10 out of 31

Alpha Singer
You listen to the Alpha Drummer, whose pattern is slower than the beta drummer.
You listen to the tones created by the Aummers. You Mimic the Alpha drummer
until you are sure you have the pattern. Then, you begin to add tones. Your
first tone should be the same as the alpha Aummers, and your last tone should be
the same as the beta Aummer. Next, you fill in that rhythm with tones. You
create a song that becomes the master tonal pattern. If level two is achieved,
your choices become the
Underlying pattern that everyone else follows in the creation of song.
Remember that you are listening to two elements and blending them. You are
listening to the rhythm first, to pick it up, and then to the tones the Aummers
are using, so that it all stays in harmony and key.
Synthesizing these two levels is the hardest job in Tick Tock Tao and one that
it can't work without. If you end up feeling overwhelmed by the task,
Switch roles with somebody else.
The difficulty of this job is made easier in that your song is with the slow
beat, not the fast one. This is very key to your success. Pay attention only to
the Alpha Drummer,
Not the Beta Drummer. Beta Singer
You listen to the Alpha Singer. They will be singing a slow song. You mimic
their song until you are certain that you have it. You will notice that they are
in beat with the alpha drummer and in tone with the Aummers. Put your attention
next on the Beta Drummer, who is your pal. They are doing a beat that is faster
than the Alpha Drummer. Separating yourself now psychologically from the alphas,
follow the same pattern you have but bring more beats into it and evolve it so
that it is in time with the faster tempo.
This skill is all about taking the singing pattern and adding "flams" and
"perks' to it. If the long pattern is going "Teck Tooma" while the fast pattern
is going "Elata Ladoonta"
Then you are simply adding two syllables. Maybe its "TaTaTa Tooma
Tecka Tooma" for the fast pattern. Now you are essentially multiplying two by
three, three syllables for each of the main two.
Each Of the Alpha singers tones becomes the base note in a chord.
You are filling in the rest of the notes to form a whole chord.

As a Whisperer you mimic the Aummers. This is your chief job, but of all the
jobs, your job changes the most. If the pattern makes it to a full on groove,
with the beta singer completely in for a while, you go ahead and begin to evolve
along the path. Spending

prometheuspan
4/19/2001 4:43 PM 11 out of 31

If you are paying attention you will have questions about things that got accidentally cut, and then I will be motivated to explain a bit more.
If not, I'd be wasteing my time...

This all appliesto telepathy rather directly, as the art of MIMICKRY that you have to employ, of listening to the group, of not letting your ego interere, but rather, giving over to the true center, these are all the same skills you need for telepathy.

Further, if you attain theta this way, in a social environment, two things will happen.
1. You will be able to hear the angelic choir
2. You will have limited telepathy with the people you are doing it with.

Good luck.
If ANYBODY actually takes me seriously and does it, you could have profound
results in only the next few hours.

I have for myself eight cards, on which I have the eight roles written down.

Thats a great way to go, as then you can switch roles without even talking about it.

DJ43
4/20/2001 11:40 AM 12 out of 31

I take you quite seriously, and I am going to have to print these posts out so that I have them permanently.
However, it will be days before I can attempt to do the actual process, not a few hours, sorry.
Thank you for so much detail.
One question, just so I am clear, I need to be sure to gather seven people together, or may it be a number less than eight including myself?
Respectfully,
Denise

Prometheuspan
4/20/2001 9:34 PM 13 out of 31

There are eight roles in the game as described, I think about four is the bare essential absolute minimum. There is no real maximum, but you will ahve to work out organizing it yourself.

You can easilly have two or three people fill each role.
Group them together of course, and make sure they follow each other.

Best of luck!!

And thank you so very much for getting to it at all!!

The real take off for this area will be the results you achieve.
two more weeks for the area and counting...

iammeinabody
4/21/2001 3:30 PM 14 out of 31

Thanks for the info. It clarified some experiances and gives me something to work on. I'm having a great time trying to keep up on all this. Now I just need to expand time so to include practice. K

prometheuspan
4/21/2001 3:52 PM 15 out of 31

yes, but does anybody have any questions?

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72 hr kits and food storeage

2007-05-13T04:59:38Z

Anybody got themselves prepared for disaster? I was just talking to someone who lectures on this subject. The storm we just had (for me, 19 hours w/o power, flood, downed fences for livestock) was like a punctuation to her talks. I'm not prepared for much at all, it seems.

Things I'm considering purchasing:
chemical toilet (our pump runs on electricity)
BBQ briquettes. Even tho we use propane, the 3 tanks are almost never all full.
Glass root beer jugs for more water storeage.
Rigging the house for more easy plug in to generator.
another fuel jug for generator
food for the purpose of emergency only

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